I don't think it is normal though. There's likely a spectrum for anger and feeling the urge to physically assault someone over a t-shirt they are wearing is not on the normal end. I get that the t-shirt represents bad things to you, but that doesn't change this.
You never fantasize about doing questionable things you'd never act on
I think if any politician gets a person so heated that they want to carry out violence on someone, then I think it may be time to start focusing on something in your life other than politics.
The goal post has been moved.
I've never wanted to assault someone for their choice of t-shirt or bumper sticker political slogans, no.
What would be the point of doing that?I've never punched anyone and even gotten in a fight in my 40 years on this planet. But here I am, eating in my favorite Indian joint where I see a guy and his family enjoying the delicious tandoori chicken. As I walk by I see he's wearing a shirt that says "Trump 2020, Make liberals cry again." It was at this point that had to tell myself not to lay hands on him. I was actually considering the consequences!
I don't know what came over me. Whatever it is, it's not good. Has anyone else had this reaction to a trump supporter IRL?
What about people with Che or Mao t-shirts? Soviet Union hats? Punch em all, eh?All of these and all of them like that are extremely disingenuous, by the way.
It is not about the shirt, the literal article of clothing, its about what it represents. Its baring a symbol of white supremacy with pride
This thread is constantly disingenuous lmao. Just keep dismissing this as nothing but a political slogan or a difference in opinion
What about people with Che or Mao t-shirts? Soviet Union hats? Punch em all, eh?
Wearing something doesn't give anyone permission to assault you.
It's what it is imo.
Maybe this guy is totally jacked up b/c he believes (right or wrong) that Trump has save the economy, his particular business sector, whatever. But if he's wearing the shirt he's automatically a Nazi that deserves to be assaulted.
People support political candidates for all sorts of reasons and despite the fact that there may be a huge spectrum of unsavory/unethical that goes with a particular candidate that may offend you, we don't get to go around beating them up.
It's what it is imo.
Maybe this guy is totally jacked up b/c he believes (right or wrong) that Trump has save the economy, his particular business sector, whatever. But if he's wearing the shirt he's automatically a Nazi that deserves to be assaulted.
People support political candidates for all sorts of reasons and despite the fact that there may be a huge spectrum of unsavory/unethical that goes with a particular candidate that may offend you, we don't get to go around beating them up.
OP had the strongest urge in his 40 year life to punch a dude for a shirt. LOL that's normal right?The people telling OP to seek professional help over a compulsion that he had and did not act on need to get their heads out of their asses.
People have compulsions to do bad things every now and then, and the mark of a person is if they act on it or not. Clearly OP did NOT act on that compulsion. He makes it clear that he has never felt this way before, and that a non-typical situation (the President of the US threatening a member of Congress) pushed him that far.
I get it's comfortable sitting in your chairs tut-tutting the OP for *gasp* giving into emotion for a fraction of the second, but stop acting like you all aren't as human as the OP. Trump supporters want to see other people hurt. They want other people to suffer just because of their skin color, country or origin, religion, etc. OP is perfectly reasonable to get angry over this kind of thing.
The fact that OP did NOT act on the compulsion means the guy is probably just fine. Talking to someone would probably be a good idea, but to go as far as to diagnose him with anger management issues? You're all being disingenuous.
I'm similarly non-violent and have had moments of anger flare up like that. It happens. We're all human. People acting like they have the moral high ground over OP need to grow up, themselves. At least OP is connected enough with reality to understand what that t-shirt represents.
Typical response of someone who feels they have no skin in the game. SUPPORTING FASICSM IS NOT NORMAL. What will it take to drill that into your head? I guess it's comforting to pretend that all of this is business as usual in politics? You're deluding yourself. Holy shit, do you watch the news at all? Trump is not just any other politician. How hard is that fact to understand?
OP had the strongest urge in his 40 year life to punch a dude for a shirt. LOL that's normal right?
OP had the strongest urge in his 40 year life to punch a dude for a shirt. LOL that's normal right?
Typical response of someone who feels they have no skin in the game. SUPPORTING FASICSM IS NOT NORMAL. What will it take to drill that into your head? I guess it's comforting to pretend that all of this is business as usual in politics? You're deluding yourself. Holy shit, do you watch the news at all? Trump is not just any other politician. How hard is that fact to understand?
So you mad at the op for not going through with it?Exactly. These are the same people who if Hitler were rising to power, would sit around and do nothing. You dont defeat these people by being nice and talking with them. We need to be strong, if people dont stand up to these nazis they will gladly murder all those of non-white ethnicity. These people literally want 1940s Germany all over again, yet there are people in this thread saying violence isnt the answer. LMFAO. Get real. Being punched for supporting that racist pos isnt enough.
Dude is sitting there, eating with his family, doing nothing. Attacking him for a stupid t-shirt is stupid. Simple as that.All of these and all of them like that are extremely disingenuous, by the way.
It is not about the shirt, the literal article of clothing, its about what it represents. Its baring a symbol of white supremacy with pride
Dude is sitting there, eating with his family, doing nothing. Attacking him for a stupid t-shirt is stupid. Simple as that.
Dude is sitting there, eating with his family, doing nothing. Attacking him for a stupid t-shirt is stupid. Simple as that.
Of course his anger is understadable. Dude is wearing a stupid shirt to mock other people. I'm talking about the punching part. Which is stupid.This is preachy, but have you thought about how this guy is advertising his support for a monster who makes sure that families much like his own can't sit together and enjoy a meal just because of the color of their skin? Because they came to the US legally seeking asylum?
I'm not saying OP should punch this guy. I'm saying that I find his anger understandable.
Dude is a jerk, as it looks like, wearing a jerk shirt to mock people. Still no reason to punch a man who's doing nothing while eating in an indian joint. Punching him = stupid.You know as well as everyone else that it's not about a shirt. Stop being disingenuous.
Dude is a jerk, as it looks like, wearing a jerk shirt to mock people. Still no reason to punch a man who's doing nothing while eating in an indian joint. Punching him = stupid.
Don't listen to arm-chair therapists, OP. Anger is a gift.
If you see someone wearing a Swastika, you should feel the urge to punch someone in the head. Wearing the icons of modern Fascism should give you the same reaction
I vividly fantasise about brutally murdering people for relatively minor slight if I'm in a bad mood, OP. Emphasis fantasy. You're good OP, just as long as you remember to keep it as fantasy.
Wow, this thread. Pretty interesting seeing a bunch of, "It's just a shirt, seek help!" when it's not just a shirt.
I don't blame you at all OP. If that guy had the opportunity to kill you and all the people you love, he'd do it. He'd probably happily do it too.
Typical response of someone who feels they have no skin in the game. SUPPORTING FASICSM IS NOT NORMAL. What will it take to drill that into your head? I guess it's comforting to pretend that all of this is business as usual in politics? You're deluding yourself. Holy shit, do you watch the news at all? Trump is not just any other politician. How hard is that fact to understand?
So, basically you want a civil war, or at least open violent hostility against anyone who publicly supports Trump.
Of course we all have skin in the game. He's also got free speech, but are we not ok with that if we don't like the message?
He's not sporting a message on the shirt that directly implies anything that would rise to the level of hate speech. It's just a shirt.
He's also got free speech, but are we not ok with that if we don't like the message?
But would you actually just walk up to this dude in the restaurant and punch him though?
Like seriously would you?
I ain't defending the guy in the shirt but if you're suspicious of posters opposing assaults on strangers then you gotta walk the walk. You can't call someone out for not wanting to hit the guy if you kniw you yourself would hold back from hitting the guy.
Do you believe that Free Speech never has consequences between two people?
So, why are you responding and assuming my positions without reading the rest of my posts throughout this thread?
Of course we all have skin in the game. He's also got free speech, but are we not ok with that if we don't like the message?
He's not sporting a message on the shirt that directly implies anything that would rise to the level of hate speech. It's just a shirt.
When I read posts like the op's I feel like the poster needs to grow up.
Those who post online about "nearly" or wanting to punch people are the least likely to ever have the nerve to go through with it. It's just posturing for attention.
There are far more effective ways of opposing Trump than throwing a shit punch at an idiot in a restaurant. What do you really think you're going to achieve? The most likely outcome is getting hit back.
And this is how fascism gets a pass as it continues to fester and ruin lives. Wonderful.
And this is how fascism gets a pass as it continues to fester and ruin lives. Wonderful.
I commend you, o logical one, for you cannot even fathom the experience of momentarily becoming overcome by your emotions. No, you are always 100% logical in handing all situations and you consider all of these logical arguments you have described in your post in any and all moments, no matter how brief. No matter what outside events may have affected someone like OP in such a way as to make him more likely to respond to a t-shirt like this particularly aggressively.
Who isn't trying to get attention when they're making a post? OP wanted to share this experience that he found disturbing. I don't really see that as unreasonable. Especially since OP already explained that he did NOT hit the guy. He just felt an irrational urge for a moment based on an emotional response. In other words, OP is a human being.