What tv do you recommend for OP and people like me? Let's keep it to this thread rather than having to hunt and pick other threads, bec
Im not actively encouraging anything other than just not being a douche. The first reply -- the one I replied to which offended you -- was not helpful at all, it came off as snarky and condescending.But you're actively encouraging misleading information and companies that take advantage of people who aren't technically informed. That's not "yucking people's yum" or whatever you say to make yourself feel better about taking advantage of others.
The reason people responded the way they did was because OP made a grand statement about HDR while having a TV that does not display HDR, only accepts an HDR signal and tonemaps. That's a very important distinction.
I'll never understand why some people shit on those who try to help.
then why even bitch about the fact that i dont have true HDR when its not an option? For my little bedroom this is perfectly fine.Do you have HDR+, Contrast Enhancer turned on and maybe the picture mode in Dynamic?
I ask because I have an 40 inch MU6300 in the bedroom, and with all those "enhancers" turned off, the TV gets extremely dark when an HDR signal is sent to it. I don't use those enhancers in that set, so I disable HDR as SDR gives me the better experience. Enjoy your set as you like though.
Premium HDR starts with the 49 inch sets, think of the Sony X900F for example. They just don't include true HDR for TV sets in the 40 inch to 43 inch range. unfortunately the option is not there for TV's in those sizes.
It's your thread title as mentioned before. People just pointing out that you're not even close to seeing the potential of the technology.
Just a heads up the base PS4 does HDR fine, you don't need the Pro to enjoy HDR. Not sure about on the X1 side. HDR on PC has been kind of a crapshoot for me personally, but I thought Far Cry 5 looked pretty nice with it turned on. I would say RDR2, but not sure if it supports HDR on PC.So for the longest time ive put off getting an hdr 4k tv. But for black friday i got a small 43 inch tv for my room because i live with my friends. I got the samsung nu6900 and the first thing i did was turn on hdr and i was blown away by how good it looked.
Now i need more HDR showcase games. Any suggestions?
Mostly pc games. dont really have a 4k console
Because you were the one who made a thread title about "seeing the light", that's a strong proclamation without any research on your part.
It's literally just a factual sentence but I guess if you're really defensive about it "proper HDR" might be mildly condescending. I'm grasping at straws here mate.
Just pointing out the differences you may be seeing may be do to the enhancers and not the HDR. I'm not sure if you have calibrated the TV yet, but if you did, then you should be seeing how dark HDR gets on these sets.
this is the cheapest TV I've seen ($349) that is actually entry level HDR as opposed to faux HDR
And that's fine OP. If you are seeing a difference, by all means, enjoy it!
You are conflating some TVs that’s genuinely do HDR poorly with all TVs bellow 600 nits doing HDR poorly.It's a massive problem with HDR marketing right now, why do you think there are so many posts here saying they can't see a difference? Every 4K TV under the sun has HDR branding but half of them can barely get past 200-300 nits which is nowhere near bright enough for proper HDR.
I find KS8000 doing better HDR (without subtitles) than TCL P617 and on par with SONY X930E, which is kinda surprising.
SDR is intended to be viewed at 100 nits and with a smaller color gamut than HDR.
RTINGS' reviews are full of great content, but their scoring system is worthless. Its high score is because the input latency is low when HDR is active, not because it does a good job of displaying HDR.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/nu6900 said:The Samsung NU6900 is a good TV for HDR Gaming. This is due mainly to the very low input lag at 4k @ 60Hz + HDR and the fast response time that leaves only a little blur in fast action. Unfortunately, the TV cannot display HDR content as the director intended as it cannot get very bright and does not have a wide color gamut. Therefore, although it will be responsive when gaming in HDR content, the picture quality will not be what you would expect.
I just got a 65" Q90R and can't tell the difference from my old non-hdr 46" 1080p screen :P then again i don't have them side by side to really see. Just playing off memory at this point.And that's fine OP. If you are seeing a difference, by all means, enjoy it!
However, I want to be transparent. If this is "seeing the light" in your case, then prepare to see a Supernova when you eventually see an actual 700-1000 nits display with wide color gamut and a good HDR game implementation (or Dolby Vision + OLED)
The whole experience can only improve, congrats on your purchase!
I guess I should have been more clear, the number is meaningless, you need to read the review and look at the brightness values and (lack of) local dimming.
A lot of folks will disagree but I've always thought Destiny 2 looked amazing on both console and PC w/HDR. One of the best implementations in my book even if it's not totally accurate tech/HDR jargon-wise.
It may depend on some conditions. Sadly, HDR standardization is a mess at this stage.
it is true that in the 43” space your options are limited. The best would be a Samsung q6 and then slightly behind that would be a vizio m or tcl 5 series. All of them wide color gamut. Only the Samsung hits even over 500 nits iirc. The tcl and the vizio are like 400 nits. The tcl is a bit tricky because rtings only measures in tcls “dark Dolby vision” mode when there’s a normal and bright dv setting that is brighter and you can offset the contrast and blue tint changes those modes introduce. They did measure normal hdr at 374 nits. Eyeballing it bright hdr seems at least a another hundred nits over normal as the dark hdr is only 300 or so nits. Also hdr 10 stuff seems brighter than dv stuff in general. So it might actually be a 500-600 nit set, there just aren’t any comprehensive measurements.
I have the 49X800D. The reason is the peak brightness is only at 380 nits for the TV. Some HDR content requires much more. I've tried spending ages as well. I have a x900f and there's a difference in brightness (1000 nits) and HDR looks much more impressive. Just read it's also because of local dimming zones which X800D didn't have.
should i return the samsung and go with the tcl? samsung doesnt have the wide color gamut. is the tcl brighter?it is true that in the 43” space your options are limited. The best would be a Samsung q6 and then slightly behind that would be a vizio m or tcl 5 series. All of them wide color gamut. Only the Samsung hits even over 500 nits iirc. The tcl and the vizio are like 400 nits. The tcl is a bit tricky because rtings only measures in tcls “dark Dolby vision” mode when there’s a normal and bright dv setting that is brighter and you can offset the contrast and blue tint changes those modes introduce. They did measure normal hdr at 374 nits. Eyeballing it bright hdr seems at least a another hundred nits over normal as the dark hdr is only 300 or so nits. Also hdr 10 stuff seems brighter than dv stuff in general. So it might actually be a 500-600 nit set, there just aren’t any comprehensive measurements.
I just got the tcl s525 43” and I’m very impressed with it. It’s nearly as good as my b7 oled.
this 600 nit stuff is hogwash. You can still get a good hdr effect with wcg and even 300-400 nits. You just might miss out a bit in the 2% and 10% highlights, which while important, isn’t the only thing going on with hdr. Even without wcg Samsung is doing something to improve just a regular 4K image so chill out people.
honestly up to you. depends if you want to deal with the hassle and spending a bit more, and if you like the roku smart platform or Samsung. If you’re happy with your set be happy with it.
The great thing about nits that high is when you're playing a game with decent HDR, like Assassins Creed Odyssey, coming out of a cave and having the sun shine in your face makes it really seem like the real sun is shining in your face.
would you say its brighter than the samsung? in non dark mode that is?