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Hateful garbage? I must be missing something. The comments calling for him to be fired are pretty dumb imo, but is that really "hateful garbage"?
I think you need to reel it in a bit.
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IGN retracts large portion of RE2 review and updates score after it becomes clear their reviewer missed a large chunk of the game.
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I think you need to reel it in a bit.
I'm not sure about myself but you sure sound like an adult right now.
Anyone who's angry is just being hateful don't you know?
Don't go around accusing people of working for IGN because you're acting like a fucking child.
Grow up, and get the fuck over it.
Calm down, you sound way more aggressive and angry than the ''hateful'' people you are talking about.
Saying fuck all the time doesn't make you more righteous.
It's something about the really stupid cunts that brings my colorful vocabulary out.
Really? That's how you gonna act like? How are you any less toxic than the people you are accusing?
I am not talking about you guys, I'm talking about wensites like IGN. If you listened to some of their podcast you'd know IGN people treat 100% like it's some impossible task.
Don't even get me started on the 720p vs 1080p shit from podcast Unlocked
What normal people see:
What IGN see:
What normal people see:
What IGN see:
Did you apply for a job at IGN and get rejected or something
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What hateful garbage in the last few pages? receipts please.
Who is calling for blood? I think the biggest problem this thread has is people reading the title, seeing the page count, and then coming in and talking to themselves.
Yup. Your fake outrage over a review is worth nothing more.
Look at a mirror mate, you are the most toxic guy in here right now.
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Can anyone actually point out any hateful gamergator posts in here? I'm honestly wondering, I've only been intermittently following the thread. I feel like for every one actual bonehead calling for Daemon to be fired, there are at least 10 more pearl-clutching moralists decrying the senseless outrage and pleading for everyone to leave IGN alone.
I'm happy to admit I'm wrong, if there has been some actual hate message here, but I haven't seen any yet.
I'm happy to admit I'm wrong, if there has been some actual hate message here, but I haven't seen any yet.
Nah, I'm just sick of their bullshit, they have been very unprofessional for the last few years and it's causing developers a great deal of distress.
I wouldn't even care if IGN is just some small name gaming site, but they are literally the biggest video game media outlet on the planet.
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Yeah sorry about that, IGN pissed me off about as much as I pissed Grimminski off.
Was I overreacting a bit? Absolutely. Will I ever change my mind about IGN? Probably not.
All I can say is IGN can do a lot better than this. They really don't deserve their current spot in the industry in my opinion.
That keeps on giving ill informed self righteous hot takes no one cares about. It should probably just be closed at this point, if only to keep more people from embarrassing themselves.
I think the problem is the discussion is basically over; the writer messed up, apologized and edited accordingly (or tried to), and we all learned a lesson about double checking your work. But it's just gone on and on and on.
And the longer it goes in the more personally people take the arguments in this thread. It's really weird. IGN doesn't need to be defended and neither does the multi billion dollar corporation about to release a sure fire hit.
Jesus. What's wrong with this guy.
Seek help blade wolf. No one should be this obsessed with anything.
I'd argue that IGN, Polygon, and Gamespot all giving it under a 6 affected sales. The best horror game ever made. Sub-6.
It's definitely my biggest gripe when it comes to the game industry, they've done a great job making video game journalism look bad.
Yes it does make me angry, and sometimes I do get obsessed wit them. I apologize folks. IGN just get on my nerve
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I will be less angry and more rational with my criticism towards IGN going forward. I'm not proud of my angry posts either.
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Yeah that makes sense. The thread is sort of collapsing in on itself.
Doubtful, Aliens Colonial Marines made sure it never got a chance.
Hey no offence but what are you actually talking about?newmoneytrash Oh and may I have you take another look at this:
So the first half of what you linked to reads like he started up 2nd Run and ran through what he could, mentioning what he found to be different.
Then the second half is taken straight from his initial mistaken review, so how could he have known that "Resident Evil 2 will be largely the same when you finish and switch to the other person's 2nd Game mode. Leon and Claire take extremely similar paths, meet most of the same people, solve most of the same puzzles, and fight most of the same bosses", by the time he wrote this he hadn't played through any B route so how did he know that?
It says the paragraph is inaccurate and is being revised yet it ended up mostly intact in the update, so he predicted what he would have a problem with in his future previously unknown attempt to rereview the game?
Or did he just quickly pretend to go through what he missed once it was brought to his attention, keeping the same criticisms of something he hadn't played yet?... Or as I said before spreading misinformation about the game to cover up his mistake?
Anyone feel free to jump on this, I'm sure someone can explain this better than I can.
They paragraph *was* revised, and it now reflects how he felt about the game. You have absolutely no justification that he didn't play any of the game and is just pretending, especially when the revised review reflects that he did. You're just making up any claims to fit your narrative. There is no reason to assume he didn't play the game.
For someone who seems to be so concerned with the spreading of misinformation and says that don't care at all about IGN you seem to be making up *a lot* of shit about the reviewer to justify your anger at something that was fixed before you even knew about it.
LMAO. Holy shit. Did IGN murder his family or something?
I mean damn
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I'm sorry that self explanatory post was apparently too much for you. It seems I've been EXPOSED as an IGN HATER on a DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN against this poor reviewer.
Please keep calling out this misguided rabid crusade. Looks like I'll get to try that ignore feature I keep hearing about.
Keep up the good fight, bless.
Holy fucking shit, this is some mad shade. This is the sort of post that will be linked on a reddit thread eight years from now when someone asks about what babies gamers can be when given unrestricted access to a keyboard.
The reviewer played both A stories for both characters instead of playing the B story second due to some confusing menu labels. He put the review up saying that there wasn't much difference between the two. People pointed out he didn't play the B campaign, so those sections were briefly crossed out of the review while he played through it, and IGN admitted the mistake and amended the review and the score.
You post was self explanatory in how full of conjecture it was, that's about it. Multiple people in this thread have tried to tell you how you aren't viewing this fairly, and every time you have dug in your heels to needlessly try and slander the reviewer for """obviously""" pretending to play large parts of the game.
It's not my fault a mod just quoted it directly in the OP; I was hoping for a mod post/edit actually addressing the misinformation.
At the end of the game, it says you unlocked a "second run" scenario where things change and there's a new ending. He reasonably assumed that it was describing a second scenario for the same character he'd just played the story of, because when someone tells you "in this second scenario we've changed things", you expect it to be in comparison to what you already experienced, right? And, like, it's the second, so... what you just played now was the first. And you want to see both regular, first scenarios before you play this changed second scenario for either... so he went and played the first scenario version of Claire's story.
But, surprise, the "2nd run scenario" is actually a changed story for the other character. Nowhere on that screen or the main menu does it say that or explain how it works. And - for some bizarre reason - Capcom even said in advance that this didn't have scenarios that changed depending on the order like the original did.
Gamergate didn't just stop at sexist harassment, and it still exists in various forms.
A lot of the vilifying of journalism, the petty hatred and conspiracy theories, that kind of shit in this thread is at the very least bordering on their rhetoric.
GG is a hate group, they say they want ethics in journalism but they were really just there to attack women and minorities and keeping the hobby for straight white dudes. What does any of that have to do with Daemon.
newmoneytrash was close but not perfect. He did also play (some of) Leon's B scenario. He just mistakenly repeated his misunderstanding in the review- that you had to play the A scenario of a character to unlock the B ("2nd run") scenario for the same character. In realty it unlocks it for the other character.
lol
"If only to keep more people from embarrassing themselves", says the person who's repeatedly posted conspiracy theories. And is now posting outright spam when people question that. Nice.
Hot takes? Are you for real? I've read every word of this thread and stand by every word of my post.
So criticism of this reviewer is akin to conspiracy theories and gamergate rhetoric, I didn't know this was an exalted person by some people here, I honestly don't know anything about him, maybe that's why he can't be criticized...
And it's beyond offensive you compare criticism of a self admittedly wrong and incomplete review to what gamergate did to people. You're disgusting.
Yeah, people are getting nasty in here, yikes.
It's a bit surprising to see how IGN can elicit such a strong response from people like this. What I think about this whole situation is just it's a bit silly and not a big deal, but people actually arguing with full emotional force for something like he should be fired, IGN must be purged, etc etc, woah.
It's a bit surprising to see how IGN can elicit such a strong response from people like this. What I think about this whole situation is just it's a bit silly and not a big deal, but people actually arguing with full emotional force for something like he should be fired, IGN must be purged, etc etc, woah.
This is the part that seems weird to me. I don't see why anyone would do that.
Also, the game specifically tells you upon completion to play the 2nd Run, yet he decided to just select regular New Game instead.
God damn. Deserved call out. Dude's been shit posting for a while.
When did I say you, in particular, were like a gamergater?
Honestly, you have to be a troll at this point. Multiple people, me included, have explained why your stance on the edited review is ridiculous. Do you think this stuff "~whoo he must be special~" nonsense is even close to some sort of actual argument?
Because he thought it was Leon's 2nd run. He did not think he had access to Claire's 2nd run. That's the key bit.
Between:
1. Immediately playing Leon's scenario again, with a new ending and some changes.
2. Playing Claire's scenario.
He picked option 2.
Hell after the Ace Combat 7 review and now the Resident Evil 2 remake review, both within the same month, makes you wonder how much pressure these guys are under to get reviews out.
*chef kiss*
Thanks, you made my night. Man this thread is a riot.
Imagine if you made a mistake at work and got countless people harassing you on Twitter, a 37 page thread on a message board and countless 10:05 videos talking about that mistake.
There are times when this is valid. Sexual harassment, plagiarism, etc. Daemon made a mistake and corrected it. Everything will be okay. The game will still sell well.
Resetera's hivemind mentality is fine with things like social politics. A left-leaning forum is good. No discrimination or bigotry. But the hivemind hurts with issues like this. Resetera hates IGN, so any excuse to tear them down will be taken happily, and those who disagree will be dogpiled.
It doesn't help that after listening to Game Scoop and Knockin' Boots (Daemon's old relationship advice podcast), Daemon is a truly passionate and kind-hearted person.
This dogpiling sucks. It reminds me of when I would be picked on in high school and other kids would jump in just because they could.
Be the change you want to see in the world. Let's be better to each other. It's a video game. It's 0.2 points. It'll be okay. Promise.
There are times when this is valid. Sexual harassment, plagiarism, etc. Daemon made a mistake and corrected it. Everything will be okay. The game will still sell well.
Resetera's hivemind mentality is fine with things like social politics. A left-leaning forum is good. No discrimination or bigotry. But the hivemind hurts with issues like this. Resetera hates IGN, so any excuse to tear them down will be taken happily, and those who disagree will be dogpiled.
It doesn't help that after listening to Game Scoop and Knockin' Boots (Daemon's old relationship advice podcast), Daemon is a truly passionate and kind-hearted person.
This dogpiling sucks. It reminds me of when I would be picked on in high school and other kids would jump in just because they could.
Be the change you want to see in the world. Let's be better to each other. It's a video game. It's 0.2 points. It'll be okay. Promise.
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