I'm reconcepting Chrono Trigger, let's do it together. [updates every workday]

Raging Spaniard

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CT is my favorite game of all time, that's not novel or anything. I think it perfectly achieves everything it sets out to do and I've been drawing it for most of my life (example 1 2, 3) since its release in the mid 90's

In a vacuum I don't think the game needs to be reconcepted or redesigned but at the same time I'm such a fan that there's always the lingering "what if I got to work on my favorite game, how would I tackle it" It's a really fun exercise to go through, it's a great way for me to do some sketching in the mornings before work and it gets to celebrate an IP that its dear to me and to many others.

So anyways, these are rough character designs, about an hour each, more or less depending on the complexity. I've gone through the playable characters so far but they're not final designs either. What I would love for ERA to help or contribute to:
  • feedback! what you hate, what you hate less, maybe you even like something
  • suggestions of what to do next! I'm pretty well versed in this whole art thing so animation studies, environment designs, architecture studies, the rest of the cast, etc. I'll link to twitter polls and all that good stuff
  • join in! Do your own redesigns! If you are an aspiring concept artists, projects like these can make for great portfolio showcases
PLAYABLE CAST



CRONO






Crono needs to read as a samurai fanboy. Make the clothes a little oversized, make him look a little bit messy. He needs to pull off a look that works when hes a noob and a badass when hes going through fools with the rainbow sword

There no reason why female Crono shouldn't be an option in a potential remake. You could have the exact same design with a female body and it would work but I really like how games like Persona 3/4 give you a new design that still feels genuine but offers some alternatives. When it comes to samurai looks theres a ton out there so I looked at some Fire Emblem stuff and found some good inspiration there.



MARLE


Marle is running away from home, so I imagine her trying a little harder to pass of as a local but not doing a great job, that includes a rushed hair recolor and not realizing she shouldnt leave the castle with all that jewelry on.



LUCCA


CT really overdoes it by giving everyone the same overall scarf fashion so I want to make the characters feel a bit more different. Lucca needs to feel a bit more sciency, maybe a bit sleep deprived and give you a sharp contrast from Marle. I imagine shes wearing her dads lab coat, hence why it looks a tad too big on her



FROG


Frog is a master swordsman and kind of an aspirational character for Crono. Making him look more ragged and giving him a sword that, at least in the looks department, may in fact cut a mountain in two are two important factors I wanted to get across. Adding a bit more armor to really push the medieval time period and to show that hes not given up on being a human just yet

I love Frog, his demeanor, his reluctance to be a Hero yet hes constantly willing to fight on regardless of how tired he is or how hopeless he feels about himself



ROBO


Robo is a perfect design as it is, so less is more here. Just redrawing him in my style and making sure he looks like he can open up was enough for me. Drawing robots is hard, yo

I do think hes an all time great and I loved the scene in CT where you find his lifeless, empty husk



AYLA


For Ayla I knew I wanted darker skin, I also wanted darker hair but the blonde worked better in terms of contrast sooo I thought maybe some different colored streaks? Maybe as tribal leader she gets to do that, be more flamboyant and all that. Dropped the club, she doesnt need it, she needs to look like she can wreck house all by herself

I also really loved the eating contest she has with Crono, its one of those dumb, character building moments that can so easily establish a character and you dont even have to come up with a crazy gameplay mechanic to make it work



MAGUS

Magus v2. I took a close look at all the feedback and made some notable changes. Made him a bit more badass, more focused, added some Zeal elements so you can still see the connection to his past, still kept him provocative and alluring ... or at least I hope I did!


Magus v1 (for posterity)
Magus has the most drastic change, hes simply too cool a character so I couldn't resist. As the first major antagonist making him look more adult seem fitting, adding the demon horns seems like something he would do, its all a bit Marilyn Manson so this design is not gonna be for everybody but I think he contrasts really well with the rest of the cast. Nothing wrong with the original look either by the way, this was just a good chance to be less traditional

As for whats next I want to start doing some environment design stuff, like what does Crono's house look like from the outside but I could instead design the immediate secondary cast (Spekkio, Schala, etc). I could also do studies for their attacks and magic attacks. Let me know what ideas you have and if you think I should take a second pass at any of the starting cast :)

EXTENDED CAST

ZEAL KINGDOM



Schala, I like her overall look and feel but I saw an opportunity to add more detail and make her attire look a bit more put together. Mixed in some extra colors, added more jewelry but tried to keep things flowy and natural. As I make more Kingdom of Zeal characters I could see experimenting with more patterns and then revisiting this design a bit but for right now it strikes a good balance, I think

Janus. Not a drastic change, I think keeping him looking like a mysterious magical kid is the way to go, I added a few more details in order to make him look like a mini Schala, made his hair a bit wilder and if he looks like he may have more magical power than he needs, that's a good thing

Queen Zeal. Her original design worked fine in the sprite form but as far as her concept goes ... its not for me, so I wanted to make more changes. She should look like the evolved version of Schala with a bit of corruption in there. More jewelry, more complex silhouette, more colors, more magic and all the while she looks composed enough to make her look like a good ruler on the surface eventhough shes totes OKwith sacrificing anyone she holds dear in exchange for power.

600 AD



For the adult/human/badass version of Glenn I really liked his original sprite, I instantly wanted to play a whole game as that character so I moved in that direction rather than his Son Gohan esque makeover in the anime cutscenes. Squire Glenn needs to hint at his future in subtle ways and still be a design that reads NPC+. Being overshadowed by Cyrus is pretty important at this stage but you still need to see a fledgling swordsman in him.

Cyrus and Tata. Not a ton of changes for either but really trying to push the "stereotypical JRPG heroes" trope that the game itself does. The Heros Badge is prominent on both and it seems to be a heavy burden for both in different ways.

I think combining both aspects of the old Glenn with Frog, adding the Heros Badge as a visible thing, keeping the Masamune looking like a heavy burden on the character and making Glenn look confident but still somewhat damaged is the way to go here. Hes seen everything the world has to offer by this point and has been given another chance at living life in his own way

600 AD | MAGUS'S GENERALS



In terms of memorable bad guys, Ozzie does pretty well for himself. Toriyama has a very particular way of drawing this type of character so I tried to be respectful of that, specifically the silhouette and the fact that you get those giant metal underpants as a piece of armor (somehow) so I wanted to spend some time making that look important. Hes an opulent, full of himself character that is eager to fuck your shit and characters like that are always fun to design.

I wanted to keep Flea fun, alluring, magical and still change elements from his portrayal that just havent aged well. Hopefully this designg resonates well with the old fans and it's a fresh enough look to stand on its own.

Slash has a similar challenge. I don't think they gave him giant lips and dark skin as a malicious gesture but that's not something I will be partaking in so changes were needed. I liked the idea of making him a magical swordmaster because that gives us a bit more variety and fleshes out the world more. We already have Crono, Frog, Cyrus and other people fighting in more traditional means so lets come up with something that feels like a very different style for a character of this type.

2300 AD

Not a ton of NPC's for this area, well, at least Id like more ... but its pretty damn memorable! Maybe most memorable of all is Johnny, I remember being REALLY excited for the race sequence in Mode 7 as it was used heavily to promote the game in magazine and TV ads, it looked amazing!



In the spirit of change, I wanted him to have the one legged look and, if that means he transforms into a 3 wheel vehicle, thats fine. I liked the Greaser look so I tried to push it a bit more, made the leather jacket orange for some better contrast, kept the BADYEAR of course and went a little extra Kamina on the sunglasses because how could I not.

Doan. I think his original design is ... fine but theres a lot of room to do something more significant here. 300 years after the apocalypse humans have become tribal again, with the lack of food, sunshine, probably excess radiation and whatever else, humans should look slightly different, especially as they age and deteriorate it
shouldn't be shocking to see cybernetic implants and discolored skin. They would still look for trinkets, they would still adorn their leaders with ways to distinguish them, this kind of stuff is prevalent through human history and it would persist even in 2300



Atropos XR! Good chance to make some alterations to the factory model for a little extra personality. I considered changing the stereotypical pink but seeing how there are a lot of female character in this game, having one be a more "typical" girl and, even better, going the robot route did seem like a good thing to keep.



65,000,000 B.C.

Kino is a pretty basic character, if he reads like a wannabe hero who doesnt have his shit together and may or may not fuck up at any moment then mission accomplished. You also need to get the impression that he can grow into not being a total loser, so I couldn't go too wild here.



Stone Age doesnt have much, but it has reptites! I wanted to set the look before getting to Azala who, ultimately will really embody the whole culture. I made some changes from the original, they had pink skin in places and instead I made that coral'ish armor. I want them to look smart, having tools, weapons and armor, I wanted them to look like the top of the food chain and establish humans as the obvious lower class citizens.



Azala! Queen of the Reptites! This was a fun update, wanted to make her look more royal, more complex and more fun. She already had a great, memorable silhouette that I wanted to develop more and it was a good way to keep adding layers to Reptite culture which is sorely needed. When you stop to think about it, CT has quite the memorable female cast!



BOSS RUSH

Lets start at the beginning, with the Chancellor/Yakra combo!



I made some changes so that I can tie him to his monster form in a bit. I also used the opportunity to add some extra flair, maybe his sense of fashion has Zeal hints to it? Maybe he makes some odd choices since hes just pretending to be human? At the end of the day you cant go all out since its the first boss so just introduce some concepts and leave room to level up later.

For Yakra proper, how many did this? I certainly did



So, really, the concepts only job was to clear that up and have fun with the shape. No need to reconcept a lot here, its a fun animal shape that has some extra shit going on. The fight itself is pretty good though, great choice for a first boss



The Dragon Tank fight is a pivotal moment in the game, and I remember it being heavily advertised so it had to deliver! Mechanical designs are not really my thing and I really like Toriyamas approach to his vehicles so I tried to learn from him here



As for Dalton, I knew I wanted to lean HEAVY on the JoJo influences. He is an extravagant person WITHIN Zeal so he needed to be extra on top of extra ... and what better inspiration than Arakis work



FANART?!?!?!?!

Oh hi, I was always intent to return to this but, you know, professional game development and all that tends to take priority (boo!)

However, yesterday I awoke to an AWESOME surprise via twitter! Check this out!










ArtStation Link


HOLY SHIT!
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Thanks for indulging me! Hopefully this goes on for a while!
 
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Niosai

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Oct 28, 2017
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This is super super cool. I love the redesigns and while I love the Toriyama style, I'd welcome these fully.
 

Rogue Blue

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I love stuff like this.

You really did a great job with this, and I love the thought you put into these redesigns.
 
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Raging Spaniard

Raging Spaniard

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Is it just me or these are heavily influenced by Amano? It's like seeing FF4 or FF6 art. I love it
Hes a pretty early inspiration for me (huge compliment!) and this particular inking style is something Ive been experimenting with to make my quick sketches look more finished. Im using Frenden's Photoshop presets, which are amazing and I would recommend to anyone here.
 

Hailinel

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Oct 27, 2017
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These area all really nice and seem to fit the characters pretty well! I'm definitely watching this thread.

The only suggestion I'd have in terms of who/what to do next would be Queen Zeal, but I only say this because she's one of my favorite game villains ever despite appearing in Chrono Trigger for like ten minutes (or more if her boss fight really goes long).
 

Plywood

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Oct 25, 2017
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-That boy Crono needs a burger in his belly and some muscle on those bones.
-Increase Marle's forehead by 5-10%
-Return Magus' codpiece, coward

grumble, grumble

Seriously though you did a great job translating Toriyama's designs.
 

Keym

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Oct 26, 2017
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Most of your designs look pretty awesome, except for Ayla and Magus. In Ayla's case, maybe it's her pose, but she looks weird.
 

PSqueak

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Not feeling your Lucca and Chrono + Robo seem pretty much unchanged, but i do like the others, bringing more beef to Ayla and Magus works very nicely and Exaggerating Frog's Sword to body ratio really works for him.

Not too sure about Marle being beefier., i mean i like it personally, but i don't think it works for a spoiled princess character

BTW, if you want suggestion for the next characters, really interested on seeing were you take Magus' generals :3c
 

Phendrift

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Oct 25, 2017
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These are so good!

I vote you do Schala next. I always loved her design and would be really interested in seeing your take!
 

Cheezeman3000

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As probably the biggest Chrono fan in this forum, I fully approve of your awesome designs.
Brave words considering how much of a fan I am. ;)

These are really well done, for suggestions I'd love to see some background environments from the Kingdom of Zeal in 12k BC, and the cast from that era like Schala, etc.
 

Raoh

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Oct 27, 2017
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I really like Frog here, but you mentioned adding more armor but i dont see that much besides the gauntlets boots, what did u meant by that?

Magus is really interesting, he's the one character i think has perfect design but i'm glad i see u did sonething different for him.

And Crono kinda looks like he came straight of Naruto, heh.
 

Lichtsang

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Looks really good! I'm perhaps in the vast minority, but I was never a fan of Toriyamas designs, so this actually looks better to me!
 
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Raging Spaniard

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These area all really nice and seem to fit the characters pretty well! I'm definitely watching this thread.

The only suggestion I'd have in terms of who/what to do next would be Queen Zeal, but I only say this because she's one of my favorite game villains ever despite appearing in Chrono Trigger for like ten minutes (or more if her boss fight really goes long).
Yeah I think Zeal as a whole is very interesting, I was thinking of doing a FASHION pass because when you look at the designs for the Guardia Kinngdom circa 1000 they are all over the place. We know that in 600 its strictly Euro medieval, right? However, by 1000 there are a lot of Arabic (correct me if thats an offensive term) influences in terms of pants, jewelry, etc. Now thats probably just Toriyama doing whatever he wants BUT even by accident it goes to show that in 400 years the world changed and became more inclusive. Could it be that people from a different culture moved to Guardia and its a contrast in fashion styles? To bring this back to Zeal, I imagine them to be very robe like and it might even be interesting to change NPC attires when the Black Omen shows up in present time, maybe everyones attire becomes more robe like
Not a fan of Aylas face tbh.
Not a fan of the strong nose? With a profile yawning shot its actually hard to make out her actual facial features, who looks good while yawning. I'll probably do another shot of her at some point
I love it Xavi, Magus is my favourite one! You are really fucking talented dude.

Can I also count as a fellow Xavi even though mine spells differently?
Thanks! Game needed some beef, haha

I actually pronounce my name Javi since I grew up in southern Spain, the X is from my French heritage. I know, its confusing. Choca esos cinco!

I really like Frog here, but you mentioned adding more armor but i dont see that much besides the gauntlets boots, what did u meant by that?

Magus is really interesting, he's the one character i think has perfect design but i'm glad i see u did sonething different for him.

And Crono kinda looks like he came straight of Naruto, heh.
I wanted more shoulder armor but his silhouette changed too much, I could have gone with bigger braces though. I think even those small bits of armor help though, as a concept artist its a good rule of thumb to give reasons for your design choices, anything that is done "cause it looks cool" can turn against you but if it looks like a choice the character itself would make, then its justified.

I think if this game was to be remade, you could have Frog try to disguise his Frog form when you first meet him and be more heavily armored, would be a cool reveal later on

Crono is very Naruto like now that you mention it, haha. As a silent character he needs to be very template ish, some personality is fine but he should look more tame when compared to the rest.
Brave words considering how much of a fan I am. ;)

These are really well done, for suggestions I'd love to see some background environments from the Kingdom of Zeal in 12k BC, and the cast from that era like Schala, etc.
As noted above, that would be cool and will happen :)

I'd like to see your take on Queen Zeal, Lavos and Ozzie, Flea and Slash too
It looks like doing a pass on all the major bosses is the proper next step. 6 main characters, 6 bosses? I havent counted yet, but I like the premise
 

ZeroDS

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Yo these are cool as hell man. Always a bit jealous of people who can create like this. Love drawing, but everything I draw ends up looking like a potato
 

HellBlazer

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Crono - Pretty good, I can dig him. Looks a little, um... innocent, but I guess that works for a JRPG hero.

Marle - I like her, too, though she looks older than Crono and she's supposed to be a year younger... Not sure if that's intentional.

Lucca - Upper body and coat are great, bare legs are silly. What is that, a mini skirt? Or just her tunic and she's... not wearing anything else? Whatever is going on with her... socks (?) looks goofy as hell, too.

Frog - Ridiculous anime sword is a no from me. How does he even draw that thing? You say you added armor but... what, metal plates on his gloves and boots instead of a breastplate? He's a knight, he should have some actually useful pieces of armor. Suspenders? Nah.

Ayla - Looks good, definitely more imposing than the original.

Robo - Pretty similar to the original, as you've said. It's a good design, though.

Magus - Uh, no. He looks like an edgy try-hard, which makes him seem immature, and the opposite of looking "more adult". The scythe is goofy (yeah, not a fan of oversized weapons here). The horns are not a bad idea, though.
 
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Raging Spaniard

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Lucca - Upper body and coat are great, bare legs are silly. What is that, a mini skirt? Or just her tunic and she's... not wearing anything else? Whatever is going on with her... socks (?) looks goofy as hell, too.
Oh shes wearing compression shorts like in the original, I actually forgot to draw them again when I did the full body version. I think her wearing clothes that may or may not fit is a good look, makes her look messy and gives a more interesting silhouette


Totally cool if we see the characters differently btw, thats part of the fun :) With Magus I meant adult in the physical sense, not emotional, hes a complete mess emotionally
 

Hailinel

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Yeah I think Zeal as a whole is very interesting, I was thinking of doing a FASHION pass because when you look at the designs for the Guardia Kinngdom circa 1000 they are all over the place. We know that in 600 its strictly Euro medieval, right? However, by 1000 there are a lot of Arabic (correct me if thats an offensive term) influences in terms of pants, jewelry, etc. Now thats probably just Toriyama doing whatever he wants BUT even by accident it goes to show that in 400 years the world changed and became more inclusive. Could it be that people from a different culture moved to Guardia and its a contrast in fashion styles? To bring this back to Zeal, I imagine them to be very robe like and it might even be interesting to change NPC attires when the Black Omen shows up in present time, maybe everyones attire becomes more robe like
I never actually considered the fashion like that, but you're right! All three of those eras have pretty unique fashion, and Guardia's fashion changed pretty dramatically in 400 years. The idea of the Black Omen still being around in 1000 and affecting fashion as a result is an interesting twist, as well.
 

HellBlazer

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Oh shes wearing compression shorts like in the original, I actually forgot to draw them again when I did the full body version. I think her wearing clothes that may or may not fit is a good look, makes her look messy and gives a more interesting silhouette


Totally cool if we see the characters differently btw, thats part of the fun :) With Magus I meant adult in the physical sense, not emotional, hes a complete mess emotionally
Ah yeah, looks much better with the shorts. 👌

And sure, I'm just giving my personal thoughts, but you do what you want, of course. :) You're definitely super talented.
 

noyram23

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Oct 25, 2017
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Beautiful OP, I love them all except for Magus. For Magus I would like if it's much closer to the original with the leather briefs and cloak instead of vest.
 

Syril

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I like the Crono and Marle designs.

For Lucca in the official designs I really like how she and Crono have semi-matching adventuring outfits since they were already good friends before the story starts, and it hints at some of the escapades they probably got into together, so departing too much from that threatens to obscure that I feel. I do like the lab coat though, and I could see her wearing it when she's not adventuring.

I like Frog looking more ragged like that, considering how in the story he's been living by himself out in the woods for years. I'm not sure about the giant Masamune, since I like the idea of its appearance belying its magical power, but that's more of a headcanon than anything else, and Crono Cross also played with the idea of it changing its appearance to fit its history and its wielder, so I could see it becoming something like that when Frog inherits it. Frog already used huge exaggerated motions in his attacks anyway.

I really like your Ayla design. As someone who's stronger with her bare hands than everyone else is with weapons, it makes sense that she looks more physically intimidating than the rest of the group. Female fighters with zero muscle tone is a pet peeve of mine.

Magus is definitely an interesting interpretation. He'd definitely fit right in if Magus was in Chrono Cross as himself.
 
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