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IGN shows off an atrocious sneak peek of the new Aladdin movie on Twitter (about a minute of the Prince Ali song)
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This clip is a decent litmus test for people's ears....that has to be one of the worst sung professional productions I've heard from a Hollywood film (barring Les Miserables lol)
How did any of the sound/music production team sign off on that
If it sounds fine to you, you might want to get your ears checked hehe
How did any of the sound/music production team sign off on that
If it sounds fine to you, you might want to get your ears checked hehe
Williams is not a better singer than Smith. Listen again to the original Prince Ali, they cover his lines heavily with background singers to cover for his lack of singing range.
The overall production and song is great, but Williams isn't carrying the song. This new version seems to be more heavy on Smith, though the clip does have its issues with him sounded a bit muted.
Yeah I felt that way about the Beauty and the Beast songs too. I thought it might be because actors can't move as fast as animations. And because my nostalgia is informing me of the "real" tempo of the song, it feels even slower.
... I thought the clip picked up a bit at the end when they busted out the camels and peacocks.
Wow, that really does improve it. The other issues are still there (autotune, bad singing), but they're mitigated by the increased tempo and it has the energy that everyone here says is lacking.
So, the question is: why did they go with a slower tempo?
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This is a fair point in favor of the remake. I just wish it had more going on!
Yeah it still has problems but I can't believe how just going a bit faster makes it so much better . Crazy
It isn't a slower tempo. It's the original film's tempo.
But, yes, a faster tempo works better for this clip especially.
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I was curious, but going directly from one to the other I do think the clip is still slightly slower. It's not helped by the heavy drumbeat, which gives it a more leisurely feel -- the percussion is actually pretty light in the original, which means that the jaunty backing horns provide most of the feel of the tempo. I think that even after the first couple verses the tempo's increased in the original, too (I'd say we've got like an extra 10-15 BPM by the time we get to 'adjust your veil and prepare' from the first 'ali ababwa' but I haven't timed it out to compare) -- and Williams madcap antics are definitely trying to push the tempo even before everything picks up.
Ironically I think Smith's background as a rapper is hurting him here because he's actually on-the-beat -- so it doesn't feel like he's got the eager pace that Williams did. The delivery of "now try your best to stay calm" is noticeably different -- Williams is anticipating the downbeat on "calm" so much so that it feels like it's happening like half a beat before it should in comparison to where Smith puts it. Even if the songs have no difference in tempo that's a significant change in feel, and I'm not surprised that a 25% difference in tempo for Smith's performance brings back that feel even if you measure out the BPM to be the same.
You mean you don't like the tried and true "that lyric has swords in it how about he takes out some swords while he says the line?" approach?
This is it. Is Will Smith even having fun?
They needed to change the song up to appeal to his strengths as a performer (especially since he had a music career) and instead it's a half hearted imitation of the original
Behind-the-scenes trailer
I think I figured out what's bothering me, when they have the wide CGI shots the sets look fine, but when it's the real sets everything looks too....small? Like walls and towers in Agrabah look like 15 feet high, it makes it look like a cheap high school set. There's no sense of scale when it's the physical sets so it looks a bit paltry.
The set looks terrible and wtf is up with the lighting? Some shots have sunlight with crisp shadows and then it looks weirdly foggy in others.
I feel like Aladdin is a good counter-argument for the whole Black Panther "make everybody speak English with an accent" thing. Imagine if Will Smith was trying to fake an accent the same way Forrest Whitaker does.
Not sold on this one either. Maybe I'm just not liking the guy playing the Genie here.
Fuck.
Why'd you do this to me?
Now I want Jack Black as the Genie so bad.
Disney's Genie having an accent just seems antithetical to the character. Like Robin Williams version he's supposed to be a cosmic being out of time. All the contemporary references he makes would sound weird if he tried to sound more authentic to the region/time period.
Okay, well imagine the cartoon Aladdin movie having everybody speak with a fake accent.
I'm pretty down on this remake, but I'm still hoping for something that's alright at least. The best part of Aladdin, the songs, are probably all going to be worse than either the animated movie or the Broadway show, but whatcha gonna do.
This is basically off-topic, but in general I prefer the way Aladdin does it. It's a massive pet peeve of mine when I hear characters speaking English with some thick accent when they're actually meant to be speaking a completely different language (like the Wakandans when they're in Wakanda). It's just dumb shit that makes no sense, there's zero reason to give them an accent.
It doesn't sound anything like the Broadway version.
This is basically off-topic, but in general I prefer the way Aladdin does it. It's a massive pet peeve of mine when I hear characters speaking English with some thick accent when they're actually meant to be speaking a completely different language (like the Wakandans when they're in Wakanda). It's just dumb shit that makes no sense, there's zero reason to give them an accent.
It doesn't sound anything like the Broadway version.
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Idk, I think people were gonna hate it regardless. There is some kind of backlash to the live action Disney flicks at least from what I see on here, even Lion King isn't safe, don't remember how Jungle Book was received here.
Jungle book was very well received by everyone dude. It holds a 90+% on RT as well. JB (and LK) looked amazing, Aladdin doesn't.
I would think, hypothetically, it would be the opposite. More popularity = more people who want to see something. It's just Aladdin botched its execution pretty badly, but we'll see, maybe people turn out in spite of that.
Yeah you know what... Chris Tucker would have been awesome as GenieI don't get it, why is it like they are holding back all the razzle dazzle? The magic, the pop, the spectacle of the Genie is just missing here.
Will needs to put more power behind his voice, he needs to be more eccentric, electric, he needs to be
Holy crap, watching it at 1.25 speed actually makes it much more decent!!!! LOL
A fine middle is watching it at custom speed, 1.15, which feels a bit more accurate.
I'm shocked bringing up the tempo makes it this much better.
Have we heard what Alan Tudyk sounds like as Iago yet?
I'm really surprised they didn't bring back Gottfried to have that connection to the original, similar to James Earl Jones returning for Lion King, since they obviously couldn't do that with Robin Williams.
I'm really surprised they didn't bring back Gottfried to have that connection to the original, similar to James Earl Jones returning for Lion King, since they obviously couldn't do that with Robin Williams.
Actually, real honest, it makes it sound actually great. Holy shit.
