Holyy sheeet. You are so savage 😂😂"The whole game is super testosterone laden and the lack of any good female characters is so fucking obvious. I know this game came out several years ago but I really hope Rockstar does some reflecting on how to make a female character with some depth rather than have her there for titilation and target practice."
It is LITERALLY in your own OP, lol.
I'm not saying I don't want it.
But GTAV has SOLD 110 MILLION COPIES.
110 MILLION.
I don't think Rockstar really wants to fuck around here. They want another 100 million for GTA6.
They aren't gonna do anything that rocks the boat. And I wouldn't be surprised if they think that a female protag would rock that boat.
There was an interview where someone asked the Housers that exact question ("female when?") and they shrugged it off saying they have 40 years+ of GTA story ideas and none involve any female protags because their stories are more or less mimicking the oldschool type flicks with male protags.
They also said they'd never do another GTA outside of america again in that same interview but people still request it so there's that.
He only spoke about GTAV... i think
In the future, could we do a game with a lead female character? Of course. We just haven't found the right game for it yet, but it's one of the things that we always think about. It didn't feel natural for this game but definitely for the right game in the future – with the right themes, it could be fantastic. But for GTA V, this was the organic thing that came up, these were the characters what would display the themes we wanted to think about.
Speaking for myself – and normally I'd be as militant about saying 'we' as much as possible, because it certainly isn't only me at all, thank god – but my own personal feeling is that GTA is America.
This game literally prints money. Thats not even an exaggeration. GTAV is STILL fucking selling like 7 years later.
Do you honestly think Rockstar is gonna fuck with their formula?
The question is do you think Rockstar would actually be able to handle including that representation in a good and meaningful way?
What we would likely get is something akin to another "Prostitute with a heart of gold" trope where I highly doubt women would be shown in a socially positive way.
Representation for the sake of representation is silly if that representation is shit.
Yes, because that's a logical thing to hope for.
A lot of it was GTA Online concept art. They still show it on GTA Online loading screens.The concept art of GTAV really fooled me, i really hoped there would be one.
Or rather have them make another GTA spin-off based on life of Akihabara.
Maybe they can pull it off with MCFem.
Whatever their promotion scheme was, they still fooled me ;)A lot of it was GTA Online concept art. They still show it on GTA Online loading screens.
Kill Bill has such a focused and driving narrative in comparison to a game like GTA though. GTA games are more about portraying 'the life' rather than specific events. There are always revenge elements in the GTA games, but those plots take a back seat for huge portions of the game. I'm not sure how that would work in the context of a story like Kill Bill.I thought about this for a bit & them aping Kill Bill sounds amazing
What about GTAs visual style stops a female protagonist from being used? I don't get it.Meh. I don't mind, but (a) I don't see it happening, and (b) GTAs visual style is so stylized that it wouldn't be something I'd enjoy personally.
If course, would be good if it happened.
The GTA games have often deliberately courted controversy. Personally, I don't think they'd be particularly bothered by that criticism, since they're no stranger to criticism (and outrage in general).I can see Rockstar have a female protagonist among multiple protagonists as a way to shield some of the criticism of the game being mysoginistic in this day and age.
Agreed, but the criticism is much louder with the advent of social media and the issues more polarizing with the "SJWS ruining everything" rhetoric all over the internet. Not to mention, most game companies have tried do a better job in that regard than in the past, due to having a decent understanding to issues they never even considered before.The GTA games have often deliberately courted controversy. Personally, I don't think they'd be particularly bothered by that criticism, since they're no stranger to criticism (and outrage in general).
What about GTAs visual style stops a female protagonist from being used? I don't get it.
The Housers hold us, all of us, Americans especially, in contempt. It's obvious.I'm replaying story mode in GTAV (never actually finished it when it came out) and while the game and dialogue and setting are brilliant, it's amazing how Rockstar handles females in the game. The whole game is super testosterone laden and the lack of any good female characters is so fucking obvious. I know this game came out several years ago but I really hope Rockstar does some reflecting on how to make a female character with some depth rather than have her there for titilation and target practice.
Has Rockstar ever made a game featuring a female protagonist? Not that I can remember.
I really hope this changes. I really want to see the GTA world through a different vantage point.
Let the incels yell, I want my fem fatale.
That would be awesome.I'd like them to do a fully customisable character and a few voice actors regarding ethnicity and gender, it'd be expensive, but this is GTA we're talking about it's a franchise that makes literally all the money in the world, and more to boot. It's also a franchise known for its ridiculously large budgets so they could totally pay several voice actors to record the lines and pay for the budget of a character creator.
Thats basically my point tho im pretty sure their attempt would be a net negative for female representation.
Have you played RDR2?
GTA never copies the movies it apes 1:1 like you're mentioning here. Them copying Kill Bill would be copying the spine of the story. Protag is in a crew, life's good, then all of a sudden, left for dead. The end goal would be of course making due with where she was wronged (most GTA endings involve settling the score with someone who wronged you) but the guts of the game is where the Houser writing comes into play. They fill in the gaps and make a GTA game of you trying to get to the people who wronged you. Seeing as there's a time skip between the "left for dead" and the actual start of the main game, this creates the unknown for the PCKill Bill has such a focused and driving narrative in comparison to a game like GTA though. GTA games are more about portraying 'the life' rather than specific events. There are always revenge elements in the GTA games, but those plots take a back seat for huge portions of the game. I'm not sure how that would work in the context of a story like Kill Bill.
I honestly can't think of any major female characters in the genre of movies that serve as the inspiration for GTA games. To me, that's the underlying problem that needs to be addressed, since the Housers lift so much of their GTA stuff directly from movies. On the big screen we see lots of female spies, but so few hardened female criminals.
This would be really cool.GTA never copies the movies it apes 1:1 like you're mentioning here. Them copying Kill Bill would be copying the spine of the story. Protag is in a crew, life's good, then all of a sudden, left for dead. The end goal would be of course making due with where she was wronged (most GTA endings involve settling the score with someone who wronged you) but the guts of the game is where the Houser writing comes into play. They fill in the gaps and make a GTA game of you trying to get to the people who wronged you. Seeing as there's a time skip between the "left for dead" and the actual start of the main game, this creates the unknown for the PC
What's the problem with a prostitute protagonist?The question is do you think Rockstar would actually be able to handle including that representation in a good and meaningful way?
What we would likely get is something akin to another "Prostitute with a heart of gold" trope where I highly doubt women would be shown in a socially positive way.
Representation for the sake of representation is silly if that representation is shit.
GTA isn't going to lose sales because it has a female protagonist lmao. Who in the actual fuck would be like "Oh cool a new GTA. Oh I have to play as a girl ewwwww I'm not buying it now"?I'm not saying I don't want it.
But GTAV has SOLD 110 MILLION COPIES.
110 MILLION.
Gears game and pretty much any game are indie numbers compared to that thing.
I don't think Rockstar really wants to fuck around here. They want another 100 million for GTA6.
They aren't gonna do anything that rocks the boat. And I wouldn't be surprised if they think that a female protag would rock that boat.
We'll see. I hope I'm wrong, but I highly doubt it.