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OGlol

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Jun 4, 2018
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So what happens to games that are dynamic 4k?

EDIT: nevermind, am dumb
 

CHC

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Oct 27, 2017
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That's a shame for people who will use a single display for a PC and PS5, 1440p monitor is a great middle ground for high refresh rate gaming. Some 1440p monitors can accept a 4K signal, but not all.

Seems like it would be really easy to at least implement it as an OUTPUT resolution and just let it render at whatever res it normally does, but eh who knows
 

Nooblet

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't get why Sony keeps doing this, it's not a huge thing to have support for that's going to cost a lot of money and resources. Microsoft has supported non standard resolution since Xbox days, but it isn't even about non standard resolution, just 1440P would be good and for a console that is likely to have a lot of sub 4K games it seems like a good thing to have atleast as an option.

I would've been happy playing at 1440P if it supported, now unless I get a 4K screen the console will downsample it to 1080P then the monitor will upscale it to 1440P leading to a really blurry image.
 

Dest

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That's a shame for people who will use a single display for a PC and PS5, 1440p monitor is a great middle ground for high refresh rate gaming. Some 1440p monitors can accept a 4K signal, but not all.

Seems like it would be really easy to at least implement it as an OUTPUT resolution and just let it render at whatever res it normally does, but eh who knows
I mean the Xbox One X can already do it,
 

G9man2

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That's a shame for people who will use a single display for a PC and PS5, 1440p monitor is a great middle ground for high refresh rate gaming. Some 1440p monitors can accept a 4K signal, but not all.

Seems like it would be really easy to at least implement it as an OUTPUT resolution and just let it render at whatever res it normally does, but eh who knows

I read that you would need a hdmi 2.1 gameing montior to get the 120 hz output. Not many of those out there right now.
 

LightKiosk

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Oct 27, 2017
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What a bummer but I expected it from Sony. At least I'll be able to downsample 4K->1440p with my monitor. :/
 

VirtualCloud

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Aug 3, 2018
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Lame, no clue why they don't just support 1440p I know the usage rate probably isn't high but the console should easily be able to
 

Nooblet

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but that also doesn't support 1440p natively :-/
Which was silly as shit. Pro is genuinely a 1440P console for all intent and purpose but doesn't support it. Doesn't matter if it's a fraction of people using it, if they want to they can probably support this through a software update itself.
 

Dest

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a resolution that seems pretty irrelevant for most gamers, but that should end up being expensive for PC players.
Is that their actual verbiage? I'll cancel my PS5 preorder right now if it is.
 

Stike

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't know, how many 1440p TVs do exist?

The PS5 is conceived as a console for a connection to a TV. Supporting PC displays at middle ground resolutions would be a PC thing to do (obviously Microsoft does that) but all devs would need to support that resolution as well (user interface needs to be available at native resolution to look good etc.)
 

SixelAlexiS

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We have a console for those who want to play at 1440p, it's called PS4 Pro
You don't know what are you talking about, this is about 1440p output signal like Xbox One do:

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What does this mean? If you hook up a PS5 to a 1440p monitor is the implication:
  • you only get 1080p output, upscaled by your monitor
  • you get 4k output, downsampled by the PS5 to 1440p
  • you will get no signel, as it literally won't work
If it's the former that's a travesty, if it's the middle option that's sort of what I expected to happen, if it's the latter... idk what they're smoking
 

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Quelle surprise. Sony is a TV company, they don't give a shit about resolutions their TVs don't support.

If you want a console that supports PC features like 1440p and FreeSync (PS5 only supports HDMI VRR), you gotta get the console made by the PC people.

What does this mean? If you hook up a PS5 to a 1440p monitor is the implication:
  • you only get 1080p output, upscaled by your monitor
  • you get 4k output, downsampled by the PS5 to 1440p
  • you will get no signel, as it literally won't work
If it's the former that's a travesty, if it's the middle option that's sort of what I expected to happen, if it's the latter... idk what they're smoking

On PS4 Pro it's the former. Some 1440p monitors can accept and downscale a 4K signal, but many cannot.
 

a Question

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Oct 28, 2017
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If this thing is not hard and costly to implement there gotta be some kinda reasoning or such decision.

It can be stupid suborn like "its ether 4 or 1080 no in between" or some kinda issue with their chips I guess.
 

Dunlop

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Oct 25, 2017
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I thought there was an official source last week that confirmed it did support the resolution?
 

Kickfister

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May 9, 2019
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The reason is that, I'm pretty sure anyway, Sony ties rendering modes to output resolution (it's why games would have different behavior depending on if you're outputting at 1080p or 4k, whereas microsoft's machine treats it all the same). For sony to add 1440p output, they'd effectively have to use the 4k mode or the 1080p mode, and upscale/downscale from that. So you'd be in the same boat regardless. That said, this wouldn't be a problem if they supported 1440p from the start..

Microsoft's approach is significantly smarter and way more forward looking.

But hey, at least Sony lets you fucking disable/enable HDR in-game instead of digging through system menus every time you play a game that has an ass HDR implementation.
 

Pancracio17

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What does this mean? If you hook up a PS5 to a 1440p monitor is the implication:
  • you only get 1080p output, upscaled by your monitor
  • you get 4k output, downsampled by the PS5 to 1440p
  • you will get no signel, as it literally won't work
If it's the former that's a travesty, if it's the middle option that's sort of what I expected to happen, if it's the latter... idk what they're smoking
Its the middle pretty much guaranteed. No way it doesnt work.

Edit: actually itll probably be the top one.
 
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What does this mean? If you hook up a PS5 to a 1440p monitor is the implication:
  • you only get 1080p output, upscaled by your monitor

Yeah it be 1080p on a 1440p monitor, there is some 1440p monitors where it registers as 4k on ps4 pro and just downsamples from 4k to 1440p on that. Though even then it can still be blurry.
 

Transistor

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uh..why? 1440 would be a nice middleground I think between performance and visuals
Games can still render at 1440p, they'll just output at 1080p (downscaled) or 4k (upscaled).

This affects people with 1440p monitors who want to use that as an output. 1080p looks like garbage on a 1440p monitor and only some support downsampling from 4k to 1440p.
 

AllBizness

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I don't think Sony cares much as most TV's are 1080p or 4k. Only monitors are 1440p and almost noone plays on a monitor.
 

Atolm

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I don't buy TVs since I game in my room and I don't want anything bigger than 27". PS5 will have to wait for me since 4k monitors with VRR are still very expensive or non-existant. Their loss.
 

catboy

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Oct 25, 2017
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not surprising if true, they didn't bother with ps4 pro either and there was the whole no supersampling at launch thing.