This is what I'm wondering about now. I hope what just happened in the UK doesn't have some kind of strong-man normalizing or other causal effect on US voters.
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Impeachment Hearing Live : Debate On Articles Of Impeachment (23 Yes, 17 No)
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This is what I'm wondering about now. I hope what just happened in the UK doesn't have some kind of strong-man normalizing or other causal effect on US voters.
Yes they are suppose to make a decision. It's either going to be yes you can see his taxes or no we need actually hear the case.
It's going to be 'no we need to hear the case'.
There's no 'or'
The only question mark is if they'll go 5-4 in his favor or not.
No evidence will be gathered in the Senate trial because there will be no witnesses to question.
Using such force would certainly piss off some independents and Republicans, no matter how justified it is.
People who don't follow US politics (your so-called "low information voters") probably have no idea who Boris Johnson is. Americans are safely myopic that way, they probably learn about foreign leaders from watching SNL.
I love when people say they should call Schiff, Pelosi, the Bidens, and Nadler to testify as fact witnesses, but then have the gall to claim the 17 witnesses only possess hearsay and no direct evidence.
They will question witnesses and it will be stacked with people who feign disappointment in the president but explain, some emphatically, how these are not impeachable acts. There will be 1-2 Democrat witnesses which will form the body of their arguments, but will ultimately appear the outliers. Article I will be relatively easy to undo as they will read into words however they please. Watching Republicans tear apart the Constitution for Article II will be quite a sight, though.
Bringing any witnesses into the trial offers the Democrats the chance to bring in high profile witnesses like Bolton and Pompeo. Republicans are not going to risk that.
That level of mock trial should be a blood bath in the election, but they've surprised me before and will again, not to mention faith in public accountability at an all time low. I'd think if they were going to go that route they would simply dismiss it as unconstitutional.
Can't wait to find out what 2020 has to offer!!!!!!
Trump's response to today's vote, of course using the talking points we heard earlier from Republicans: "It's a witch hunt, it's a sham. it's a hoax," Trump said. "Zero was done wrong.":
Honestly this seems like one of the more calm, stable interviews I've ever seen him in, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. He's unusually composed here and I don't like that, it suggests confidence in his continuation to fuck our country to death.
World is currently obsessed with pouring gasoline on itself and handing conservative politicians the match.
If Biden is the chosen one, I don't got confidence in shit either. He'll inspire and motivate no one.
It really does suck though that when there is a Republican House and Democrat President, we'll have to deal with false equivalencies.
This president can be a criminal every day and we get gaslighted, and then when there's a democrat they will just make a scandal up and impeach them because "the dems did it first"
I mean, dude said that he's the president's stooge, no matter what. So.... what can be done?
He shift from lie to another lie and keep repeating the same words like if he did they'll come true. Fact-checking this president is a full time job.
Anywhere nice and welcoming to move to? England has me worried about 2020 and I wanna be ready if this prick gets re-elected.
I've heard NZ is heading the same direction lately, just nobody is talking about it as much because they're stuck on it being the place to be.
