It could have been stated in a way that didn't seemingly shit on Filip's previous efforts.
The plagiarism matter isn't an internal matter; most everything else is, and the quality of Filip's other first drafts are none of our concern.
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IGN removes their Dead Cells Review, investigating plagiarism. (Update: Writer Responds)
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It could have been stated in a way that didn't seemingly shit on Filip's previous efforts.
The plagiarism matter isn't an internal matter; most everything else is, and the quality of Filip's other first drafts are none of our concern.
He'll never live it down with the public and while he deserved to be fired and deserves to never work in journalism again, I still feel bad for his future, because damn.
He could have emphasized the inevitability of this kind of thing slipping through the cracks in a different way, but I'm sure IGN also feels they owe the public an understanding of their perspective and I'm trying to take into account the mindset of the frustrated staff taking the brunt of all of this when I read comments like that.
Just a bad situation and a shame all around. I do think enough has been said to discredit / demean Filip - so I'm on the same page in that respect.
Dude, no, don't think such things, please.
Perhaps your videos aren't getting as many clicks as other really cheaply made videos, but from a long-term perspective, your content is effing gold.
I expect people to come back at your videos years down the line because they are really well made and timeless, in the same way that documentaries are. I know the numbers may not be up to your expectations at first, but your contribution isn't to be taken lightly if you ask me, if you wouldn't be there to make such detailed and well explained videos, perhaps no one could fill that gap.
I see your content as a timeless contribution to gaming history, you're not doing this for nothing. :)
Count on me to show your content to the future child that I don't have yet.
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Agreed. The quality of your videos will hold up much, much more over the test of time. I hear your frustration - but the mindless garbage will always win in initial views & clicks. Please don't let that discourage you (I know it's much easier said than done).
Dan Stapleton twitter has a picture of the definition of the word "review", with highlighted "someones opinion". Must be pissed.
This is very true. Digital Foundry is creating unparalleled gaming documentaries of this particular nature which will form part of video game history. The long-term pay-off is definitely there. These are invaluable, well-researched assets and truly exceptional, cream of the crop video content.
Wasn't yesterday supposed to be a new NVC recorded live and released by now to podcast services? Did they do it?
I though IGN started airing their shows and podcast a day earlier on IGN before releasing them on other platforms.
Yes that's what I'm asking. I thought NVCs were on thursdays live on the site and released on Fridays on podcast services. Did I get that wrong?
All Dan said was that it seemed better than his usual first drafts. If it's the truth what's wrong with what he said? Was it a little jab? Maybe. But honestly nothing people should get worked up over, but since people want to hang onto this drama and carry it as far as they can, we've begun to nitpick the smallest shit and make mountains out of molehills.
Not to mention the amount of garbage the IGN staff now have to deal with as a result of Filips review, I feel like I'd be more inclined to take the piss out of the guy than not.
That is how I interpreted it. I am an editor for a gaming website myself and I have seen writers turn in plagiarized work (they are no longer with us) and I have seen our own original work plagiarized by others.
It can be notoriously difficult to catch plagiarism. There are tools we can use but some instances of plagiarism can be far more subtle than what this guy did. In hindsight the fact that the Dead Cells review was apparently a massive leap in quality for this particular writer should have been a red flag but I don't blame the editor for missing it. Editors deal with multiple writers and several drafts of each article and it is impossible to know the phrasing of every other review for the same game - especially video reviews.
I thought it was recording Thursday, on IGN Friday and Youtube on Saturday. I know that NVC used to be appear on Youtube Friday's but that was before the policy change. I think last week is didn't show up until Saturday afternoon if I remember correctly.
Very well said. I feel bad but the recidivist nature of Filip's activities...just makes it even worse. This appears to be a serial issue with him. That being said, I hope the internet hate doesn't completely ruin his mental state. He got fired, he deserved it - hopefully he can move on and better himself/have a decent career in another field moving forward.
Honestly, I don't even think it was that thinly veiled, and I am genuinely surprised some people are having trouble comprehending that he is further insulting Filip, here. This just gives me even more credence that Dan Stapleton is not a nice person (trying not to be too inflammatory here) and just seems like an all around bully/egomaniac. Dan's occassional presence alone is almost enough to make me want to not listen to/watch Game Scoop, even though I otherwise love the podcast.
Although I grudgingly agree that Dan/another editor could not have caught this, I hate having to side with him on anything. And about that whole hours logged thing/defense - I wish someone had been able to try and verify Dan's play time of Bloodborne before he wrote his "opinion piece" on the game (note I know that it wasn't a review and this is written equally in parts jest and frustration). It's fine and well for him to not like the game, but to write factually incorrect things just seems like he barely played it and made him even more unlikable to me. He's often pretty insulting in the IGN comments sections from what I recall, too.
In my eyes, having someone like him writing that piece is just as bad as ruining the credibility of a website as the Filip situation, if not even worse.
Your hate boner for Dan is blocking everything wrong with this statement. Jesus Christ.
I get why you don't like him, but really?
Did they mention this debacle at all? Peer isn't even in the country right now.
Very quickly. Basically said "hey were sure you've heard ign has parted ways with filip and if you want to know more about that then go to ign.com. But you're our fans and where for you so let's get into the games."
I think a gaming journalism site writing pieces that are factually inaccurate due to low quality effort puts a horrendous strain on their credibility. I personally haven't read anything from Stapleton, since. I mean the or worse part is hyperbolic, but if I hadn't been going to IGN for years beforehand, and saw these things happen side by side in a similar time frame, I'd consider them fairly equal in my view of the site's credibility.
Edited for completion of thought: I'm not trying to hide the fact that I dislike Dan and I've tried to detail why. Admittedly, I'm pretty upset by what he wrote and as usual, he's just found yet another way to make me angry - Filip's already been fired. Why kick him when he's already down?
I feel ya. Many things in life boil down to popularity contests.
It's why I get turned off certain games (or movies, whatever) sometimes if they're super mainstream or people just won't shut up about them. And I hate looking like someone who just follows trends.
The lesser known things are important too.
I completely relate as an artist who feels super under appreciated.
Keep doing what you're doing. Your content is fantastic and you need to be proud of it. You have many fans.
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I tried doing elaborate video editing pieces in the past only for them to be practically ignored compared to a measly music rip or no-commentary game recording.
Also tried many of the things Twitch streamers do for attention only to not really get much attention on Twitch.
YouTube is just... like that.
Oh my.
Feel bad for him, but he knew better. He deserved to be fired. Hope he lands on his feet somehow.
-> Takes responsibility, says it's his fault
-> Tries to look at everything and multiple resources before finishing a review
-> Not intentional
-> Says please don't swarm IGN, blame him
-> Apologies to Dead Cell developers
-> Apologies to Boom Stick edit: does not apologize to boom stick but wishes him well and success
-> Calls out Kotaku and Jason, says he did not copy FIFA review, says ultimately you (the audience) be the judge
-> Says he wasn't a fan of the harassment. People went after not only him, but his family and talked shit to them on their social media accounts.
-> Says thank you for the support, its been a nightmare, he's hopeful for the future
-> Says its his fault, he'll work hard to earn back our trust
-> Truth is he's in this industry because he loves video games and making content
-> Thank you for your time.
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That "I really hope I get to see you guys again" at the end sounded eerily ominous, especially after him saying he's had a nightmare of a week thanks to the internet hate mob/Schreier.
I don't mean to be a cynical douche and kick the guy while he's down but...
I really hated him on NVC, couldn't even stand his voice...
Ha! He even copied that!
I really hated him on NVC, couldn't even stand his voice...
Ha! He even copied that!
I don't know if he is a nice person or not (I turned off from IGN a long long long time ago) but i do agree that his insults are very petty, unnecessary and try hard. He makes IGN look even worse, but again, these are also the actions of only one person so....
I winced so hard just looking at that thumbnail. So the fair summary was appreciated.
I think he said as much about the events as he is legally allowed. I wish him all the best, if you are following this thread, Filip, good luck with everything!
What drives someone to go after these peoples families. I get wanting to be self righteous, I get wanting to play internet detective, I get wanting to be a part of this (not that any of that is normal, but I can at least connect the dots there), but by the time you're typing to his family on their social media, what are you getting from that? Do you think you're doing a good thing? Who is that helping? What's going through your head?
Yeah, that's too much, completely unnecesary, almost a pathological behaviour. The guy made a huge mistake, he was bad at his job and that it's something that can happen to all of us, but that's it.
I don't know why people thought they were gonna skip the show this week. No one died and it's fucking Smash Bros., which had a great Direct.
I didn't know they existed. I came across the other 2 just by chance and quickly watched most of their videos that seemed interesting to me. I will check out NoClip, too. Although, at a quick glance their views seem much lower than either of the channels I mentioned (10k-100k versus half a million or more).
The subtweets from industry people on my feed in response to the video are hilarious. Basically summed up as "This motherfucker ..."
If he stick with games, he could only go independent because these people are maaad. Understandably so.
If he stick with games, he could only go independent because these people are maaad. Understandably so.
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