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I'm not paying for console game streaming (Microsoft xCloud, Google Project Stream) what about you?
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I'm fine with streaming for narrative-focused single-player games. But I still think network infrastructure not only in the US but in many areas around the world needs to be improved before streaming will be enjoyable for multiplayer or precision-input type games.
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Oh, I totally agree with you on that. This is starting with the next generation of consoles, although streaming won't replace PS5, or even PS6 (and yes, there will be a generation of traditional consoles after PS5/Xbox Scarlett, somewhere around the mid-to-late 2020s) but after that, all bets are off. It might be that only developers and server racks get PS7 hardware. Then consumers will just subscribe to PS7 (and equivalent Xbox) games via streaming. The only upside I could see to that is, the hardware could be massively more powerful than what could be put into a consumer console. Nearly unlimited potential for ray tracing/path tracing/rendering etc.
Other than that, yeah, it's not looking bright.
I'm not paying for those until the internet infraestructure in my country allows a good experience.
When it happens I'm most likely subscribing for a couple of months to sony, google, nintendo or amazon services when they have a game I want to play that it's not avaliable in the microsoft ecosystem.
When it happens I'm most likely subscribing for a couple of months to sony, google, nintendo or amazon services when they have a game I want to play that it's not avaliable in the microsoft ecosystem.
own all consoles and a gaming pc (need a new gpu soon) but yeah I'd be willing to give all the services a shot
I'd pay for it if:
- It works well enough for most games (I can accept some games like fighting games, rts games and first person shooters not being perfect for it.)
- I can stream my digital library (either from Microsoft or Steam)
- The price is right (and the best would be if it was a combined price with Game Pass and xCloud / Steam bundle and Steam streaming)
Think it's good to be open minded about this. I'll need to upgrade my internet, but they are putting fiber in the ground this month. So my 200Mbit connection will probably improve. No datacaps on my cable internet or 4G internet either. But mostly waiting for that 5G goodness.
- It works well enough for most games (I can accept some games like fighting games, rts games and first person shooters not being perfect for it.)
- I can stream my digital library (either from Microsoft or Steam)
- The price is right (and the best would be if it was a combined price with Game Pass and xCloud / Steam bundle and Steam streaming)
Think it's good to be open minded about this. I'll need to upgrade my internet, but they are putting fiber in the ground this month. So my 200Mbit connection will probably improve. No datacaps on my cable internet or 4G internet either. But mostly waiting for that 5G goodness.
Naw. I don't have a 55inch HDR screen to watch what is basically a compressed youtube video of my own gameplay. Not happening.
I'm upgrading to unlimited 30mbps soon, but I'm not sure if that'll be enough.
Either way, I'm open to streaming, I won't completely ditch it off.
Either way, I'm open to streaming, I won't completely ditch it off.
I won't touch it until they can ensure a sub-10ms input latency.
However I think it will take off in a big way and be massively popular with the mainstream, since games like RDR2 have demonstrated that the mass of gamers don't notice, even less care, about a good amount of input lag. It will be popular to the point where making dedicated home consoles will become niche and unprofitable, and will disappear, leaving the few of us who care with no alternative.
However I think it will take off in a big way and be massively popular with the mainstream, since games like RDR2 have demonstrated that the mass of gamers don't notice, even less care, about a good amount of input lag. It will be popular to the point where making dedicated home consoles will become niche and unprofitable, and will disappear, leaving the few of us who care with no alternative.
I really just want to be able to stream console games to my PC. I'm gonna buy PS5 but I will probably not bother with Anaconda if all the first party games and potentially some third party ones are gonna be on Game Pass/Play Anywhere.
As long as I am given the option I will always opt for physical releases. But when streaming REPLACES physical. I don't see why I won't pay for whatever service someone like Sony are offering at that time. If they can make a huge library of games instantly accessible to either test for 5 minutes or binge for 5 weeks (which is the entire appeal of Netflix) I'm on board.
I wonder what % of people voting no have actually tried a streaming service to begin with. A good one like Geforce Now or Google's project stream. Those work really well. PS Now is ok. But these services have improved a lot in the last years, and they will keep getting better.
I have 1,000 Mbps and I can guarantee you that 30 won't be enough because mine is nowhere near enough for the games to look and feel anywhere close to how they do on a local system.
Waiting to see if things pan out seems to never be an option for gamers.
PS+/XBLG is plenty enough gaming subscriptions for me (especially so with anything Xbox, considering MS lock MP Game Pass games behind Gold still ). No real interest in paying for any active game streaming service subscription, might do a couple weeks every now and then, but that'd be about it.
Lol the opposite, you aren't going to be able to stream every where you go
It will replace stationary hardware before mobile hardware
I never will. Internet isn't always around for me, so I like my games to be playable when ever. I hate being tied to an internet connection just to play something I've purchased.
Gamepass is a real winner though. I'd rather download than stream.
Gamepass is a real winner though. I'd rather download than stream.
Why wouldn't you be able to stream everywhere you go? 5G is close. And the internetspeeds I get over 4G are already 'decent'.
My 4G on the countryside is 20Mbps down and 5Mbps up with a latency of 60ms to the closest Microsoft Azure datacenter. And that's an unlimited data plan. I can see that improving over the next two years.
If I can get next gen games on the Switch and XbX I already have I'm in.
I have gigabit internet and so I am ready on that side. I just doubt the games I want to play will end up on the service.
I have gigabit internet and so I am ready on that side. I just doubt the games I want to play will end up on the service.
There are a lot of people who are going to be changing their tune 6 months from now.
That being said, don't write off anything now before anything's actually been announced, and similarly don't expect streaming to revolutionize the grid. We're in it's infancy, the next 2 years are going to be a real shit show when it comes to how this stuff works and why it doesn't work for everyone.
That being said, don't write off anything now before anything's actually been announced, and similarly don't expect streaming to revolutionize the grid. We're in it's infancy, the next 2 years are going to be a real shit show when it comes to how this stuff works and why it doesn't work for everyone.
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Yeah, it would be ridiculous to want to have ownership of my games.
I still feel people on resetera think streaming is somehow replacing your current experiences. Streaming is interesting for all these big companies for two reasons:
- It increases your playtime and doesn't restrict you to a plastic box
- People who would never buy a console could try some games now without much troubles
People with shit internet, people who only want 4K/60, people who only want to game on a couch won't be affected by this. At least for the next 5 years.
Then you are fighting digital media. Not streaming. Which is fair, but not being able to stream is only because you don't want to own games digitally.
My library is 99% digital these days. So I'll be able to stream those games.
- It increases your playtime and doesn't restrict you to a plastic box
- People who would never buy a console could try some games now without much troubles
People with shit internet, people who only want 4K/60, people who only want to game on a couch won't be affected by this. At least for the next 5 years.
Then you are fighting digital media. Not streaming. Which is fair, but not being able to stream is only because you don't want to own games digitally.
My library is 99% digital these days. So I'll be able to stream those games.
1. My internet (and my entire country's in general) is utter shit
2. I can afford and am willing to waste money on a game or 2 per month
So... no.
2. I can afford and am willing to waste money on a game or 2 per month
So... no.
It's just like netflix - pay $15 or whatever per month to access a range of games vs paying $30-$60 for each game individually.
I'll still buy the games that I want normally but the $15 will easily cover the impulse buys I normally do on consoles each week/month.
I'll still buy the games that I want normally but the $15 will easily cover the impulse buys I normally do on consoles each week/month.
It ultimately depends on performance. Can they replicate the performance I'd expect from a PS4 or Xbox One hardware (or whatever the next line of consoles is)?
I'm not cash constrained so I have no issue buying every console. But if performance approximated hardware then I'd probably be happy to save space.
But in Australia, with third world internet, it seems unlikely that this would be possible in the near-term.
I'm not cash constrained so I have no issue buying every console. But if performance approximated hardware then I'd probably be happy to save space.
But in Australia, with third world internet, it seems unlikely that this would be possible in the near-term.
4g isn't reliable enough and the speeds change with every mile you travel, speed is not consistent
5g might work once it's every where, but even then once 5g is every where not many people are going to pay 20-30$ a month just so they can use 5g to stream games on the go
Actually it might even be more than 20-30$ a month, I know I wouldn't pay for it
