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Fat4all

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when I see "make contact with security her security forces", that makes me think "shoot at"
 
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Netherscourge

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Oct 25, 2017
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Why did they want her replaced in the first place?

Was she refusing to comply with Trump in all this stuff as it was playing out?
 

deepFlaw

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Oct 25, 2017
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Perfectly normal chat about possible kidnapping and/or assassination, with the broskis. What the fuck?

As always, hoping the latest twist actually results in anything ultimately meaningful while staring back at all the other twists...
 

Version 3.0

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Oct 27, 2017
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1. This doesn't necessarily imply killing. They could've "only" been planning to hurt her (ie. "do things, including to me") and get her to resign.
2. The language is just vague enough for the GOP to play dumb. Anyone expecting GOP Senators to give a shit will be disappointed. I'll be shocked if any of them are even "concerned".

Don't get me wrong. This is fucking horrible, a new low. Tracking an ambassador, threatening her, even indirectly, is insane. Trump could just fire her. But no, that's not enough. All just because she isn't corrupt.
 

NookSports

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Oct 27, 2017
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1. This doesn't necessarily imply killing. They could've "only" been planning to hurt her (ie. "do things, including to me") and get her to resign.
2. The language is just vague enough for the GOP to play dumb. Anyone expecting GOP Senators to give a shit will be disappointed. I'll be shocked if any of them are even "concerned".
EVEN IF 1 is true it's like 10x worst than Watergate
 

Fat4all

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"make contact with security forces" doesn't mean paying someone to go talk to them, not here

it means paying someone to kill them for sure
 

Sho_Nuff82

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You know, I've been unsure why Parnas is trying to bargain with the House and not the prosecutors that indicted him, but I think I've underrated the possibility Parnas actually has legit goods, wants to make a deal, but worries that Trump's DOJ will simply bury all his information and throw him under the bus.

Would you trust yourself in a Barr federal prison while you were snitching on his boss?
 

Noodle

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Aug 22, 2018
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EVEN IF 1 is true it's like 10x worst than Watergate

Actually in Watergate they kidnapped a woman at gunpoint and beat her to stop her from talking to the press.


And I just found out the "bodyguard" who did the actual beating was made ambassador to the Czech Republic by Trump.

www.newsweek.com

Trump Ambassador Beat Woman During Watergate: Report

Stephen King, Trump's envoy to the Czech Republic, reportedly roughed up the wife of Nixon's campaign director to silence her about Watergate crimes.
 

Wilsongt

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Oct 25, 2017
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Totally clears the president. Trump had nothing to do with this guy. None of this implicates the president.
 

Addie

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Just when you think you couldn't be more shocked about this administration...

All Trump had to do was recall her as ambassador. He has that power. What was the fucking point in threatening her like this?

I don't even fucking understand it unless they just love crimes.
 

MasterYoshi

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Oct 27, 2017
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Holy shit. Can we update the thread title to include "Uncovered assassination plot of ambassador Yovanovitch?
 

Fat4all

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I personally took that, in combination with the later message about having someone on the inside, to mean that they needed to pay off the security force or otherwise get inside of it.
i suppose, but the way the messages go it kinda makes me think its

'we know where she is and where she's gonna be, if security gets in the way they'll have to be dealt with as well'
 

BWoog

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just when you think you couldn't be more shocked about this administration...

All Trump had to do was recall her as ambassador. He has that power. What was the fucking point in threatening her like this?

I don't even fucking understand it unless they just love crimes.

Trump is a fucking mob boss wannabe. He probably wanted to "rough her up a little" to have her leave voluntarily.
 

Addie

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Also, it goes without saying:

If you respected the courage of Yovanovitch before during her pivotal House testimony, it's time to double down on that.
 

antonz

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Oct 25, 2017
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Let us remember. The Ambassador herself testified to Congress she was warned by Ukrainian officials of a plot against her. So this really expands the window on that
 

xbhaskarx

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Oct 27, 2017
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Actually in Watergate they kidnapped a woman at gunpoint and beat her to stop her from talking to the press.


And I just found out the "bodyguard" who did the actual beating was made ambassador to the Czech Republic by Trump.

www.newsweek.com

Trump Ambassador Beat Woman During Watergate: Report

Stephen King, Trump's envoy to the Czech Republic, reportedly roughed up the wife of Nixon's campaign director to silence her about Watergate crimes.
Of course he was....