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I'm ashamed of playing Final Fantasy XV near my girlfriend
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I love that Tabata even stated that she wasn't designed to be sexy. What was it he said?
I think that was it (Source: http://gearnuke.com/final-fantasy-xv-director-reveals-players-complained-cindy-sexy/ )
I think that was it (Source: http://gearnuke.com/final-fantasy-xv-director-reveals-players-complained-cindy-sexy/ )
Okay you're probably being sarcastic/an asshole but the camera doesn't give you a full body view of Gladio, it doesn't oogle his chest/ass/crotch while he's washing your car. So not even remotely comparable, nice try though.
He didn't say he was ashamed of himself, he is saying that he finds the outfit embarrassing. I would have felt the same way about it if I had been playing it around my (hypothetical) girlfriend. The design is stupid. Asking for a way to circumvent that stupidity is not unreasonable.
To be fair, Pyra and Bayonetta's cases are pretty different, one being a sort of expansion of a slave/tool to owner relationship that grows over time while one is SUPPOSED TO BE (it fumbles this a lot) about female empowerment and liberation through the ownership of sex.
If the basis of your embarassment is yoh dont like the design why are you hiding behind your girlfriend's imaginary objection? Why don't you just say you don't like it because it's dumb?
And yes it matters because thr frame work you are providing with that opening is a woman in your life would be embarassed. But she doesn't care so why even mention it?
Just turn it off if you can't handle it.
And yes the design is dumb and it's valid to not play games with designs you dont like. It's valid to criticize it. But be forthcoming with where the problem lies. Its not "women" in this case, it's you.
And yes it matters because thr frame work you are providing with that opening is a woman in your life would be embarassed. But she doesn't care so why even mention it?
Just turn it off if you can't handle it.
And yes the design is dumb and it's valid to not play games with designs you dont like. It's valid to criticize it. But be forthcoming with where the problem lies. Its not "women" in this case, it's you.
This. Me and my wife do this, and we basically laugh at people who actually get off on characters like her or Pyra. Don't be embarrassed for yourself but for the people who are actually titillated by pandering in games.
Also I can't remember seeing Cidney more than like 2-3 times in the first few hours of the game, so just push through. Yep, it's bad, unfortunately stuff like this is a constant in many Japanese games.
I think the real problem is that while Bayonetta triumphs with her style and self-aware silliness, Pyra is simply not that interesting at all.
Bayonetta is up front with how it presents her. Xenoblade 2 is not, and someone could be enjoying it well enough and suddenly the camera gets lost in some tits.
It's a bit insulting that the game thinks it needs to repeatingly grab your attention through a boobs instead of having more engaging writing or action.
The audacity of this thread comparing those b-tier anime designs to anything in Bayonetta
Just
I'm appalled
Just completely missing the point, both of you.
Oh, no, women have breasts and some of them are fit and want to show that! It never happens IRL /s
Come on, dude, you are playing a game which has fantasy in it's name, of course stuff there would be exaggerated or too "perfect". Like, why would anyone not go to the limit when they can? Do you also whine about only attractive people in movies?
Or do you close your eyes when you see some girl's navel?
TL;DR: When you go in a fantasy world there is no point to show anything but the most perfect image of everything.
Come on, dude, you are playing a game which has fantasy in it's name, of course stuff there would be exaggerated or too "perfect". Like, why would anyone not go to the limit when they can? Do you also whine about only attractive people in movies?
Or do you close your eyes when you see some girl's navel?
TL;DR: When you go in a fantasy world there is no point to show anything but the most perfect image of everything.
Tell your GF, that Cindy can only breathe through her boobs.
Then tell her to be ashamed of her words and deeds.
Then tell her to be ashamed of her words and deeds.
I mean, unless I am missing something major I don't remember anything gratuitous or embarrassing when it comes to Cindy's portrayal throughout the game or "wrong place wrong time".
Cindy is an outlier of a character design and a minor character at most. I feel many people have already pointed out that other female characters in the game do not dress like her. I don't remember scenes or moments that solely focus on Cindy's body.
Only thing that comes to mind is
- The camera angle when she tows the Regalia (which isn't that gratitous to me)
- The side quest with Prompto where he is trying to ask Cindy out which some people considered creepy since I think it required Noct to take pictures of her
I honestly really like it. Even if she does look like a humanization of the Ragnarok.
Classic Era.
It is. It wouldn't be surprising if it still didn't actually sell 1m to consumers, but we will never know until Nintendo gives us an update.
Anyways, back to topic. Cidney never bothered me in the slightest. Not to mention she doersn't appear much anyway.
She's a mechanic though. She's at least supposed to cover most of her skin when she's actually working and not taking a break. Safety reasons. It's also a dirty job. It'd make more sense if she was properly dressed as she was introduced, then unzipping a bit saying "goshdarnit it's hot out here... y'all don't mind do you?" or something.
She looks amazing tho
An entire thread was closed because someone posted the back shot of this figurine which shows her uh assets. This figurine is not as innocent as it seems
What was your point, then? To call OP gay? I prefaced with "you're being sarcastic" for a reason.
Being ashamed on behalf of someone without even consulting them on their actual opinion is a pretty useless feeling IMO, to say nothing of the weird way he is using his GF as a shield for his opinions without her knowledge.
Nah, if you're doing the string of upgrade quests for the car, you're seeing a lot of her, especially if you're mixing it up with other stuff in those zones. That's easily several sessions in a row.
It's as much about how the camera treats her as anything else, but her getup doesn't help, and the script for her casts her as pretty vapid. She's mindlessly centered on the main characters, and not even in a star-struck way that might make more sense with their connection to the royal family. The little crush Prompto has toward her is actually on the cute side, though.
If OP's partner isn't bothered, then it shouldn't be a problem unless he still doesn't like it himself. If a game really does seem slimy enough, I wouldn't play it whether someone said something specifically or not (I obviously played FFXV, but I see where OP is coming from).
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He said he's embarrassed and she isn't.. Don't see what's hard to understand about that... And the "it's not as bad as.... therefore it's ok" excuse is some false equivalence BS.
OP, if your GF doesnt have an issue, why do you make the thread about that? This could have been a good conversation about forced or ill placed sexuality in games, but it became about how you want to shove your sensibilities in your GF's mouth and act like its her that is offended when it clearly isnt.
With that in mind, i would not be particularly annoyed by the outfit itself if Cindy were not
A. mechanic, and
B. a clear design the devs didnt know what to do with outside of being oogle material for DLC and fanartists, much like 99% of Xenoblade 2's designs.
It doesn't help that the actual team's answers about the subject are just disgusting.
With that in mind, i would not be particularly annoyed by the outfit itself if Cindy were not
A. mechanic, and
B. a clear design the devs didnt know what to do with outside of being oogle material for DLC and fanartists, much like 99% of Xenoblade 2's designs.
It doesn't help that the actual team's answers about the subject are just disgusting.
Well of course. It's a game that has Pixar level animations and the best characters Nintendo has ever written. They're all just jealous.
I have to apologize for Pyra every time a new person watches me play.
*reads thread* And Bayonetta is not really comparable.
Great, now I like her even more.I honestly really like it. Even if she does look like a humanization of the Ragnarok.
Actually it isn't okay. Her design is tame. The camera angles that happen are not okay however.
I got to say that considering all the usual Japanese RPGs, Final Fantasy XV is Far, far down the "concern" line. Yes, Cindy's outfit isn't the best and the whole car wash thing is dumb but hell, you see worse on TV (or aptly mentioned cheerleaders at NBA/NFL/etc), not to mention your usual JRPG.
If OP has such an issue with Cindy from FFXV then I hope OP doesn't watch any R rated (or equivalent in OPs country) movies with his girlfriend.
I do feel some amusement at folks trying to defend trashy Xenoblade 2 designs. Whether or not the game is good is beside the point, but most of the blade designs are terrible.
If OP has such an issue with Cindy from FFXV then I hope OP doesn't watch any R rated (or equivalent in OPs country) movies with his girlfriend.
I do feel some amusement at folks trying to defend trashy Xenoblade 2 designs. Whether or not the game is good is beside the point, but most of the blade designs are terrible.
Yup.
My wife was quite surprised, but I myself was literally appalled at the "car wash" sequence.
Thank god she didn't see that, or she would have thought I was playing a softcore title, let alone what it says of the devs' view on Women in general or "dumb Southern American blondes in physical jobs" in particular.
My wife was quite surprised, but I myself was literally appalled at the "car wash" sequence.
Thank god she didn't see that, or she would have thought I was playing a softcore title, let alone what it says of the devs' view on Women in general or "dumb Southern American blondes in physical jobs" in particular.
I never said it was the absolute best game ever made, but I'm glad you think that way! ;)
Yes, I smell your sarcasm.
Eh.....not even close, not if you are looking at Japanese devs
Even if it involves them, it isn't necessarily solely about them. My Mormon friends have told me that they don't care if I swear around them; that they are used to it. Despite that, I try to be respectful around them and not swear. I am not protecting them from swear words, they are adults, I am just being respectful (and swearing in front of them would make ME feel uncomfortable). From what the OP wrote, I don't feel like he is undermining his girlfriend's autonomy, he just doesn't like the way that design makes him feel when she is around.
Blades are slaves now? If anything Pyra didnt have to do anything if she didnt want to
you should be more worried about what she thinks of Gladiolus
She looks amazing tho
Over designed and under designed at the same time (depending on which part of her you're looking), but overall her design is just so unnecessarily sexualised and young looking.
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