Impeachment - Lev Parnas (communications suggest surveillance and possible plot to harm US ambassador) UPDATE: Lawyer: FBI never investigated comms

FunkyMonkey

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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yeah title needs to be updated. have a knot in my stomach about this. we have fallen so far so quickly. literal mob in the white house and sycophants okay with it
 

LordRuyn

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Oct 29, 2017
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What in the fucking world is going on ?! Seriously, US citizens plotting to assassinate a US ambassador, even through a proxy, is fucking unreal....
 

dabig2

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Oct 29, 2017
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Seth Abramson leveling up:

PS7/ So if you've got big opinions on what these texts mean, you better know who Favorov is, and Kobolyev, and Firtash, and Hochstein; you better know about oblgazy, RosUkrEnergo and Naftogaz; you better know what "The Perry List" and the "Black Ledger" are. I ain't playin' here.
For those wondering "why" about all this, you're looking at the tippiest point of the tip of the iceberg. All of what led up to this predates Mueller and Trump's own presidency. Dems have barely even started following the money for one.

We need to get Parnas AND Rick Gates on the congressional witness stand, with Rick Gates getting multiple hearings involving his participation in several grifts.

If the GOP wants to bar the senate trial shut, then OK, we'll get what we need in the House and all these Senate GOP can be forced to justify their decisions in light of the onslaught of information that will be coming over the next 6 months, especially once the supreme court stops dicking us around with the money aspect of Trump's crimes.

As long as the Dems keep pressing, and it sounds like they will as they should, I honestly couldn't care less about what the senate does. Keep your eyes to the bigger game being played: the information war game. Americans are still in the dark about virtually all of the GOP and Trump's crimes.
 

mrpoopy

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Oct 27, 2017
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If Trump wanted her out of the way why not just assign a different ambassador? Just say she was assigned by Obama and end it right there.
 

Wilsongt

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Oct 25, 2017
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Seth Abramson leveling up:



For those wondering "why" about all this, you're looking at the tippiest point of the tip of the iceberg. All of what led up to this predates Mueller and Trump's own presidency. Dems have barely even started following the money for one.

We need to get Parnas AND Rick Gates on the congressional witness stand, with Rick Gates getting multiple hearings involving his participation in several grifts.

If the GOP wants to bar the senate trial shut, then OK, we'll get what we need in the House and all these Senate GOP can be forced to justify their decisions in light of the onslaught of information that will be coming over the next 6 months, especially once the supreme court stops dicking us around with the money aspect of Trump's crimes.

As long as the Dems keep pressing, and it sounds like they will as they should, I honestly couldn't care less about what the senate does. Keep your eyes to the bigger game being played: the information war game. Americans are still in the dark about virtually all of the GOP and Trump's crimes.
can we not signal boost Abramson?
 

Shadybiz

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Oct 27, 2017
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Seth Abramson leveling up:



For those wondering "why" about all this, you're looking at the tippiest point of the tip of the iceberg. All of what led up to this predates Mueller and Trump's own presidency. Dems have barely even started following the money for one.

We need to get Parnas AND Rick Gates on the congressional witness stand, with Rick Gates getting multiple hearings involving his participation in several grifts.

If the GOP wants to bar the senate trial shut, then OK, we'll get what we need in the House and all these Senate GOP can be forced to justify their decisions in light of the onslaught of information that will be coming over the next 6 months, especially once the supreme court stops dicking us around with the money aspect of Trump's crimes.

As long as the Dems keep pressing, and it sounds like they will as they should, I honestly couldn't care less about what the senate does. Keep your eyes to the bigger game being played: the information war game. Americans are still in the dark about virtually all of the GOP and Trump's crimes.
Ehhhhhh.....
 

dabig2

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Oct 29, 2017
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can we not signal boost Abramson?
I couldn't give a fuck about some people's hateboner for the man. If he posts knowledge, then it's going here. And people here need to know that all of this crime goes back far and sprawls.

Oh shoot. I used that tweet to tell somebody about this. What’s wrong with the dude? Never heard of him.
Primer material
 

Tokyo_Funk

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Dec 10, 2018
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Reading through all of this and it is hard to be surprised at all. A mobster was put in place, he is going to run things like a mobster and be as corrupt as fuck. After the Stormy Daniels incident and hearing his wording and her testimony to a threat to her and her daughter, it was only a matter of time before Trump tries again, because he knew how easy it was to get away with it.
 

hyouko

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Oct 27, 2017
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I couldn't give a fuck about some people's hateboner for the man. If he posts knowledge, then it's going here. And people here need to know that all of this crime goes back far and sprawls.
Everyone's down on him because he doesn't post knowledge, he posts fanfic and speculation. To use a random recent example, he was pushing the fake "30 people dead" rumor back during the Iran missile attacks a few days ago - his stuff was the exact crap people were eating bans for in that thread. Find someone better to follow.
 

Sho_Nuff82

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Nov 14, 2017
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Abramson is what right wingers think Rachel Maddow is. Mixes speculation freely with the news of the day. Don't bother when dozens of real reporters are hashing through stories.
 

platocplx

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Oct 30, 2017
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I truly have no fucking idea why this crap keeps happening with people from Connecticut.
roger stone, Manafort and now this Hyde guy are all from Connecticut. This is insane.
 

Hetz

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Oct 27, 2017
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This is absolutely terrifying and needs to be the top story on every news site and tv news show tomorrow. Who cares about the debate, this is fucking serious.
 

Sho_Nuff82

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Nov 14, 2017
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In a normal world, the napkin saying "Get Zelensky to announce that the Biden case will be investigated" would end a presidency.

That the GOP is so far gone that we're happy they're willing to have a trial shows how far we've fallen as a country and how low the standards are for the party.
 

dabig2

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Oct 29, 2017
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Everyone's down on him because he doesn't post knowledge, he posts fanfic and speculation. To use a random recent example, he was pushing the fake "30 people dead" rumor back during the Iran missile attacks a few days ago - his stuff was the exact crap people were eating bans for in that thread. Find someone better to follow.
Yeah, big push

Whatever, this ain't the Seth topic though, but for those not in the know, he gets impeachment and what the game is about. And as the crime begins to get less murker this year, expect to see his name a lot more. Believe that.

Anyways, what the topic should be about are the names and companies mentioned. Rewind the clock back to when the House first requested documents and things start clicking. With Parnas's cooperation among others, these blanks are going to be filled in that existed as mere speculation before.

Honestly, none of this is surprising beyond their criminal ineptitude.
 

Bad_Boy

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Oct 25, 2017
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whats insane is that this is now in the public sphere of knowledge. imagine all the deleted, trashed, destroyed, hidden evidence that we don't know about.

these fuckers are dirtier that dog shit.

my only reference of security forces is a military police, but everything else sounds like threats and/or assassination.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Norman, OK
In a normal world, the napkin saying "Get Zelensky to announce that the Biden case will be investigated" would end a presidency.

That the GOP is so far gone that we're happy they're willing to have a trial shows how far we've fallen as a country and how low the standards are for the party.
Yep. It’s completely understandable that we’re all taken aback by the Yovanovitch revelations, but how is this note not the smoking gun regarding the main charge levied against Trump? Seems like this should be a big deal.
 

BWoog

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Oct 27, 2017
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In a normal world, the napkin saying "Get Zelensky to announce that the Biden case will be investigated" would end a presidency.

That the GOP is so far gone that we're happy they're willing to have a trial shows how far we've fallen as a country and how low the standards are for the party.
In all honesty, I think if a majority of Republicans had the Senate for Nixon, he would have gotten off Scott free.
 

Wonderment

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Oct 27, 2017
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Title has been updated. Yes, this is a very big deal, even if somehow it turns out the guy turns out to be living in his own fantasy. The Senate trial will be taking a turn for sure.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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South Carolina
Somehow the more we learn the uglier and worse it is. And these people continue to look stupider and stupider thinking nothing would ever come to light.
We're going deeper into the Heart of Darkness; this is merely one step of many.

Better to have to see it than a position where we'd not, I'd think.

Just when you think you couldn't be more shocked about this administration...

All Florida Man had to do was recall her as ambassador. He has that power. What was the fucking point in threatening her like this?

I don't even fucking understand it unless they just love crimes.
Why Preside as President when you can Mob as Mobster?
 

papermoon

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Oct 27, 2017
1,410
Remember Amb. Yovanovich's testimony? She had to leave the embassy in Kiev and fly back to the States with no notice - that same night - and she was warned that the President was out to get her. I thought it was just her job her at risk. Jesus Christ. She was fleeing for her life.
 

Whitemex

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Oct 27, 2017
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