What a stupid post
Firstly there's entire communities of people who go out of their way to monitor traffic to and from devices and you can do this yourself. If google or anyone else was doing this it would be hugely HUGELY public because anyone can traffic monitor their own device. I can do it right now.
Secondly Occam's Razor in this scenario is that Advertising algorithms and profiles are incredibly advanced which is public knowledge and so ad targeting is often right on the money.
Thirdly local based auto listen is a feature available with Shazam, Xbox Kinect, Alexa and Google Home devices and everything else and their is a HUGE difference to detecting audio input and running a query search based on that audio or a local command based on audio instructions and "PHONES ARE LISTENING TO US" conspiracy shit
This is a must to look at: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6030020?co=GENIE.Platform=Desktop&hl=en&oco=0
Your phone is usually recording you chattering away in the background, and you can choose to opt out of it. If you've never turned it off, check the clips it has recorded of you.
I'm not going to attack you personally and respond by saying what a smug fuck you are but..
I'm not going to attack you personally and respond by saying what a smug fuck you are but..
You're an example of the type of individual that thinks that just because you know a little bit about a thing (or in some posters case, a lot about something) means you know it ALL. The fact of it is that no matter how smart you think you are there are plenty people smarter than you and Google, Microsoft, Amazon, Facebook have the resources to hire some of the smartest people in the world. Two of those companies have more than 90% of the ad market for the internet and I'm very confident they are spending their billions in revenue on making sure that they can grow that marketshare.
So forgive me if I don't take comfort in smug forum poster Stalker telling me that the algorithm is taking my cousins friend sisters aunt brothers son's search query and using location data blah, blah, blah to send me some fucking ad when I coincidentally JUST fucking had a conversation about the most obscure thing ever (in relation to me). The simple matter is we're walking around with a phones in our pockets that have powerful snapdragon and A4 processors with anywhere from 2 to 12gbs of ram at any and all times. These powerful computers are doing very complex things and listening in our conversations is one of the most basic, which we know they do. The argument is about to what extent.
You don't know what you don't know. Just because I and the posters who are saying it's happening to them can't explain HOW doesn't mean it's not happening. Just because you and the posters who are giving detailed breakdowns of what you THINK is happening is saying something doesn't make it so. That is actually working to the benefit of these companies.
Following my testing, I am confident none of the devices I used are doing anything unusual or malevolent.
You're an example of the type of individual that will ignore logic and reason to further their own opinions. Confirmation Bias at it's finest.
AGAIN since you obviously missed it or ignored it because it doesn't support your conspiracy.
PEOPLE MONITOR NETWORK TRAFFIC FOR FUN. If anyone was listening in on you it would be public knowledge because its so easy to monitor network traffic and see exactly EXACTLY what is being sent and to who.
It's likely you're going to come back with some snarky "you don't know what you don't know" nonsense to further your conspiracy but you can't prove this one iota and you know what I can prove.
I can log and trace every single data packet from my phone. I can see exactly down to the individual packet payload what is being transmitted and to who. I can prove no one is listening you can't prove your dystopian fantasy.
Edit:
Oh look an article in which someone tracks his networking traffic
https://www.androidauthority.com/is-your-smartphone-spying-on-you-953309/f
I'll yield.
If and when we do discover that this sort of thing may have been happening and it's explained in a way that makes people go "hmm, I never thought of that", will you all have the courtesy to acknowledge that you were wrong this whole time. I wonder.
Yes, but I doubt it'll happen without it being seen immediately through network traffic.I'll yield.
If and when we do discover that this sort of thing may have been happening and it's explained in a way that makes people go "hmm, I never thought of that", will you all have the courtesy to acknowledge that you were wrong this whole time. I wonder.
Yes, but I doubt it'll happen without it being seen immediately through network traffic.
But you set yourself up in a situation in which you never have to admit you're wrong. You're basically saying "I'm not wrong because I don't believe you, but if I'm proven right in the future you're wrong."
Can we run workshops on Era?
I'll yield.
If and when we do discover that this sort of thing may have been happening and it's explained in a way that makes people go "hmm, I never thought of that", will you all have the courtesy to acknowledge that you were wrong this whole time. I wonder.
I don't think I needed to add that she turned it on when I gave it to her. Anyone would have understood that."I turned off the phone and when I handed it to my mother there were ads for snorkel masks and fins in google chrome. "
Yes, and I will support every prize in science going to the engineers who worked out how to transmit data undetectably and/or run 24/7 speech analysis on a phone while maintaining a usable battery life, all on consumer hardware and without full access to the OS, and under the noses of the entire security industry.I'll yield.
If and when we do discover that this sort of thing may have been happening and it's explained in a way that makes people go "hmm, I never thought of that", will you all have the courtesy to acknowledge that you were wrong this whole time. I wonder.
I don't think I needed to add that she turned it on when I gave it to her. Anyone would have understood that.
I did the ultimate test some weeks ago.
I bought a new phone for my mother and I set it up with a new google account using the WiFi in the restaurant where I was having lunch. There was nothing AT ALL on the phone, no contacts, no apps, no assistants, nothing, only the standard apps you get with a Motorola phone.
As a test, I started talking about going to the lake and getting to do some snorkeling (which I NEVER did and have no plans to as I'm asthmatic. Never ever did I talk about the subject).
I turned off the phone and when I handed it to my mother there were ads for snorkel masks and fins in google chrome.
Sorry, but that's proof enough for me.
I'm not talking nonsense. It's a test I did that day, that's all. That was the result whether you like it or not. I can't explain how it knew that I talked about snorkeling but it did. Me I don't use androidand google apps anymore nor social media so I'm not really concerned.To be fair, you are talking nonsesnse about a globabl conspiracy around your phone going above and beyond all known technical capability and listening to you to sell you snorkelling equipment.
So yeah, I'm not sure you can be picky about what everyone should understand.
I can't explain how it knew that I talked about snorkeling but it did.
I guess all those people who monitor network traffic missed this somehow 😆This is a must to look at: https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/6030020?co=GENIE.Platform=Desktop&hl=en&oco=0
Your phone is usually recording you chattering away in the background, and you can choose to opt out of it. If you've never turned it off, check the clips it has recorded of you.
You didn't open this link.I guess all those people who monitor network traffic missed this somehow 😆
Anyway, Facebook's TOS says it uses your mic whenever it wants and so it seems Google does too.
What's saved in your Voice & Audio Activity
Google records your voice and other audio, plus a few seconds before, when you use audio activations like:
Saying commands like "Ok Google"
Tapping the microphone icon
Your audio is saved to your account only when you're signed in and Voice & Audio Activity is turned on.
Testing it myself.
No, that's exactly my point: People who "monitor network traffic" missed this. Somehow. Conveniently.
No, that's exactly my point: People who "monitor network traffic" missed this. Somehow. Conveniently.
It's difficult to tell whether you're serious. Nobody denies the existence of Google Assistant or is in any doubt as to how it works.No, that's exactly my point: People who "monitor network traffic" missed this. Somehow. Conveniently.
BruhNo, that's exactly my point: People who "monitor network traffic" missed this. Somehow. Conveniently.
YupI guess all those people who monitor network traffic missed this somehow 😆
Anyway, Facebook's TOS says it uses your mic whenever it wants and so it seems Google does too.
Or how to detect it and break it down as it goes through your internet connections?It's difficult to tell whether you're serious. Nobody denies the existence of Google Assistant or is in any doubt as to how it works.
Yeah they're listening to you specifically.
Now let's listen to 100 million peoples audio in real time.
Where are all of the voice analyst jobs that they're hiring for
1. Those 100 million people already carry supercomputers in their pockets which are more than capable of doing sophisticated audio processing.
2. Sending back a list of discovered keywords takes a trivial amount of bandwidth, no human analysis required.
BTW, how long was the government spying on everyone before Snowden blew the whistle?
having voice analysis running all the time is a noticable battery drain and people (including me) disable google assistant voice command feature to save some life1. Those 100 million people already carry supercomputers in their pockets which are more than capable of doing sophisticated audio processing.
2. Sending back a list of discovered keywords takes a trivial amount of bandwidth, no human analysis required.
BTW, how long was the government spying on everyone before Snowden blew the whistle?
lmaomaybe they only turn it on on people who are metadata profiled to be conspiracy theorists, because no one will listen to their wild claims?
Come on now. Everyone knows this. It's self-evident. You're either being disingenuous or you have missed the point entirely.People are acting as if we're saying they are RECORDING each and everything we're saying when in fact we are saying they are LISTENING to what you're saying. Listening for key words just like "ok Google".
Nope, but now that you typed "Black Helicopters" there will be!
Edit: Oh shit, so did I! I'm fucked
1. Those 100 million people already carry supercomputers in their pockets which are more than capable of doing sophisticated audio processing.
2. Sending back a list of discovered keywords takes a trivial amount of bandwidth, no human analysis required.
BTW, how long was the government spying on everyone before Snowden blew the whistle?
Or how to detect it and break it down as it goes through your internet connections?