Uh, you only have to marry with an US citizen to be demand citizenship ?
Just curious, that seems far too simple.
ICE has arrested 21 Savage and are claiming he’s “unlawfully in the U.S.”
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Just curious, that seems far too simple.
His folks came from Dominica. He’s probably never even set foot in the UK.
reposting for the new page...
I don't know that it's worth posting, much less reposting the daily mail.
Stop. You're treating the entire premise of self identity as if it were molded in stone, which is something that people who have never experienced radical geographical moves during childhood do. The words mean different things to different people. The birthplace of a person is not necessarily where the person feels is home, and it's not at all misleading for them to state that as where they're from.
I was born in Maryland, but moved to Florida at age 4. Am I lying when I don't say I'm from Maryland? If so, that's stupid and arbitrary, because nothing formative to my identity was obtained in MD. I identify a different location in FL as where I'm from. If saying that is okay, then when the hell is the magical cut-off age for your approval?
Kev and Heather lol
Although should never have been leaked if it's legitimate.
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Yes but it takes a LOT of time and effort. (My wife is from Africa).
I always heard him say he was from Dominica. Maybe that's just his family though and not necessarily him.
So do you have a source that’s legitimate? I’m not believing the Daily Mail.
Bruh... The guy is a superstar who spent nearly half his life overseas. His situation is a little different from yours. lol
Also, given that he raps about selling dope and killing people, i'd guess not mentioning any of this would be more out of creating an image than thinking ICE would actually come for him.
No, I didn't.. at all... what in the world? You are the only person making blanket statements about 21 savages identity, you somehow know full well none of his identity stems from the first 12 years of his life (quite pedantic.)
How in the world do you know how 21 Savage feels abut this? Neither you nor I know how 21 Savage feels about where he's form or who his self identity is or how much of that he ties back to wherever he was actually born and spent the first 12 years of his life.
Nothing I said is about people feeling like they are from somewhere different than where they were born... my entire point was that all of this is sort of pointless because 21 Savage has a damn good reaosn to never mention to the public where he is actually from, in that doing so would get him arrested and deported.
No, much like I quite literally said in my post you quoted that I wouldn't say 21 Savage is lying.
The entire point of my post is here:
Have no clue why you found this to be THE ABSOLUTE WORST ARGUMENT ON THE INTERNET EVER!riotous said:
According to his attorney:
However, attorney Jacoby Hudson—who worked with 21 on getting his 2014 conviction expunged—disputes Cox's latter claim. "He's not a convicted felon, so they reported that wrong, from their 2014 arrest," Hudson said. "That arrest should be expunged. He has no felony convictions."
This whole thing reeks as much as the Trump administration and ICE itself.
However, attorney Jacoby Hudson—who worked with 21 on getting his 2014 conviction expunged—disputes Cox's latter claim. "He's not a convicted felon, so they reported that wrong, from their 2014 arrest," Hudson said. "That arrest should be expunged. He has no felony convictions."
This whole thing reeks as much as the Trump administration and ICE itself.
Oh, he's proper fucked then. He'll likely be permanently barred from re-entering the U.S. depending on those felony drug charges.
Like Blah said, it was supposed to be expunged. He might have a chance.
Being married to a U.S. Citizen while being a non-citizen grants the couple certain wavers under current immigration law, including forgiveness or unlawful presence and certain criminal offenses under a waiver. Waiting periods are also shorter for spouses of US citizens for things like the good moral character period and eligibility for naturalization.
Expungement means basically nothing under immigration law as USCIS does background checks from the FBI that pull all arrest records. Even if it's been expunged, they'll see it and treat it as a conviction under immigration law if an admission of guilt was ever pleaded. He needs the felony charge to be dismissed or nolle prosequi and hopefully his lawyers had that happened, and if they didn't, do so now before removal proceedings are complete.
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He's qualifies for DACA status in that case. I'm sure his laywers are already on top of it, through it, and around it.
Interesting tidbit!
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Did he graduate high school?
I bet they'd not grant him DACA under the vague "or poses a threat" wording either way.
Nope, that doesn't matter. An expungement does not remove the underlying criminal conviction. So, there is really no hope there. He's proper fucked.
They are claiming he was't convicted I believe though, it's the arrest that was supposed to be expunged.
True. But it just seems weird. Like most other people would brag about that, our at least use it as a way to connect to fans over there. Hopefully after this is settled he starts talking about it.
Ah, that would change things. If he was convicted, then he's done. If the charges were dropped or never filed, then he's in a much better position.
You can be easily excluded from America for an arrest, not just convictions, when it comes to immigrants. Especially if its drugs or anything connected with violence or fraud. This is why when you apply for a visa they ask about any arrests, not just convictions.
For sure, as I mentioned earlier the vague langage of DACA doesn't ONLY exclude convicts.
Just the fact he was arrested with Nudy in that car could probably disqualify him. He's asociated with known criminals.
Convictions are what matters for eligibility bars for admission.
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That's what a lot of people are confused about. If he was an illegal immigrant, how has he done international shows?
Also, some of Savage's DMs have leaked and he says this:
I really don't think immigration courts / judges see it that way.. in fact quite the opposite.. "his cousin and other family members are criminals" could get him denied DACA even if he wasn't hanging out with them when arrested.
Convictions just automatically disqualify you... pretty sure this is in the wording on purpose:
So that they can disqualify people for much more vague reasons than convictions. Unless they treat that "and" as only refering to convicts, then he might be safe.. but I wouldn't trust immigration courts here.
naw, that shit phony to me, it's as phony as soulja boy saying he from Bompton.
you can represent atlanta, to say you were born and raised there, naw brah. its ducktales.
most of these rappers are phony tho.
it's facts tho
I'm not talking about purposes of DACA. I'm talking about his ability to later obtain legal status in the United States in the future. Under INA 212(C) he would be inadmissible if he attempted lawful re-entry after deportation.
And, he will likely be found deportable under INA 237(2)(b):INA 212 said:
His only option would be to apply for a waiver, but getting a waiver for criminal convictions is not exactly easy.
My favourite part was people asserting that being from Dominica would have made him a British citizen even though it ceased to be a territory over 40 years ago.
Anyway, the UK Foreign Office has been in touch with his lawyer.
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1PT130
Don't trust this could be fakeThat's what a lot of people are confused about. If he was an illegal immigrant, how has he done international shows?
Also, some of Savage's DMs have leaked and he says this:
did you know andre 3000 isn't actually from the year 3000
and gucci mane doesn't own gucci
soulja boy was never, ever a soldier
lil jon is a pretty big guy
its all built on lies
at least ludacris is ludicrous
Born in Lagos Nigeria moved to Atlanta at age 8 still living in Atlanta, when people ask where I'm from I say I was born in Nigeria but been living in Atlanta since I was 8.
I'm 23 now I could say I'm from Atlanta outright cause I've been here more than half my life but I still like to tell people where I was born cause I got nothing to hide.
Why 21 didn't mention he was born in Uk, only he knows. My guess is because he probably didn't have his paper straight and he never mentioned it in any interview everything was born and raised in Atlanta etc
Like you said you like to say where your from base on how many years u stayed, looks like 21 took note and did the same
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I love threads like this when the whole first page jumps without info and end up looking stupid.
Every single mainstream rapper is probably a federal agent or in the intelligence community. Their job is to proliferate Black stereotypes to the masses.
21 Savage is an M15 plant.
21 Savage is an M15 plant.
Lol
You get a green card. Then you can request citizenship after 2 years, instead of the usual 5. I think.