I read it's due to the United States constitution and being almost impossible to change it, is it true or something else?Because we have a system that makes it insurmountably difficult to change it.
I read it's due to the United States constitution and being almost impossible to change it, is it true or something else?Because we have a system that makes it insurmountably difficult to change it.
I read it's due to the United States constitution and being almost impossible to change it, is it true or something else?
Yup. You need 2/3rds in both the House of Representatives and the Senate to change it. Considering that one of two political parties benefits greatly from the electoral college, you'd need 2/3rds in both chambers for dems, which is impossible due to both the electoral college and house of representatives being gerrymandered.I read it's due to the United States constitution and being almost impossible to change it, is it true or something else?
Really harsh then, I wonder how the election could go if the US had another system?
Oh, I just saw the video on Vox about Gerrymandering. Interesting stuff (And wow that happening...) Also that video about the filibuster tactic :'vYup. You need 2/3rds in both the House of Representatives and the Senate to change it. Considering that one of two political parties benefits greatly from the electoral college, you'd need 2/3rds in both chambers for dems, which is impossible due to both the electoral college and house of representatives being gerrymandered.
Even without filibustering, a constitutional amendment would require sixty six votes in the senate and 2/3rds in the House. That's a separate thing.Oh, I just saw the video on Vox about Gerrymandering. Interesting stuff (And wow that happening...) Also that video about the filibuster tactic :'v
No its more like a lot of people who are not weather experts were telling me it wasn't going to rain two times despite heavy clouds. And it is like saying again it isn't going to rain despite heavy clouds.
Yeah, but really fucking stupid people think that means 'cannot win'. Also the polls didn't even reflect Comey's 'HEY WE FOUND NEW EMAILS ON WEINER'S LAPTOP' bullshit, which was literally bullshit because they were just identical emails.The experts believed Trump was less likely to win. You can't dispute that.
The experts believed Trump was less likely to win. You can't dispute that.
And now you're adding an analysis of "heavy clouds" despite the original reasoning process being "they said it wouldn't happen last time and it did so since they're saying it won't happen again that means it will." There is no allowance for an analysis of odds anywhere in that statement.
Yeah, but really fucking stupid people think that means 'cannot win'. Also the polls didn't even reflect Comey's 'HEY WE FOUND NEW EMAILS ON WEINER'S LAPTOP' bullshit, which was literally bullshit because they were just identical emails.
The poll aggregates weren't even off. They were out of date and even then gave Trump a good chance to win.
Yeah, less likely. About 30% chance IIRC. And most of them were saying that his path to the white house was WI, PA, and MI, and chances are, if he flipped one, he'd flip the others.
That's what happened. It required a perfect storm and election interference, but it happened.
What did they get wrong, again?
I read it's due to the United States constitution and being almost impossible to change it, is it true or something else?
My god I hope you're not right. But I'm scared that you are.Basically Dems will have to have historic Obama-like turnout in every presidential election going forward to even have a chance of winning the electoral college.
This is a reasonable idea and it would indeed produce results that more closely match the electorate in each state (and make sure that there was a point in campaigning in most states). How would you round them though?The solution is changing the electoral votes in a state to be determined by the percentage of the popular vote. So if a state is 50/50 the votes are split 50/50. That doesn't require a new amendment and solves the problem of so many people's votes just not mattering in this country.
Well...There's nothing inherently wrong with having 50+ elections and adding them up. We are the United States, after all.
The problem is that the distribution of states' votes - the Electoral Votes - is completely out-of-whack. The Electoral College was designed at a time when the difference between the most populous and lease populous states was tiny, compared to what it is now.
That still doesn't work becauseThe solution is changing the electoral votes in a state to be determined by the percentage of the popular vote. So if a state is 50/50 the votes are split 50/50. That doesn't require a new amendment and solves the problem of so many people's votes just not mattering in this country.
Well...
You have to ask yourself some questions, in what you believe.
#1 Are we an actual, real country, or a patchwork of states?
#2 If we are a country, why wouldn't one man one vote be an actual real thing -in the 21st century- ?
#3 If we are a miserable pile of States, on what basis should smaller states votes count so much more (by insane ratios at this point) than votes from more populous states?
Just as a reminder for the sake of discussion, local votes already affect local politics, with state legislatures.
States also have district reps in the lower house, as well as (grossly imbalanced as well) State Senators in Congress.
I mean there's absolutely a path to getting the NPVIC (the mechanism you're talking about), it just involves sustained Democratic gains through the 2020 and 2022 elections. The base collectively needs to keep their foot on the pedal, not patting themselves on the back if we win 2020 and do fuck-all for 2022.Was listening to AL Frankens podcast and he was talking with a guy whos organization is finding a way to circumvent teh electoral college (states agree that popular winner gets all EC votes). It was nice yet sad to hear a (fomrer) politician admit most votes dont matter in our current system,
Most people like to spin that your vote matters! When really all it does is show how the popular winner doesnt always get the actual win. Doubly true if you a blue in a deep red state.
EC gotta go, One way or another