Real talk. The last truly great superhero movie I remember seeing was The Dark Knight, and that's not even Marvel.
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I find Marvel movies to be vastly mediocre. Why do they keep breaking records?
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Marvel movies offer a consistent level of quality. When you go see one you can be confident that you're seeing a pretty good movie even if it isn't amazing. Generally speaking they're always among the top blockbusters each year.
People want superheroes to save them because we had a recession and the entire generation has student loan debt.
I really like them, but I thinks it's enough now. Move on to something new. Yeah I know they won't as long as they are successful.
There is some nice plotting and decent one-liners. The ambition is cool too. That said, it's all really same-y in tone and super forgettable. Enjoyably bland.
simple. never really challenging the mind. big explosions. lots of marketing. large pool of recognized characters that are sort of ingrained in the populace.
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Because they're great quality entertainment, and the furthest thing from mediocre.
You want mediocre, go watch the new Godzilla movie.
I would have said that before seeing Spider-Man yesterday. Now I'm 100% back on board for Phase 4.
You want mediocre, go watch the new Godzilla movie.
I would have said that before seeing Spider-Man yesterday. Now I'm 100% back on board for Phase 4.
This too. While I do think Marvel does a great job in a lot of areas that earns their success, so I don't agree that this is a perfect analogy, there's this constant fallacy among people that if something is successful, it must be an indicator of some objective quality. Which is almost never the case.
IMO, the most successful products of any industry tend to be the most accessible.
Because they're fun and a lot of people who aren't you like them. Not much more to it than that, really.
I feel like it's telling this is the only post you've replied to.
I mean, the same criticism could honestly be thrown at most of the highest selling musicians, food, consumer products in general. Most people don't want challenging or paradigm shattering things, they want easy good times (most of the time).
Why are they super popular? They are excellent at what they do. It's not easy to make blockbuster films, and that they've pulled off 20+ connected films is a huge acheivement even if you're not into them.
Why are they super popular? They are excellent at what they do. It's not easy to make blockbuster films, and that they've pulled off 20+ connected films is a huge acheivement even if you're not into them.
I didn't even know Spider-Man released, lol. I guess I will keep up with them when they are cheap on Prime.
Because, quite frankly, in an ocean filled of people that do like these movies, your opinion is like a drop in said ocean. Honestly what more do you want us to say? People like comic book and superhero movies, and they like it even more if their superheroes feature in the same movies as an ensemble. It's not exactly rocket science. I doubt people consider them pinnacle of film making, but they've proven for over a decade now that they're a lot of fun to a lot of people.
the immediate backlash toward anybody expressing distaste for the big zeitgeist franchise stifles any sort of more serious critique or analysis of these films. I don't care for them myself, and I think there is a discussion to be had about their tremendous box office success and resonance with the public, but it's just not worth it when you're immediately gonna get the old man yells at cloud treatment. sorry I don't like the thing I guess?
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They're not breaking quality records. They're accessible movies that require little effort to watch and that have a modicum of quality. Also the interconnectivity of the movies and the fact that they span years of your life is obviously made to make them feel like they're a part of your life.
The people who watch these movies are not the kind that would see for example Son of Saul, Mustang or something like that and actually notice the extreme levels of quality of those movies. It's just not their thing.
Popularity is never an endorsement!!
The people who watch these movies are not the kind that would see for example Son of Saul, Mustang or something like that and actually notice the extreme levels of quality of those movies. It's just not their thing.
Popularity is never an endorsement!!
This whole thread is gonna bring out the trolls and elitists. It's perfect bait for them
Yeah, I'm sure you were really looking for elucidation and not just generic confirmation.
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It's definitely an impressive achievement. That they're accessible to basically everyone regardless of age is why I personally think they're so successful. Not much to do with quality.
It's a known quantity. The most average, popcorn entertainment money can buy every single time. It's perfect for groups of people and it hits across every demographic really.
It's mediocrity down to a science. It makes perfect sense that they consistently do well at the BO honestly.
It's mediocrity down to a science. It makes perfect sense that they consistently do well at the BO honestly.
lmao you really wanted to take it down the junk-food cinema path, didn't you?
They're entertaining and easy to watch, I'm not sure why that's so hard to grasp. I'm not a huge fan of the films but if you can't see how strong their branding and characters are, then you need to look harder. Not to mention Marvel are pretty much the first studio to nail a cinematic universe. Which means with each film somebody watches, they're deeper in to the lore of the world which creates a snowball effect when it comes to finale films such as Infinity War and Endgame breaking records.
It's the weekly elitist trash marvel/pop movie circle jerk thread. Let them have their fun
The Dark Knight is a dumb movie propped up by a great performance.
The MCU movies, especially recently, are solid at worst. They have great, relatable characters and they've been hugely successful with long-formstorytelling. We also live in a hellscape and people like escapism. It's not hard to understand.
The MCU movies, especially recently, are solid at worst. They have great, relatable characters and they've been hugely successful with long-formstorytelling. We also live in a hellscape and people like escapism. It's not hard to understand.
they're very family friendly humorous movies made for wide audiences, good enough to make people care about the gimmick of heroes teaming up together.
the stellar cast helps a lot too
the stellar cast helps a lot too
So sick and tired of this opinion. We get it, you don't like the MCU. Go back to watching proper art house flicks like Pitch perfect and The Angry Birds movie and leave us to our dreck.
If the MCU is McDonalds, what does that make the DCEU?
The burnt-on-the-outside, raw-on-the-inside burger patty your drunk, chain-smoking uncle tries to make on July 4th?
Mediocrity sells.
Some of the MCU is good. Iron Man, Iron Man 3, Thor Ragnarok, The Winter Soldier, Black Panther, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and Endgame are all films I enjoy a lot.
But I agree, most of the MCU is very middle of the road, but they are basically factory-made to have mass appeal. It's the McDonalds of movies.
Some of the MCU is good. Iron Man, Iron Man 3, Thor Ragnarok, The Winter Soldier, Black Panther, Guardians of the Galaxy 2 and Endgame are all films I enjoy a lot.
But I agree, most of the MCU is very middle of the road, but they are basically factory-made to have mass appeal. It's the McDonalds of movies.
I'm in the same boat. I think they are mediocre cookie cutter movies. But I think they're successful exactly because they are in-offensive "shut off your brain for a couple of hours" movies.
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