What? Run of the mill comic book movies ahead of one of the best sci-fi movies this decade?
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I think Blade Runner 2049 surpasses original.
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What? Run of the mill comic book movies ahead of one of the best sci-fi movies this decade?
I need a poster or wallpaper of K lying down in the snow stat. That moment combined with the song was 11/10.
Also I was shocked that they made miniatures for locations and not CGI for all of them, so cool.
Also I was shocked that they made miniatures for locations and not CGI for all of them, so cool.
I thought the first wasn't a masterpiece to begin with. Didn't buy the romance and was disinterested at times. I loved 2049 and i wished i had gone to see it again.
Btw, regarding the whole replicant revolution thing. The want to gain the ability to procreate, which is exactly what Wallace wants. At first glance their goals don't seem that at odds (other than W. wanting to dissect the girl of course)
2049 is far more fulfilling to watch. The original is great too but it's definitely a struggle to rewatch it sometimes. I feel like I could easily watch 2049 every month or so and enjoy it every time (seen it three times in the cinema). It feels epic. I actually rather love the score but we're missing some sexy jazz music. At first I was a bit down on the visuals, mainly the fact this world is too glossy and clean, could have done with K having a darker dustier apartment. That's where it kind of lost the noir feeling of the original which could have just made this film perfect. Other than that though it is a tour de force. K's journey is just heartbreaking but soul affirming.
In other words, I absolutely loved it and can;t wait to own this on bluray
In other words, I absolutely loved it and can;t wait to own this on bluray
It's the kind of movie I expected Hollywood to completely misunderstand going into the modern century, and yet, it's surprisingly even more thought provoking than it's original, in large due part to it realizing that the original's strengths were in the contemplative moments, as well as the advantages of hindsight. The more I think about the movie the more profound it feels, and the story has a lot more of a forward momentum than the original. The simplicity and groundbreaking nature of the original movie may fare better with many, but 2049 consistently keeps me engaged from start to finish, and there isn't a single beat in the story where I feel like it drags on despite the protracted running time, which the first movie definitely felt like it did on more than one occasion. The only thing I think the original did better was the score but beyond that it's an improvement in pretty much every way.
Rereading this interview withHampton Fancher and Michael Greenand this line gets me every time.
Boom.
Boom.
No word on optical formats yet, but the Amazon Video UK preorder page lists the release date for streaming as January 29, 2018.
I have to respectfully disagree here.
I enjoyed the movie, but it had no where near the impact on me as Blade Runner did. Especially when it came to atmosphere and set design, while it was good it wasn't as good as Blade Runner imo.
The story also wasn't as impactful to me. I mean in the end it was
Whereas with the original the impact was a lot more profound for the character
Also the soundtrack, while decent it was not Vangelis greatness.
Don't get me wrong, I thourghly enjoyed 2049 and it is easily one of the best sequels to a classic film that's been done, but it doesn't eclipse the first one, to me at least.
I enjoyed the movie, but it had no where near the impact on me as Blade Runner did. Especially when it came to atmosphere and set design, while it was good it wasn't as good as Blade Runner imo.
The story also wasn't as impactful to me. I mean in the end it was
Him finding out that he wasn't the son rather just yet another replicant who was sent on this mission through his dreams created by the Ford's real offspring, in the end he still goes through with it knowing this and sacrifices himself to help them reunite.
Whereas with the original the impact was a lot more profound for the character
Finding the truth behind the people he's hunting, questioning himself and what he's doing. Falling for a replicant and then that glimpse at the end of maybe he himself is a replicant and not a human after all, the themes and ideas presented throughout the movie, to me, were more profound, questioning what it is to be human.
Also the soundtrack, while decent it was not Vangelis greatness.
Don't get me wrong, I thourghly enjoyed 2049 and it is easily one of the best sequels to a classic film that's been done, but it doesn't eclipse the first one, to me at least.
I feel like they're both oddly flawed movies that are amazing, but 2049 is by far the most amazing of the two. It also might have been lthe best directed film that I have ever seen in my life, probably edging out Fury Road. How it managed to keep me on the edge of my seat for over two hours while barely anything happened is no small feat. 2049 has far better acting as well. On that note at least ford showed up for the sequel instead of what we got in the original.
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The only thing I like in the original more is the soundtrack and the character of Roy Batty in contrast to 2049's antagonists. Other than that, 2049 feels like a complete improvement in both narrative and visuals. It's really unthinkable how they were able to pull it off so well.
Nothing could ever top the original, it was a landmark movie that defined every aspect of the cyberpunk genre. 2049 is just a great sequel.
When K lies down on those steps and Tears in Rain starts playing after he and Deckard have crawled out of the sea and "evolved"...it was a beautiful moment. A different director probably would have cashed in on the nostalgia much earlier in the movie but Denis really made that reprise feel earned. The movie went out if it's way to show us how the Earth and humanity as a species have massively decayed, but the human spirit will never be extinguished, even if it has to live on through our own creations.
When K lies down on those steps and Tears in Rain starts playing after he and Deckard have crawled out of the sea and "evolved"...it was a beautiful moment. A different director probably would have cashed in on the nostalgia much earlier in the movie but Denis really made that reprise feel earned. The movie went out if it's way to show us how the Earth and humanity as a species have massively decayed, but the human spirit will never be extinguished, even if it has to live on through our own creations.
I think it's better too. Story and characters are more fulfilling. Visuals are still top notch. Score is great. The original Blade Runner still stands the test of time because of the technical aspects and Roy Batty. But I feel like 2049 takes the ideas and themes only really touched upon in the original and does something special with them.
2049 is extremely good and I also think it's better than the original in many ways. I also think that people who believe the original are better are validated. They're both very different films, but the sequel adds to the original, which is rare in my opinion.
2049 makes me want to buy an OLED tv just to watch it again in crisp 4K. It was super good. I never do this but I had to watch it twice in the theater cause I realized I probably wouldn't have a theater experience like that again in a long time. I will say that the soundtrack from the original was much more fulfilling for me though.
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It's a fair question and I don't think the movie offers a satisfactory answer. The only explanation I can infer is that the Wallace Corporation in this universe effectively has carte blanche to do what it wants and the LAPD is powerless to stop them.
When you strip away the layers of earned and perceived prestige the original's been accumulating over years by being so visionary for its time and judge both films only on their individual visual effects, conceptual and storytelling merits, sure, I probably gravitate towards the new one.
Think what you'd get if you combined every conglomerate in the world right now into one entity. That's probably how powerful Wallace corp is. One captain isn't going to raise any eyebrows.
I enjoyed watching 2049 but I didn't love it as much as I was expecting to.
I think my biggest problem with the movie was Jared Leto's character. I don't think his motivations were all that compelling and he just felt underdeveloped. I don't know, maybe I need to watch it again. I was having a good time for practically the entire run time... it just didn't leave a huge impact on me when it was over. Maybe all the hype around it got my expectations too high.
I think my biggest problem with the movie was Jared Leto's character. I don't think his motivations were all that compelling and he just felt underdeveloped. I don't know, maybe I need to watch it again. I was having a good time for practically the entire run time... it just didn't leave a huge impact on me when it was over. Maybe all the hype around it got my expectations too high.
I agree with the sentiment that 2049 overall easily surpassed the original movie.
But I like the really dark tone of the first.
I'm about to give this a third viewing! This time on a brand new 4K player on a 65inch!
But I like the really dark tone of the first.
I'm about to give this a third viewing! This time on a brand new 4K player on a 65inch!
Looks like there are two active 2049 threads, which is kind of confusing:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/blade-runner-2049-is-a-fantastic-movie.5424/page-23
https://www.resetera.com/threads/blade-runner-2049-is-a-fantastic-movie.5424/page-23