This.
And super hero villains are supposed to be campy, cliche, and are often very predictable. Thats the fun of it. Like slasher horrors.
Don't over think it because you know the VA's previous works.
I have got a tiny... kinda big problem with Troy Baker in Spider-Man: Miles Morales
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This.
And super hero villains are supposed to be campy, cliche, and are often very predictable. Thats the fun of it. Like slasher horrors.
Don't over think it because you know the VA's previous works.
It didn't even click with me that it was him. I just kept thinking how odd it was how much he looked like Topher Grace and kept remembering him as Venom in Spider-Man 3.
Thank you! I'm glad I wasn't the only one! I thought it was Topher Grace at first? But the voice was different.
Oh I didnt realise it was Troy.
He is a bland villian though, I've been playing it for a bit now expecting the real villian to show up.
He is a bland villian though, I've been playing it for a bit now expecting the real villian to show up.
Oh yeah. Don't get me wrong, I love Ashly as Chloe (obviously) but I can't think of anything since that wasn't her pretty much just being Chloe.
Here in Spain everytging is dubbed. That means that the vast majority of times the same voice actor dubs different major actors. For example, Al Pacino, Sylvester Stallone and Robert de Niro are dubbed by the same voice actor.
What I want to say is that we are pretty much used to "oh, look, thats Al Pacino" when a new actor gets dubbed by a familiar voice actor.
So, for me, hearing common or repeated voice actors in different games has never been an issue.
What I want to say is that we are pretty much used to "oh, look, thats Al Pacino" when a new actor gets dubbed by a familiar voice actor.
So, for me, hearing common or repeated voice actors in different games has never been an issue.
How is too much to ask for non dull main character of the game? He is on screen for quite a while to be this generic.
Leo has shot like 4 movies in 6 years or so. Hanks is in 1/2 movies a year. Baker is in like 3-4 blockbusters/games every year.
Its pútting me off in every cutscene. Actually, i had to pause mid cutscene to create this thread. Its a big reason for why I find this important character so unappealing.
Or when he voiced David in the last of us. No idea it was Nolan until the credits rolled. These guys can have different voices, people just won't let them.
The villain is so lame and the performance from Troy sounded so phoned in it took me right out of the game.
I'm glad I wasn't the only one that made that connection.It didn't even click with me that it was him. I just kept thinking how odd it was how much he looked like Topher Grace and kept remembering him as Venom in Spider-Man 3.
Except, I kept thinking of That 70s Show and how Eric is a supervillain now.
I haven't even played the game, but I've seen ~30 minutes of someone streaming this game. When I randomly heard this Simon guy on a radio, I instantly thought "This is Troy Baker, right?"
He seems to be pretty easy to recognize in Spider-man (as well as in many other games, tbh).
He seems to be pretty easy to recognize in Spider-man (as well as in many other games, tbh).
All I could hear was Troy Baker. At least in the Medium he should sound different.
Really though, I love Troy Baker, Laura Bailey, Nolan North, etc. but I can't unhear their voices. Even in roles like Sam Drake and Nadine. There are exceptions like David from TLOU, Joel from TLOU and MJ in Spidey, but they mostly do the same voice. Even weirder for Laura is the voice she does isn't her own, but many characters slip into it.
They are incredibly talented but maybe it's direction, overexposure or both but I'm far more excited nowadays to hear an unknown or even an up and comer like Lindbeck or Burch than their voices just due to how often they appear in games. I mean, Baker has played Hulk, Batman, Joker and Krieger in the last 2-3 years and 3 of them sound the exact same. Laura played MJ, Black Widow, Gwen Stacy/Spider Gwen, and Catwoman in the same time period and again, 3 sound identical. It's really becoming distracting and immersion breaking.
As for your point about Insomniac's writing, I feel the villains weren't great in Miles, particularly Tinkerer's motivation towards the end feeling straight out of a bad episode of Arrow (like Season 4 bad), but they nailed Doc Ock, Mr. Sinister, Jameson, Osborne and the rest of the Six in the OG Spider Man game.
Really though, I love Troy Baker, Laura Bailey, Nolan North, etc. but I can't unhear their voices. Even in roles like Sam Drake and Nadine. There are exceptions like David from TLOU, Joel from TLOU and MJ in Spidey, but they mostly do the same voice. Even weirder for Laura is the voice she does isn't her own, but many characters slip into it.
They are incredibly talented but maybe it's direction, overexposure or both but I'm far more excited nowadays to hear an unknown or even an up and comer like Lindbeck or Burch than their voices just due to how often they appear in games. I mean, Baker has played Hulk, Batman, Joker and Krieger in the last 2-3 years and 3 of them sound the exact same. Laura played MJ, Black Widow, Gwen Stacy/Spider Gwen, and Catwoman in the same time period and again, 3 sound identical. It's really becoming distracting and immersion breaking.
As for your point about Insomniac's writing, I feel the villains weren't great in Miles, particularly Tinkerer's motivation towards the end feeling straight out of a bad episode of Arrow (like Season 4 bad), but they nailed Doc Ock, Mr. Sinister, Jameson, Osborne and the rest of the Six in the OG Spider Man game.
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I feel like you dont have to pay Baker for this lame ass character. There are probably hundreds of VA that can deliver his lines in same quality.. but we, overusing VA for unimportant roles is gonna stick...