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I just learned that they brought back the Ultimate Universe and I am shook

Katori

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I haven't read comics since probably...2015 or so. But I try to keep up with the goings-on and stories, and I heard about the demise of the Ultimate Universe during Secret Wars.

But now (actually two years ago but how would I know?), Bendis brought back the Ultimate Universe before he left Marvel??? And they haven't done anything with it since?

Man, Marvel editorial is just head-scratching. I liked the Ultimate Universe quite a bit but I understood why they consolidated. Now it's back which is ballsy and cool for Bendis but it's been two years and they did nothing with it since? I don't understand. Was it brought back just as a plot point for Spider Men II?
 
skillzilla81

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Wasn't Franklin out there restoring all the universes?

But yeah, it was cool to see Ultimate Parker and Spider-woman. <3
 
Sandfox

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The next arc of the Miles Spider-Man book will be Ultimate Universe related and next year is the 20th anniversary, so if they're going to do anything with it will be then.
 
Dalek

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Ending the Ultimate universe was the best thing that could have ever happened to it.
 
denx

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Unless they grow out of all the edgelord bullshit of the old Ultimate universe, don't bother.

Ultimate Spiderman was the one saving grace of the Ultimate line.
 
skillzilla81

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Dalek said:
Ending the Ultimate universe was the best thing that could have ever happened to it.
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Nah, Ultimate Spidey could have gone on forever. Too bad Marvel kept getting Parker and Miles stuck in world ending events every six months. I think it really hurt Miles' first few years. Couldn't have a single arc without getting him wrapped up in some other shit.
 
Dalek

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skillzilla81 said:
Wut, where?
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He's coming back.
 
Kurdel

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denx said:
Unless they grow out of all the edgelord bullshit of the old Ultimate universe, don't bother.

Ultimate Spiderman was the one saving grace of the Ultimate line.
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I got into comics round 2015, so finding out about the edgelord Ultimate Avengers was a hell of a trip.
 

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Marvel comics used to guide the movies, now the movies guide the comics. They're so afraid of taking risks that awesome characters and universes are left to idle while we get the thousandth team up of characters from the movies for a 5 issue arc serial.
 
Hero_of_the_Day

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Kapryov said:
I remember somebody once telling me to try Ultimate X-Men because they fixed Gambit, he was now "darker" and "blows people up" or something.

They didn't do a good job selling me on the comic.
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I fucking loved Ultimate Spider-Man. I would have said it was my favorite monthly up until I got into Invincible.

So, I was fucking pumped for Ultimate X-Men. I don't even think I made it through the first trade, it was such fucking shit. I actually own a bunch of the trades I got from a lot on ebay for like $20 a couple of years ago. Still never read them. Maybe someday I'll give it another go.
 
VeePs

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Katori said:
I haven't read comics since probably...2015 or so. But I try to keep up with the goings-on and stories, and I heard about the demise of the Ultimate Universe during Secret Wars.

But now (actually two years ago but how would I know?), Bendis brought back the Ultimate Universe before he left Marvel??? And they haven't done anything with it since?

Man, Marvel editorial is just head-scratching. I liked the Ultimate Universe quite a bit but I understood why they consolidated. Now it's back which is ballsy and cool for Bendis but it's been two years and they did nothing with it since? I don't understand. Was it brought back just as a plot point for Spider Men II?
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Some of the characters from the Ultimate universe were transplanted into 616 as well.

You know about Miles.

But Ultimate Reed/The Maker is out there too. He was in a few books already, like Ultimates 2 and more recently Venom.
 
RestEerie

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what i meant is that they should never even meet at all....

the ultimate universe is supposed to be the condensed, 'easier' and more modern rendition of the heroes without the decades of baggage & history......

mashing them (or at least bringing the popular ultimate characters like miles, sam jackson nick fury, etc) to the 616 universe just complicate stuff and creates even more 'confusion'
 
Manmademan

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Katori said:
I haven't read comics since probably...2015 or so. But I try to keep up with the goings-on and stories, and I heard about the demise of the Ultimate Universe during Secret Wars.

But now (actually two years ago but how would I know?), Bendis brought back the Ultimate Universe before he left Marvel??? And they haven't done anything with it since?

Man, Marvel editorial is just head-scratching. I liked the Ultimate Universe quite a bit but I understood why they consolidated. Now it's back which is ballsy and cool for Bendis but it's been two years and they did nothing with it since? I don't understand. Was it brought back just as a plot point for Spider Men II?
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Bendis didn't bring back the Ultimate Universe, that's still dead.

It was a one page homage to a universe similar to it.
 
RumbleHumble

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Mixed feelings on this idea. Ultimate Spider-Man was my gateway into comics. I still own the full original Peter Parker run of that series. From there, I grew to love some of the Ultimate X-Men and Ultimates runs.

And then Jeph Loeb got his hands on the Ultimates line and ran that shit into the ground, revealing just how much edge lord bullshit was at the core of Ultimates and Ultimate X-Men. Re-reading those old issues in the wake of Ultimatum revealed how much everything besides Ultimate Spider-Man really did suck.
 
timedesk

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RumbleHumble said:
Mixed feelings on this idea. Ultimate Spider-Man was my gateway into comics. I still own the full original Peter Parker run of that series. From there, I grew to love some of the Ultimate X-Men and Ultimates runs.

And then Jeph Loeb got his hands on the Ultimates line and ran that shit into the ground, revealing just how much edge lord bullshit was at the core of Ultimates and Ultimate X-Men. Re-reading those old issues in the wake of Ultimatum revealed how much everything besides Ultimate Spider-Man really did suck.
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Ultimate X-Men had some decent runs, but starts and ends terribly. Hickman's run on the Ultimates post Ultimatum was really interesting, but he got pulled off before he could really write a satisfying ending. Pretty much everything else was dreadful.

Ultimate Spiderman really was the major saving grace of the entire line, and has some really great takes on classic characters. Ultimate Aunt May and Gwen Stacey are amazing, and easily my favorite versions of either character. Even Jameson was great, and was allowed the chance to grow and change. Restoring the universe would be worth it just to get those characters back.
 
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