I'm extremely mad because in my head Astral Chain is delaying Bayonetta 3 release :(
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IGN -How Nintendo Switch Is Becoming the Best Place for New [Indie] Games
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I'm extremely mad because in my head Astral Chain is delaying Bayonetta 3 release :(
Speaking of third party. Them Japanese devs are up to something. All the switch is proving, is that there's no point in not having one as a second console/gaming device. I have a PC and a Switch and thats all the gaming machines i ever need in life.
MS focuses on indies, I'm just not sure their current audience is all that receptive towards their efforts.
I am trully LOVING how nintendo curates releases. They are doing a magnificent job of guiding consumers to superv, interesting and varied content. They deserve all the good will they get this gen, the have trully knocked it out of the park with Switch.
Yeah, screw all this trying to divide into indie game or AAA. Honestly, some of the best experiences this gen have been from smaller, independent teams. No need for the segregation.
That being said, because it's obviously fresh and who they were interviewing here, the latest Nintendo indies direct was amazing and shows what a big commitment Nintendo is making.
That being said, because it's obviously fresh and who they were interviewing here, the latest Nintendo indies direct was amazing and shows what a big commitment Nintendo is making.
Seriously, I'm over the "Indie" and "AAA" misnomers. They're all games regardless of staffing or budget size.
Many people have a really narrow view of what they will or won't play.
you didn't get all those games in the early generation. the switch is only 2 years old
I would agree, partially. It's definitely the platform I play most indie games / RPGs on, to the point where they kinda feel wrong to play on a PS4 (I don't even consider my laptop as a games machine anymore, which is kinda weird now that I think about it) lol
I use my Switch strictly as a handheld and those games lend themselves perfectly to that. However, this makes me wish the Switch was actually more of an actual portable console in the sense that it's too big and heavy to really treat it as one. I also don't like the sticks or the "d-pad" on the controllers.
Conversely, I don't even entertain the notion of playing a high precision / demanding game on the Switch whenever they do come out there (i'm sure they're fine). The Switch might as well not exist in terms of big scope AAA games for me.
Their need to quickly build up a library for people to have games to play on their console led Nintendo to open the floodgates to everyone early on, and that helped a lot of indie devs gain more visibility / income. Unfortunately, it also led to the current state of the E-shop where like 70% of the games are shovelware crap, 20% are games that came out years ago (not necessarily bad ones), and then we have the actual good new games.
But hey, devs gotta eat and i'm glad people can make a living.
I use my Switch strictly as a handheld and those games lend themselves perfectly to that. However, this makes me wish the Switch was actually more of an actual portable console in the sense that it's too big and heavy to really treat it as one. I also don't like the sticks or the "d-pad" on the controllers.
Conversely, I don't even entertain the notion of playing a high precision / demanding game on the Switch whenever they do come out there (i'm sure they're fine). The Switch might as well not exist in terms of big scope AAA games for me.
Their need to quickly build up a library for people to have games to play on their console led Nintendo to open the floodgates to everyone early on, and that helped a lot of indie devs gain more visibility / income. Unfortunately, it also led to the current state of the E-shop where like 70% of the games are shovelware crap, 20% are games that came out years ago (not necessarily bad ones), and then we have the actual good new games.
But hey, devs gotta eat and i'm glad people can make a living.
I have exclusively been playing my Switch lately besides League of Legends.
Baba is You, Minit, Wargroove, Iconoclasts. I haven't felt a pull towards flashier games in a while. I think graphically intensive games normally stress me out, the only ones I have really played and enjoyed in the last few generations are the Uncharted games, even then I had my struggles with those games.
Edit: I did enjoy the recent Wolfenstein games as well, looking through my history from the past two years.
I had to look what I have bought in the past two years dating back to January 2017
3DS: 2
PC: 22 (almost all indie outside of Wolfenstein, Tales of, Cuphead)
PS4: 6
Switch: 25
Baba is You, Minit, Wargroove, Iconoclasts. I haven't felt a pull towards flashier games in a while. I think graphically intensive games normally stress me out, the only ones I have really played and enjoyed in the last few generations are the Uncharted games, even then I had my struggles with those games.
Edit: I did enjoy the recent Wolfenstein games as well, looking through my history from the past two years.
I had to look what I have bought in the past two years dating back to January 2017
3DS: 2
PC: 22 (almost all indie outside of Wolfenstein, Tales of, Cuphead)
PS4: 6
Switch: 25
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Read the actual article. It IS about indies. It just doesn't feel the need to qualify its meaning and I don't blame the author.
It won't get those games regardless.
The divide is there because it's true. Switch isn't getting all the games I want to play and chances are it never will. So it isn't the best place to play games.
I will say this is the first time since the nineties that I've been struggling to keep up with games I want to play on a nintendo home platform
I'm not discrediting the switch, I own one and really like it but there are many games I can't play and will never be able to play on the switch.
I'm getting all my indie games (that aren't hardware intensive and run well) there now instead of on Steam. Sometimes I even double dip. Conceptually, it's a great little device, and it's nice to be back to playing Nintendo's biggest releases after skipping Wii U.
Yeah, same here. I just use it much less than my PS4 because I'd rather put my time into new games like God of War, Spider-Man, and Red Dead. I personally use my Switch mainly for games I've already played, like Breath of the Wild, LA Noire, Skyrim, Mario Kart, etc.
Makes no difference to me as a consumer. And to be honest, do you think the situation will improve next gen when there's an even greater disparity in power?
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It's about becoming a welcoming and healthy place for indies.
There's a 4 minute video in the OP
I wish that were true, but unless the game is exclusive to the Switch, I don't often consider that version. Most recent example was Trials Rising. On Switch it runs at half the framerate and has greatly reduced graphical fidelity. No thank you. In the past I was buying Indies on Switch if they ran well, but I stopped doing that ever since they chose to charge me for the pleasure of backing up my game saves, a feature no one should have charge for.
As a lover of games, this distinction is completely irrelevant to me in the same way a blockbuster versus an independent production is irrelevant to a film lover.
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Astral chain was in the works before switch came out. By a different director and team.
Reality: PC is the best for indie games. Superior graphics, better performance and CHEAPER (or even free sometimes)
The Switch now reminds me of the early days of the PS4, except it's far worse. The PS4 was always getting major third party games, it wasn't ignored.
The Switch now reminds me of the early days of the PS4, except it's far worse. The PS4 was always getting major third party games, it wasn't ignored.
Exactly this. Why we draw a line in the sand over budgets makes no sense when they can provide equal or greater interest. Anyway, we're all kind of derailing the real topic.
Nah, it really isn't and it's not even close. I say this as someone who purchased 2 switches and got rid of them. Portability does not make up for worse performance from non native game(ports), worse controls, worse visuals(ports), worse audio, no party chat or system wide chat features, etc. The only advantage it has to a phone is dedicated controls but as a mobile portable device, it's even worse than my phone. I hope the rumored new switch will address many of these issues.
The discussion in this thread about indie vs AAA is pretty ridiculous. I exclusively play games on my Switch and I can even acknowledge how there is a lack of AAA games. It's simply harder to put high fidelity, big budget games on the hardware. This shouldn't even be a discussion point.
sure, it's IGN's fault that you couldn't be arsed to read the OP of a thread that you just had to get the first post in
I love the Ignore button in this forum. Such threads are great for cleaning up your whole Era experience. It almost feels like a proper forum already.
At least Nintendo is slowly losing the "only for families /casuals" stigma.
Now they're a legitimate platform again to release your game on.
Now they're a legitimate platform again to release your game on.
That's entirely a result of Switch not getting most AAA titles. And there are legitimate reasons for that in many cases (storage, performance).
Switch leads pretty much everything else though: indies, remasters, non-AAA JP stuff, retrogames, 1st party. In terms of volume it's really just missing out on the ever shrinking AAA segment.
That's not the point of this thread.
Also. Where were those titles when PS4 was 2 years old?
I do feel the distinction between indie game and non indie game usually makes sense. I find indie games tend to focus on a few genres. I wasn't too impressed with the gameplay styles in the latest Direct. I guess this is a good place to ask though, but what are the best indie games in the following categories
2D platformers (SNES style like Mario, not like Super Meat Boy)
2D Zelda style
3D platformers
Action Adventure (3D Zelda style)
Co-op games in general
2D platformers (SNES style like Mario, not like Super Meat Boy)
2D Zelda style
3D platformers
Action Adventure (3D Zelda style)
Co-op games in general
And?
Last year I couldn't play Hollow Knight, Into The Breach, Steamworld Dig 2 and many more of my GOTY picks on anything but Switch.
That's not how it works.
That's like saying 'we'll give stadia 4 generations to catch up with the PS4'.
So games take magically less time to develop for Switch than for PS4?
When did Nintendo become so easy to work with? I am old so I remember when they were a nightmare to deal with for 3rd parties. When they would get jealous of other games getting more attention, sales or acclaim.
Now they are supposedly very helpful and even more importantly take the time and effort to promote all of these small developers. The exposure that Nindies gives to these games probably even helps them on other platforms.
Now they are supposedly very helpful and even more importantly take the time and effort to promote all of these small developers. The exposure that Nindies gives to these games probably even helps them on other platforms.