If Trump loses, will you try to reconcile with people you cut out of your life ?

If Trump loses, will you try to reconcile?

  • Yes.

    Votes: 39 3.1%
  • Yes, but only if they recognize their mistakes

    Votes: 155 12.1%
  • Yes, but only if they take the first step

    Votes: 121 9.5%
  • I tried, but it's a lost cause

    Votes: 106 8.3%
  • No. After everything, I don't want these people in my life anymore.

    Votes: 959 75.0%

  • Total voters
    1,278

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Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
2,279

Reading the article above about how the political division broke apart many families, I wonder if reconciliation with people who supported the idiot is possible. I'm not an American but here at home we also have a facist in the presidency. Because of politics, I severed relationships with two close friends and I can't see myself returning to the friendship, even if they realize how stupid they were. So are you going to try to reconcile even if people maintain their support for fascism?
 

jml

Member
Mar 9, 2018
3,116
They have to reconcile with me. Prove to me that they now understand they were wrong and I might be willing to give them another shot. If that doesn't happen they're staying cut off.
 

shnurgleton

Member
Oct 27, 2017
15,219
Boston
depends on how close those people are. close family? yeah of course. random high school acquaintances who are now hyperchuds? no, why would I?
 

Humidex

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,694
No. I had the same sentiments when it came to people who supported Brexit and Trump back in 2016.

Contrition is practically non-existent here.
 

Platy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
21,918
Brazil
only if they take the first 10 steps =P

like i don't care about any fascist supporters unless they come to me with a sincere "yeah this communism thing is pretty cool"
 

Slayven

CEO of ZAIA
Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
62,906
Support for trump shows deep faults in a person(supporting bigotry, and conspiracy theories to name a few). They got to do the work to change
 

Tuorom

Member
Oct 30, 2017
6,830
lol, well I mean what do they expect when they want to back someone who actively enacts measures to hurt you and the people you care about.

If they are that spiteful then they need to hit the gym and work on themselves before I'd ever think of being comfortable with them again.
 

Renna Hazel

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,265
I haven't cut anyone out of my life but my relationship has strained a bit with a few people. I'm hoping that resolves. One of my friends claims he's voting Biden this time around but I don't actually believe him. I'll see how he behaves after the election.
 
Oct 26, 2017
6,626
Appalachia
They have to reconcile with me. Prove to me that they now understand they were wrong and I might be willing to give them another shot. If that doesn't happen they're staying cut off.
Yeah this isn't "we had differing opinions about an inconsequential thing and now that there's a definitive answer it's all good".

It's more like:
Support for trump shows deep faults in a person(supporting bigotry, and conspiracy theories to name a few). They got to do the work to change
Put it better than I was about to lol thanks Slayven. Like, my family isn't gonna stop being transphobic and diet racist because Trump lost.
 

Captain_Vyse

Member
Jun 24, 2020
1,434
I want to try, but I can't reconcile the evil they have allowed. I'm a cancer survivor, so I have a pre-existing condition. It really hurts to see that Trumpers do not care about people like me.
 

HockeyBird

Member
Oct 27, 2017
9,508
No. Me cleaning up someones shit off the floor does not tell me that they have learned to be potty trained. Trump voters need to recognize all the horrible things they are responsible for and the lives they ruined. Then they need to start doing positive things that will actually benefit society before reconciliation can even begin.
 

Charpunk

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,051
Nope, I want nothing to do with these people ever again. They aren't suddenly going to stop being racist asshats if trump looses. If anything, it's going to make them even more of a racist asshat.
 

Khanimus

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
26,591
Greater Vancouver
So is Trump losing like a magic spell being lifted or something? Like "Ah the shroud of darkness has been lifted! Their hearts have been purified!"

No, if they're still shitty fascistic bigots, then fuck them forever. They have a deep well of awful shit they need to fix before they're worth my time and patience.
 

Lobster Roll

Member
Sep 24, 2019
13,786
Nope. I need to see several years, maybe even a decade, of them openly supporting progressive stances and not to me but in their social media, in conversations, in voting, etc. There’s no meeting in the middle. There are no “sides”. Being progressive is the ticket to get a chance to have a conversation in the first place.
 

SwampBastard

The Fallen
Nov 1, 2017
5,818
They have to reconcile with me. Prove to me that they now understand they were wrong and I might be willing to give them another shot. If that doesn't happen they're staying cut off.
+1 for this. This isn't a matter of policy differences. This is a matter of how people view and value humanity. I'm gonna need to see receipts to know that they've actually learned and changed.
 

Bladelaw

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,428
No. Me cleaning up someones shit off the floor does not tell me that they have learned to be potty trained. Trump voters need to recognize all the horrible things they are responsible for and the lives they ruined. Then they need to start doing positive things that will actually benefit society before reconciliation can even begin.
This is me. If there's no effort to recognize and fix the core issues they got cut off for then there's no hope in reconciliation.
 

Kraken3dfx

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,224
Denver, CO
The people I've cut out due to politics have been toxic and in most cases blatantly racist, so no. Just because the election is over doesn't mean these people are any better than they were before November 3rd.
 

shinobi602

Game Dev
Verified
Oct 24, 2017
5,212
Nope.

I could have made an exception if they supported him in 2016 but realized their mistake, but if you still support what this man peddles after these last 4 years, you're absolutely not someone I want to associate with.
 

Devilgunman

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,496
I really don't understand why some people think Trump is the reason those people are horrible. People are who they are way before Trump arrived. Trump presidency just allows them them to be unhinged and openly toxic without fear of consequences.
 

Jag

Member
Oct 26, 2017
8,216
Luckily my entire family hates Trump (even my conservative Dad. Woohoo!) So I'm ok there. I do have coworkers that are Trumpers. I have to deal with them, but I absolutely have lost any respect I had for them. That's never coming back.
 

IDontBeatGames

ThreadMarksman
Member
Oct 29, 2017
5,804
New York
Nope.

I could have made an exception if they supported him in 2016 but realized their mistake, but if you still support what this man peddles after these last 4 years, you're absolutely not someone I want to associate with.
This right here.

The people who are still supporting him now even after four years aren't gonna change or get any better as people because they still support him and his views. It's not like those views will suddenly go away as soon as he loses, odds those views will only get stronger. There's no point in wasting time try to reconcile with people who still align with his views.
 
Oct 26, 2017
6,332
Chances are you cut somebody out of your life for being a bigot more than being a Trumpet. Trump losing doesn't make them not a bigot.
 

Camjo-Z

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,321
I haven't cut anyone out of my life specifically because they support Trump - it's just that being a Trump supporter is a quick and easy way to reveal that you're a horrible, selfish person in general. Luckily I generally don't hang around with that kind of person to begin with and pretty much all of my relatives are extremely liberal, but the few Trumpers I do know aren't suddenly getting olive branches extended when nothing about them has actually changed.
 
Jul 18, 2018
4,098
The ones i've cut were friends or acquaintances. I haven't talked to them for a while now, so i'm not missing anything.
 

Yourfawthaaa

Member
Nov 2, 2017
4,394
Bronx, NY
Had a couple of people on my Facebook feed try to justify Trump's actions and announce they're not voting for Biden for bullshit reasons. They also believe in conspiracy theories.

i promptly aired these people's business out and blocked them.
 

WishIwasAwolf

Banned
Oct 24, 2020
260
A lot of them were brainwashed by the media, but there must have had to be something inside of them as well that makes them susceptible to become pro-racism. So I would say it is a lost cause.
 

T002 Tyrant

Member
Nov 8, 2018
6,408
Nah, I don't understand how people can give blood relatives a free pass compared to acquaintances and friends or even strangers. They should be treated as equally as strangers. Unless they've grown or changed fuck em.
 

Sydle

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,294
There are two types of Trump voters, the ones who wanted an anti-politician to fix things and the ones who want a bigot in office. The former made a miscalculation that Trump was going to help. The latter Trump only emboldened to show their true color and they can fuck off forever.
 

Trey

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,985
I've been fortunate enough to not need to cut anyone out of my life due to political differences.
 

The Albatross

Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,695
I never cut anybody out of my life completely who were close, but then again I'm not close with very few TRump supporters ... except for, of course, my parents. I'm not cutting my parents out of my life, though we pretty strictly don't get into political issues because I'm done suffering fools. If Trump loses they're not going to suddenly change their political opinions, their opinions are shaped by Fox News, so wherever Fox News goes, they'll go.

The closest thing I have is two friends who are just idiots. They're not Trump supporters, they're really just trolls. One of them has never voted in his life, and never will, but likes to take contrarian points of view on just about anything. I think he takes these points of view because he's very insecure and scared to commit to anything that he might be passionate about, for fear that he'll be held accountable if it doesn't work out for him.
 

Teh_Lurv

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,874
From that article:

Democratic voter Rosanna Guadagno, 49, said her brother disowned her after she refused to support Trump four years ago. Last year her mother suffered a stroke, but her brother - who lived in the same California city as her mother - did not let her know when their mother died six months later. She was told the news after three days in an email from her sister-in-law.
JFC, that's cold.
 

4CornersTHSA

Member
Jun 13, 2019
908
I’ve got family members that are true believers; mostly we just don’t talk politics. I don’t see them or interact with them on a regular basis anyway, so it’s not a big loss. I’ve managed to get through to my mom at least a bit, but my step dad worships at the alter of Rush Limbaugh. For other folks that aren’t family? I already dropped them years ago, and don’t miss a one.
 
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Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
2,279
Support for trump shows deep faults in a person(supporting bigotry, and conspiracy theories to name a few). They got to do the work to change
I am bissexual and seeing my two friends supporting Trump and Bolsonaro hurt a lot. Bolsonaro specifically called for violence against LGBT+ population. Even if they changed, I cannot see myself forgiving them because, at some point, they didn't see me as a human being.