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IGN: Gears 5's perspective and tonal shifts are giving us shades of God of War's Evolution
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It's almost as though people in games development are never invited to see the current projects their peers are working on.
Which had a tepid campaign. Anyway, first it was "first-person" everything last gen, then it became "RPG elements" in everything, then it became "open world" as much as possible. Welcome to "Emotionally engaging" in everything now, regardless of whether or not the game actually benefits from it. Can't wait for the next Ninja Gaiden to get me truly invested in the characters, and inject numerous cutscenes that only exist as tear bait, even though I'll be playing it to chop people up with a sword.
It's not. Or rather, it's not in the same way they've told the previous stories anyway. They come off as so self-serious, and the seams showed so hard that it was almost parodic.
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What's funny is that I posted in that thread. I was completely oblivious to the OP intend.
i didn't see any cover-usage in that trailer.
this is an exciting thing to not see.
i found myself tiring of the heavy reliance on cover mechanics in gears 4 [although still having enough fun for sure], as it seems to restrict the variety of encounters one can create.
anyway, i'm actually quite curious about this game now, whereas before i wasn't wanting for any more gears tbqh.
this is an exciting thing to not see.
i found myself tiring of the heavy reliance on cover mechanics in gears 4 [although still having enough fun for sure], as it seems to restrict the variety of encounters one can create.
anyway, i'm actually quite curious about this game now, whereas before i wasn't wanting for any more gears tbqh.
No one said the story was bad, just not emotional. I liked Kratos but I had zero investment in him as a character, in fact I sometimes disliked him because he was a douche and not the charming douche that Nathan Drake is.
I mean I can find reviews that call Gears of War 3 emotional yet that didn't stop your opinion.
Ironic that the expansion for Uncharted did more to add to the series depth than all of the sequels combined smh
How does a game which released two months ago effect a game which has been in development for almost 2 years already?
I agree with this. I recently grinded my way through it. Incredible graphics can't disguise lacklustre gameplay.
It felt like every few minutes there was a dropship throwing down enemies.
It's more open with more freedom to approach combat sections and more additions to gameplay mechanics like meele weapons and more. No rpg elements like GOW
Please don't have a kid, please don't have a kid, please don't have a kid.
On-topic:
I enjoyed the trailer, and from what I saw it looked good. I don't really understand where the author from the article is coming from. I just hope that they don't turn Gears into another generic third-person cinematic focused game.
On-topic:
I enjoyed the trailer, and from what I saw it looked good. I don't really understand where the author from the article is coming from. I just hope that they don't turn Gears into another generic third-person cinematic focused game.
Looks different but plays the same.
It's just how the trailer was cut.
And also having a female lead for the first time.
It's just how the trailer was cut.
And also having a female lead for the first time.
It looked like any other Gears like wtf.
They act like there was never emotional stuff in Gears.
They act like there was never emotional stuff in Gears.
From the perspective of the game's story and tone, it looks like a more or less direct continuation of Gears 4 (which did introduce some welcome tonal changes), so in that respect, I have no idea where those ideas are coming from. And even if that was really the case, I don't think that it's likely that inspiration would have come from a title as recent as God of War, when we've had other successful reboots like Tomb Raider, Resident Evil of Wolfenstein just several years earlier.
However, from what we've seen and heard of the gameplay, it seems like some exciting changes are indeed happening. So basically, the complete opposite of what the OP is saying.
However, from what we've seen and heard of the gameplay, it seems like some exciting changes are indeed happening. So basically, the complete opposite of what the OP is saying.
Yeah, not seeing it, it still looked like Gears. God of War looked completely different from past God of War games.
Wait do people think that a game that has already been in development for 2 years has somehow taken inspiration from a recently released game to make major fundamental changes to the story and gameplay?
Come on son. This is silly. It didn't really look much different to gears 1-4 tonally etc.
Come on son. This is silly. It didn't really look much different to gears 1-4 tonally etc.
I really don't think the game was particularly inspired by a game that was just released, though it's entirely possible they took some hints from the way God Of War and other Sony games concentrate on character development. All I know is that this is the first time a Gears reveal looks interesting and fresh to me, every other sequel they had always felt more of the same to me when first shown. It's not necessarily a bad thing of course, but it feels like a great new direction that could change up the gameplay and narrative a bit. And those graphics, man...
We've known about God of War for 2 years. I think most are just saying it's took a similar jump to something completely different, which I don't personally see.
At most more horror focused than before, but even then, Gears always had horror elementss.
That's some top quality bullshit.
Gears 4?
4's campaign was generally well received with the main complaints being the fairly abrupt ending and that the gameplay is very familiar.
Well recived and praised are different thing dude.
TLoU was praised because of the way that the story was told, and the stellar work of the cast, the same for God of War 2018 but it wasn't ever used as an example on how to do story telling. I haven't player Gears 4 because i don't have an xbox one but with Gears 1-2-3 the focus was on the brutal and funny gameplay, for what i've seen of gears 4 it didn't give me the impression of a game that have changed in that regard.
Pretty sure I heard Rod say Tom Bissell is working on Gears 5, so that has me excited. He's a brilliant writer (check out his book Extra Lives) and has much better ingredients to work with compared to Judgment.
http://grantland.com/features/the-art-design-gears-war/
This dude gets it.
http://grantland.com/features/the-art-design-gears-war/
This dude gets it.
Come on that's just semantics, you know what I mean.
Also, the game doesn't need to be best in class to be praised.
Gears 4 has a good campaign which was rightfully praised.
It has, the writing has changed, and the way that Gears handles characters has changed a lot, which has garnered plenty of approval from some circles (I'm in this group), and also caused disapproval from hardcore Gears fans who, for some reason, preferred the old fratboy caricatures. The story of Gears 4 is noticeably more intimate, and it deals with family issues (Marcus and his son, Kait and her mom) as much as the discovery of a new threat. It was not perfect in that respect by any means, but it was a step in the right direction.
That said, I don't think that every story has to be serious and overwrought with emotions ti order to be excellent, far from it. I also think that in gaming circles banal storytelling often gets mistaken for mature and profound just because it deals with serious issues, and tugs on people's heartstrings, but that's a matter of personal experience and taste.
Agreed, cant see anything that makes me think they are doing anything dramatically different.
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The idea behind IGN's article isnt to say Gears is coping God of War, it's to show that there are some similarities with the new approach Gears is taking. No one is saying Gears is coping God of War, its idiotic to think so since Gears has been in development for a while.
The only thing IGN is doing is comparing it to something recent that has also undergone major changes from its predecessors.
Gears has tried to tackle a heavier story and personal emotions before with Gears 2, Dom looking for his wife. It didnt hit home as hard, but they have attempted before to tell a more personal story wrapped in a bigger picture. I found Marcus looking for his father had a bigger emotional impact than Dom looking for his wife because they made Marcus's father a central Pillar of Gears 3.
The reason 5 is being compared to God of War is because its also trying to tell a more personal story and rumors have the game being set in a semi open world, or at least much bigger environments then the previous Gears. If the game is truly focused on just Kat, then it will be the most personalized story of the franchise, not harping on the bigger war happening else where. The other big improvement is the scenery, we didn't get much of it, but the ice lake, the lush forest, these are things never emphasized in the previous game.
On the surface it does look like another Gears with the same gunplay, but what their E3 trailer showed me was its trying to be more than just the previous games, its trying new things and possibly being a more focused story line. I'm super excited, I enjoyed Gears 4 but thought it was so derivative, it was even more safe than Halo 4 was, so to see 5 take a new direction and a different step, it's exciting.
The only thing IGN is doing is comparing it to something recent that has also undergone major changes from its predecessors.
Gears has tried to tackle a heavier story and personal emotions before with Gears 2, Dom looking for his wife. It didnt hit home as hard, but they have attempted before to tell a more personal story wrapped in a bigger picture. I found Marcus looking for his father had a bigger emotional impact than Dom looking for his wife because they made Marcus's father a central Pillar of Gears 3.
The reason 5 is being compared to God of War is because its also trying to tell a more personal story and rumors have the game being set in a semi open world, or at least much bigger environments then the previous Gears. If the game is truly focused on just Kat, then it will be the most personalized story of the franchise, not harping on the bigger war happening else where. The other big improvement is the scenery, we didn't get much of it, but the ice lake, the lush forest, these are things never emphasized in the previous game.
On the surface it does look like another Gears with the same gunplay, but what their E3 trailer showed me was its trying to be more than just the previous games, its trying new things and possibly being a more focused story line. I'm super excited, I enjoyed Gears 4 but thought it was so derivative, it was even more safe than Halo 4 was, so to see 5 take a new direction and a different step, it's exciting.
Much more emphasis on drama compared to just mindless fighting when Gears 4 was shown.
They've sidelined the main male character and might be making him an antagonist in favour of the others.
A more intimate and personal journey storyline compared to just facing another boring threat.
Seems to have a few more slower, quiet moments.
It does but Rod Ferguson hinted Gears 5 would have open world aspects this is a change from previous games. Gears 5 looks more graphically impressive.
not really sure i see these big fundamental changes to the gears template. it still looks completely identifiable as gears of war, which god of war didn't. camera angle, gameplay, story, design principles. everything changed in god of war. gears of war 5 looks to be doing what it's always done...but now it has the potential to have a story worth paying attention to featuring characters you will more likely give a shit about...those are a first for the gears of war franchise and it's a change i approve of, but god of war this is not.
Not really what I want from a Gears of war game, the Doom reboot is a better source of inspiration. Gears story is never going to be a big pull but the combat is. Problem is this is the 6th entry in the series and it needs a refresh much like what i.d accomplished.
Yeah, while watching the trailer I thought "oh god another Gears" it feels and looks the same.
No radical change to be seen there
Funny thing is Gears was always the walking simulator type of game that some people deride endlessly, but it was still amazing despite being generally slower than most other games.
But this shows they're listening to feedback and taking risks which is good.