I love how Leon is constantly reminding us how stupid Rose's motives are.
Eternatus has ties to the power spots that produce energy. Rose wanted it to be an unlimited source of energy because he believes in the "why put off tomorrow what you can do today" mentality and wants to prevent the depletion of the region's power supply. Those images appear in the battle with it because that's where the power spots were going nuts due to Eternatus.Did they ever go into what calamity was coming in a thousand years that waking up Eternatus would prevent? Also why was it showing my memories in little picture bubbles during the battle?
Better wait a few weeks after it's released because Gamefreak is 100% going to not detail any features cut from the originals and reviews will be near useless again and not mention them eitherhave not bought Sword or Shield yet, and i'm most likely not gonna do it.
All i'll say is: can't fucking wait for Sinnoh remake. It's almost time i can feel it.
Also the story was the best in gen 4.
There's a difference between previous games and this.I have played quite a few Pokemon games and I have always skipped the dialogues in those games after certain point.
Pokemon has always had bare bone and/or nonsensical plot and dialogues.
Why is this some kind of revelation to ERA that Pokemon has bad or no story?
Not every game needs big dramatic overarching plot story to be good :/
There's a difference between previous games and this.
Because there is no story, you just go to town to town defeating the gyms. In multiple cities, you just go to the gym and leave. For example, in the Water town, there's a lighthouse. In previous games, you'd go to the lighthouse and fulfill a quest. Because this game just involves you going to the gym and defeating the leader, there's none of that.
Just feels very barren and no real point to anything. There are no "bad guys" through out the story really. There's no side plot in any of the towns that you must deal with before you fight a gym.
Because we have to play through ~20-30hrs of the single player to be able to access all the features needed for competitive play. You say people only care about "collecting, breeding, training and battling." which i'd disagree with. For a lot of people the actual single player was enjoyable even though the story was simple. Navigation the world was fun, there were cool locations and areas to play though, cool setpieces/events, etc. But now it feels like those things have largely been removed and replaced with poorly done, highly intrusive excuses for cutscenes that now actively hamper the little enjoyment there is exploring the worldNot sure why people want to bother with story in Pokemon, but I notice this board has always placed greater emphasis on story/narrative.
No side quests remove content, you're arguing that people don't care about the story period but most people play through the story and stop, I think most people would care if they lost side story content. By side story I mean things that aren't just the gym challenge.I don't know if that's necessarily an issue.
The lack of good story/writing has never bothered me, and I assume this is true for most Pokemon players too.
Pokemon's main draw is in collecting, breeding, training and battling.
Previous games has little story, but they're not exactly good either, so why not just remove those parts if they're not going to put more effort there?
Not sure why people want to bother with story in Pokemon, but I notice this board has always placed greater emphasis on story/narrative.
For you maybe.I don't know if that's necessarily an issue.
The lack of good story/writing has never bothered me, and I assume this is true for most Pokemon players too.
Pokemon's main draw is in collecting, breeding, training and battling.
Previous games has little story, but they're not exactly good either, so why not just remove those parts if they're not going to put more effort there?
Not sure why people want to bother with story in Pokemon, but I notice this board has always placed greater emphasis on story/narrative.
Here are three separate scenes in Final Fantasy XV:
The main bad guy asks you to follow his convertible as he drives into the night. You slowly drive behind him for like three minutes.
The empire kills a hotel owner, Jared, that is in the game for maybe five seconds. Your entire team is emotionally wrecked. Later on, you suddenly decide to attack a random military base you just happen to pass by in revenge for Jared's death. Your friend's little sister waits in the car while you do so.
Your car gets stolen and you attack a completely separate yet eerily similar military base. After you beat the boss, you slowly walk to your car in the parking lot. Your girlfriend's brother confronts you. Your big friend defends your honor, only to get punched in the stomach. The scene ends. Moments later, the big guy who swore to defend you to the death, leaves the party for no reason. Everyone is cool with this.
Nothing in Pokémon Sword/Shield is as bad as anything I mentioned above.
Nah, none of this has anything on storming Rose's tower. Although the last paragraph is awful, at least its only a few minutes of stupidity.Here are three separate scenes in Final Fantasy XV:
The main bad guy asks you to follow his convertible as he drives into the night. You slowly drive behind him for like three minutes.
The empire kills a hotel owner, Jared, that is in the game for maybe five seconds. Your entire team is emotionally wrecked. Later on, you suddenly decide to attack a random military base you just happen to pass by in revenge for Jared's death. Your friend's little sister waits in the car while you do so.
Your car gets stolen and you attack a completely separate yet eerily similar military base. After you beat the boss, you slowly walk to your car in the parking lot. Your girlfriend's brother confronts you. Your big friend defends your honor, only to get punched in the stomach. The scene ends. Moments later, the big guy who swore to defend you to the death, leaves the party for no reason. Everyone is cool with this.
Nothing in Pokémon Sword/Shield is as bad as anything I mentioned above.
I have played quite a few Pokemon games and I have always skipped the dialogues in those games after certain point.
Pokemon has always had bare bone and/or nonsensical plot and dialogues.
Why is this some kind of revelation to ERA that Pokemon has bad or no story?
Not every game needs big dramatic overarching plot story to be good :/
Not sure why people want to bother with story in Pokemon, but I notice this board has always placed greater emphasis on story/narrative.
Okay now that I'm at the endgame...yeah it's worse than I thought.
There's NO reason anyone should mistrust Chairman Rose from the POV of the main characters, and Leon is just having a meeting with him...
But then all of a sudden Hop and Piers just decide to fuck things up? And then Oleanna just pops up and gives us a reason to be suspicious by being pointlessly antagonistic.
imagine how cool it would have been if it was this gen's Silph Co.I actually like them playing the song over each fight...
I hate when you storm the base in past games and the music keeps quitting out with the victory jingle only to toss you into another fight.
If storming the tower had any meaning plotwise I'd think it was a cool scene.
no. Oleana's henchmen have black sunglasses. the regular guys have yellow onesIs it me but EVERYONE of the League dudes have those sunglasses right? I was confused by that detail.
I was wondering why the anime wasn't doing Sword/Shield and then while playing this I understood why.
the cartoon salvaged the mess that was XYI was wondering why the anime wasn't doing Sword/Shield and then while playing this I understood why.
Yeah that was weird.Okay now that I'm at the endgame...yeah it's worse than I thought.
There's NO reason anyone should mistrust Chairman Rose from the POV of the main characters, and Leon is just having a meeting with him...
But then all of a sudden Hop and Piers just decide to fuck things up? And then Oleanna just pops up and gives us a reason to be suspicious by being pointlessly antagonistic.
That's the solution in every game thoughI liked how the solution to stop a literal walking apocalypse is to simply catch it in a pokéball so he wont be going around causing disasters anymore.
And it's not just an in game "maybe not canon" encounter, Leon was literally going for it.
they somehow went from Sun and Moon, to this.
I don't know how they did it, but damn
I'm a pretty big Gen 5 fanatic, but I don't see how BW's story is better than Sun and Moon's. I always thought gen 7 had a lot more cool pieces attributing to the overall whole than gen 5 did.Even S&M story was bad imo, Black and White is where the story was actually good enough.
I'm a pretty big Gen 5 fanatic, but I don't see how BW's story is better than Sun and Moon's. I always thought gen 7 had a lot more cool pieces attributing to the overall whole than gen 5 did.
I remember this thread, having finally absorbed this all this isn't even the worst Pokemon story. Definitely feels like kneejerk when nonsense like XY exists.
I'm a pretty big Gen 5 fanatic, but I don't see how BW's story is better than Sun and Moon's. I always thought gen 7 had a lot more cool pieces attributing to the overall whole than gen 5 did.
If you can't tell the difference between the two in quality I don't know what to tell you except you're just wrong. Sword and Shield at least knows how to establish things before they're brought up again.
If you can't tell the difference between the two in quality I don't know what to tell you except you're just wrong. Sword and Shield at least knows how to establish things before they're brought up again.
I'm not saying Sword and Shield is good, I'm saying it has good spots that puts it above XY. Which is literally all bad.
Yeah they did establish that dynamax power came outer space and that there was some shady shit going down at the powerplant in Hammerlocke. Eternatus being a living being is a reveal that ends Sonia's ongoing storyline about the Darkest Day as well and gives context to what exactly Zacian and Zamazenta were fighting. The Eternatus reveal is like the whole reason you have to sit through those lectures from Sonia the whole game. It's the answer to one of the earliest questions in the entire storyline. It's set up it just happens too quickly. The real issue is how does Rose know about the Darkest Day when Sonia had yet to publish her findings.