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alexi52

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Oct 28, 2017
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The couple's 12-year-old daughter, a U.S. citizen, is in Phoenix without parents.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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He's being allowed back in according to the Twitter feed but holy crap how was it allowed to come to this?
 
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Wulfric

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Oct 25, 2017
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Surely they need to send notices like that through Certified Mail.

ICE shouldn't have even refiled the case in the first place.
 

skullmuffins

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Oct 25, 2017
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...I thought that you gained permanent residency through marriage to a citizen?
it's not automatic, and for people who entered illegally the law makes it a huge pain in the ass to get a green card even after marrying a citizen. Basically afaict you need to go back to a consulate in your home country for processing, and then you'll face a 3-10 year ban on reentry to the US unless the US government grants you a waiver. It should go without saying that the Trump admin isn't too keen on giving out waivers.
 
Nov 9, 2017
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...I thought that you gained permanent residency through marriage to a citizen?
Yeah like skullmuffins said, it's a very complex system. My sisters were able to waive due to being DREAMers and even then they still had to go through extensive filing, fees, and wait times. One of my sisters even had her green card lost for 3 months and the office forgot to tell her until she called in after she felt it was too long. ICE is pretty dog shit cuz they prioritize catching someone and immediately sending them to a center regardless of who exactly they are, whether they were doing something criminal or not, or even checking said person's credentials. You're here illegally they'll take you even if you are a person with a life here and even possibly going through proper proceedings.
 

BossAttack

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Oct 27, 2017
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it's not automatic, and for people who entered illegally the law makes it a huge pain in the ass to get a green card even after marrying a citizen. Basically afaict you need to go back to a consulate in your home country for processing, and then you'll face a 3-10 year ban on reentry to the US unless the US government grants you a waiver. It should go without saying that the Trump admin isn't too keen on giving out waivers.

Correct.
 

Books

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Feb 4, 2019
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Tough time to be here illegally even as a vet. NPR had a spot about a place in tijuana where deported vets met up to try to figure out what ti do Next.
 

Stinkles

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Oct 25, 2017
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...I thought that you gained permanent residency through marriage to a citizen?


It can but it's not automatic. It allows residency while the marriage is verfied. Then the resident STILL has to apply for residency, employment authorization and eventually citizenship.

And it takes a long time. And if the marriage is proven or even suspected to be for convenience it won't happen. And if the applicant was illegal when the marriage happened, that can be highly problematic. In that sense it's similar to a lot of countries.

Children/Parents have different criteria. This one was kind of shocking even with all the above factored.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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He's being allowed back in according to the Twitter feed but holy crap how was it allows to come to this?
It definitely would not be the first time someone here legally was deported even if all his stuff is in order. Our immigration court system is completely fucked up too and has deported American citizens in the past. Not just far too few judges, but iirc, the normal right to counsel doesn't really apply (for some obviously utterly bullshit reason).
 

jfkgoblue

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Oct 27, 2017
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Tough time to be here illegally even as a vet. NPR had a spot about a place in tijuana where deported vets met up to try to figure out what ti do Next.
At least now if you join the military you get fast tracked citizenship, in my experience pretty much all non-citizens that joined the military were citizens by the time boot camp ended.
 

GaimeGuy

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Oct 25, 2017
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They deported him despite a stay of removal.

Hold the ICE officials who ordered and carried out the deportation in contempt of court.
 

Umbrella Carp

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Jan 16, 2019
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This is the politics of fear. ICE knew that he would be allowed back anyway, they're just trying to send a message and scare the shit out of people
 

Puroresu_kid

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Oct 28, 2017
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Horrible but here in the UK it's no better.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.th...s-sham-marriage-crackdown-hostile-environment

Genuine couples are being prevented from getting married and are subjected to "insulting" and "gruelling" checks as part of a government crackdown on sham marriages, a Guardian investigation has found.

Couples and lawyers described wedding ceremonies being interrupted so that the Home Office could question people about their sex lives, an official finding a nude picture on a person's phone and showing it to others in the room, and dawn raids carried out to check if couples were sharing a bed.

In one case, a couple were told their relationship could not be genuine because they were wearing pyjamas in bed. In others, people have been detained for months after being wrongly accused of entering into a sham marriage.
 

higemaru

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Nov 30, 2017
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Prosecute ICE. Every employee. Nuremburg Round Two. Half of them are Gestapo meatheads and the other half are spineless document signers.

Maybe let the janitors go, idk about them.
 

FaceHugger

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Oct 27, 2017
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We really don't need ICE. It was founded in the wake of 9/11 and was a bad idea even then. Still pissed at Obama for not getting rid of it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I almost made a thread about this the other day, I cannot tell you how angry I got reading that story. Its things like this that make me laugh and have to correct people when they express even a modicum of sympathy for Theresa May, this is all the hostile environment that cold hearted witch was so proud to create. Fuck her and fuck the Tories.
 

HStallion

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Oct 25, 2017
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At this point I just assume that ICE is manned by the absolute worst of humanity. Racists, bullies, sadists and so on.
 

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Dec 20, 2017
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Fight for your country, die for your country and we will make sure to deport your spouse and orphan your children. Trumps America.
 

Wally_Wall

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Oct 26, 2017
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What in the world is going on? Why can't we just overhaul immigration? Innocent children who were brought over at 1 and raised their entire life are living in fear. Hiding in the shadows. How can they be deported? Such a joke of a policy. What exactly was this infant supposed to do while they were entering the country?
 

Jroc

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Jun 9, 2018
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Tough time to be here illegally even as a vet. NPR had a spot about a place in tijuana where deported vets met up to try to figure out what ti do Next.

It blows my mind that someone can serve in the armed forces without being a citizen. Do they not ask for a SIN? Don't they do SOME kind of background check when you enlist?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Hernandez said he filed a motion to reopen Gonzalez Carranza's deportation case. The motion triggered an automatic stay of removal, but ICE deported him anyway, Hernandez said.

Wang also said it Gonzalez Carranza should not have been deported if there was a stay of removal. She said, however, it is "not uncommon" for ICE to violate stays of removal.

What the fuck? I bet the court summons was purposefully sent to the wrong address as well.
 

Failburger

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Dec 3, 2018
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