The second the midterms was won use one of the following to start impeachment : The Muller report, Trumps multiple conflicts of interest that goes back for years, firing James Comey, paying off Stormy Daniels. Take your pick.
Add it to the pile of documents that could have been used since this administration began. If we started earlier we could literally add this to the pile on top of any of the other stuff.
Do you expect this person's answer to be reasonable and coherent with a clear understanding of the situation?
Grabbing women by the pussy
the only thing he did thats really that absurd compared to the usual here is be so shit about it. The US government has been an mob organisation for a very long time
We don't typically try to assassinate our own diplomats over a fox news tier troll conspiracy.
I have a hard time thinking this would be a hard thing to be arguing politically if they weren't so busy falling over themselves to argue that he would be "self impeachable" and to trust the American people to decide that in the next election. When he already tried to interfere in the 2016 election and tried again with setting up a sham investigation in Biden. Do you think it's a coincidence that Trump started the Ukraine call the day after Mueller testified to Congress after essentially being let off the hook for the entire thing? People have been calling this kind of stuff out since the beginning of the Trump Presidency, but the only thing to get Democrats to move is a Ukraine call which led us to moment when literally anything else could have. Waiting this long has only given him more time to fill our government with sycophants like Barr and pack our courts with his judges. But do go on how we should just trust a system and wait for it to fix itself instead of questioning or holding the people in charge doing their job.
But yous have bombed people and conducted covert ops including assassinations on your own soil before, so while the US hasn't done this specific bad thing, again its not like it was because of morality. Trump in this particular case is just being extra shit at covering his shit up
Your defense of Trump (that's what it is, you're saying this isn't abnormal for the US) is the same as Trump's defense of Putin's Russia where people are regularly thrown out of windows... including just yesterday:
I was not referring to a foreign terrorist or drug cartel nor did I indicate I was but go off I guess
The US government gunned down it's own citizen's at Kenn State.
Fair, though I'd prefer we don't kill anyone needlessly.
This is not a moral difference. Killing citizens they have the duty to protect is potentially worse tbh
Saying the US gov has always been doing shit similar to this to its citizens isn't whataboutism. It doesn't make what Trump and his admin are doing less bad just because the US has done similar shit before.
I suppose strategically maybe you could say so sure. However that wasn't the point I was trying to make nor was it the point the person I originally responded to was making either as far as I can tell
