I mean, you're both free to think it does, but it doesn't so go off I guess. Like, this is Resetera, I don't expect intelligent conversation from anyone here.
I mean, the challenges are still there without the game telling you.
OP: I don't play games for trophies or achievements, but I still think they're pretty cool. I like 'em.
They're terrified they might catch that completionist bug and not be able to get that sweet 100%.
I'll give my take: they're cool because they serve as milestones, objectives, and miscellaneous tasks of generally the majority of the game's content. They can be interesting, fun, and challenging, and historically, they've even taken me out of my comfort zone in an aim to accomplish things I sometimes wouldn't have set out to do.
Sometimes it's fun to have something to work towards. Something with at least a pseudo meaningful goal instead of arbitrary.
They literally aren't unless you're trying to make them up for yourself - and even then, there's no proof you did it unless you're recording everything you do.
This seems like an odd complaint to me. Why is an interest in an optional feature something that "gaming has become for a lot of people" from your perspective? Would you make this same comment about the recording and screenshotting features of modern consoles? They're a system wide feature that most games use that are by no means necessary for the platform to provide good games, but they absolutely add something meaningful to the system for a lot of people. Does the enjoyment of that feature mean the product is not speaking for itself?
And it's as though you aim to contribute to ResetEra's perceived lack of intelligent discourse, as you've raised no points at all in response to "Shouldn't the player be the one that determines whether trophies or achievements add to the experience for them?"
Achievements are generally a personal thing, typically no one really cares about yours other than yourself. So you don't really need proof of doing anything, you're not going to court over it. You can do a thing just for the fun of it!
