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IGN removes their Dead Cells Review, investigating plagiarism. (Update: Writer Responds)

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Nov 1, 2017
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Just saw the Jim Sterling video and man oh man... what a bad video.
He is describing the whole situation like IGN, as like the entity are just lazy and don't know or don't care what they are doing
and it's all their fault and not the one of some idividual
It's not a super great video, but he actually does specifically say that IGN as a whole are not responsible. He's been a review editor twice, so kind of interesting to hear that angle.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Just saw the Jim Sterling video and man oh man... what a bad video.
He is describing the whole situation like IGN, as like the entity are just lazy and don't know or don't care what they are doing
and it's all their fault and not the one of some idividual
That’s a take I keep seeing. Clearly IGN, the biggest Games media site for like 20 years, isn’t stupid enough to do this as an entire company. It was one person which sadly reflects badly on IGN and the rest of games media as a whole.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Why is it untenable? Natural language processing is a real thing (I work with Watson technology at my job). YT, for example, has tools that can comb through its entire library of videos for content that violates its TOS. Are you saying it's impossible for a program to take IGN's written review, cross-references it with all of YT's videos, and identify videos where the speech pattern, sentence structure, etc appear to be similar? I'm not saying it'll be 100% accurate, but you don't think it can even generate potential matches?
Can't image IGN investing in developing and implementing such tech just to catch one guy.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Why is it untenable? Natural language processing is a real thing (I work with Watson technology at my job). YT, for example, has tools that can comb through its entire library of videos for content that violates its TOS. Are you saying it's impossible for a program to take IGN's written review, cross-references it with all of YT's videos, and identify videos where the speech pattern, sentence structure, etc appear to be similar? I'm not saying it'll be 100% accurate, but you don't think it can even generate potential matches?
You work with Watson, the smartest, most powerful computer ever created. IGN does not. Can it be done by someone? Probably. Just doesn’t sound super easy nor feasible.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Why is it untenable? Natural language processing is a real thing (I work with Watson technology at my job). YT, for example, has tools that can comb through its entire library of videos for content that violates its TOS. Are you saying it's impossible for a program to take IGN's written review, cross-references it with all of YT's videos, and identify videos where the speech pattern, sentence structure, etc appear to be similar? I'm not saying it'll be 100% accurate, but you don't think it can even generate potential matches?
It's absolutely absurd. There are terabytes of video uploaded to YouTube every day. The processing power required to keep such a database up to date, let alone the storage, is staggering. In addition, you are suggesting that a machine can interpret "speech pattern" and "sentence structure" as if those are objective data points. They aren't, and a machine can't discern them.

It's a nice theoretical thought exercise but it's not a realistic thing.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Makes you wonder if he's done this with his Dead Cells review, how many other people's work has he plagiarized? Has there been any light shed on that at all?
I’m sure that is part of the investigation, and any confirmed or suspected plagiarized content will be identified and reported as such.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Regarding the mod edit in the OP, is it considered "petty reasons" when something like this happens and people blast IGN as a whole for it? Legitimate question, I'd like to know what the stance is on petty versus completely valid and reasonable.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's clear Filip loves the game, is great at the game, and I even believe his score of 9.7
Not questioning his gaming creds or love of Nintendo at all.

It's just the laziness or sucking at writing that got him into this.
 
Oct 25, 2017
1,365
NYC
It's absolutely absurd. There are terabytes of video uploaded to YouTube every day. The processing power required to keep such a database up to date, let alone the storage, is staggering. In addition, you are suggesting that a machine can interpret "speech pattern" and "sentence structure" as if those are objective data points. They aren't, and a machine can't discern them.

It's a nice theoretical thought exercise but it's not a realistic thing.
Natural Language processing is actually a real thing. Watson has come a long way since the world first saw it on Jeopardy. The great thing about NLP is that it doesn't require objective data points. The ever-learning AI is able to interpret and analyze normal human speech. I'm constantly impressed by it every day at my job.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Natural Language processing is actually a real thing. Watson has come a long way since the world first saw it on Jeopardy. The great thing about NLT is that it doesn't require objective data points. The ever-learning AI is able to interpret and analyze normal human speech. I'm constantly impressed by it every day at my job.
Automated subtitles are not going to solve this problem.
 
Jan 10, 2018
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Well Filips gone. Wonder who takes over for Filip in NVC...will they even mention Filip? Guess they have to but the comments will be not something to look at unless you enjoy meltdowns.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Can someone explain why IGN chose the Nintendo editor to review a game like Dead Cells in the first place because it doesn't seem like the obvious choice to make. What other games has Filip reviewed for IGN so far? From what I had seen it has only been Nintendo exclusives and late Switch ports of big third party games. If that is indeed the case why give a multiplatform rogue like to a guy like Filip? It makes me think he could have requested it or is seen as adept at this kind of genre? Which makes it all the more strange that he would plagiarise his review. Granted I have no idea how people are chosen to review games at IGN but it just comes off as odd to me.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Can someone explain why IGN chose the Nintendo editor to review a game like Dead Cells in the first place because it doesn't seem like the obvious choice to make. What other games has Filip reviewed for IGN so far? From what I had seen it has only been Nintendo exclusives and late Switch ports of big third party games. If that is indeed the case why give a multiplatform rogue like to a guy like Filip? It makes me think he could have requested it or is seen as adept at this kind of genre? Which makes it all the more strange that he would plagiarise his review. Granted I have no idea how people are chosen to review games at IGN but it just comes off as odd to me.
What kind of answer are you expecting for this. Him being chosen for this review isn't even strange.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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It's clear Filip loves the game, is great at the game, and I even believe his score of 9.7
Not questioning his gaming creds or love of Nintendo at all.

It's just the laziness or sucking at writing that got him into this.
You see, he loves the game too much to even put it down and write a review.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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IGN did the right thing, that evidence was pretty damning and I'm guessing Filip's response to them was not sufficient to defend it. A terrible situation all around.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I imagine Peer might step in to guest-host again. Or maybe they give NVC the week off.
Not with a Smash Direct coming up, no one died. They'll open with an apology and then they'll have an awkward show amongst the exciting news that Goku was confirmed for Smash.

What's the likelihood they cancel this week's NVC to let this blow over a little?
0%
I'll gladly eat crow if I'm wrong about that. News doesn't stop.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Totally unsurprising that Filip has been fires but I’m still amazed that he did this... it shows an incredible lack of awareness and maturity.

I’ve seen most of his content since he was hired at IGN and he doesn’t come across as somebody morally-questionable (although wtf knows) so my guess is that he lacked the intelligence to realise how much of a faux pas plagiarism is?
 
Oct 27, 2017
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When Filip came on board I decided I no longer had any real connection to the site and just stopped listening/reading anything coming from IGN. I guess, it was a good time to abandon ship. Crazy times.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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What kind of answer are you expecting for this. Him being chosen for this review isn't even strange.
Is it not? Just doesn't seem like the kind of game the head Nintendo editor would review. There's only two possible answers to expect really. The first is that actually it is in line with the kind of reviews he has done in the past or it isn't but there's nothing currently to explain why he was chosen and it is indeed strange.
 
Jun 6, 2018
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Regarding the mod edit in the OP, is it considered "petty reasons" when something like this happens and people blast IGN as a whole for it? Legitimate question, I'd like to know what the stance is on petty versus completely valid and reasonable.
I feel you are focusing on the wrong section:
The same goes for people who are covering the video games industry: vilifying an entire media outlet for any reason is typically unhelpful. It is crucial to understand that these people share a similar high passion for this hobby as you do and try their best to do their jobs.
The point is not to vilify the entirety of IGN for what was presumably the actions of a single individual, an action that IGN actually took to investigating straight away.
 
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