Why does everybody want Schiff for president? He's doing well at the job he has and has shown no inclination to wanting to be president. This is like any AOC related thread. Stop it. There's more to being an effective politician than being the president. Idolizing the position of president to this degree is related to how we got into this shit.
I think the best we can hope for is that there's a tiny fraction of conservatives who will be swayed and will vote Democrat or stay home in November, and enough Democrats will be energized by the fact that they voted in those people in 2018 to impeach Trump, the Dems followed through and they did it amazingly well, with a lot of passion. Regardless of the acquittal, if enough people come out of this being convinced that the Democrats are on the right side of history, that they're intelligent and serious about their job and that the Republicans are real sons of bitches, it could tip the election in the Dems' favor come November.
Also, yeah, Schiff is coming out of this considerably more famous and popular. No idea if he wants to run for president some day, but if he does, his performance here will help him tremendously.
Why does everybody want Schiff for president? He's doing well at the job he has and has shown no inclination to wanting to be president. This is like any AOC related thread. Stop it. There's more to being an effective politician than being the president. Idolizing the position of president to this degree is related to how we got into this shit.
The main thing that I'm worried about is a Trump acquittal announcing to the world that if you meddle in US elections to help the GOP there will be no repercussions. I'm not sure if we can win in 2020 when having to work against open election meddling, and if Trump serves another term then who knows what more will be done to dismantle the integrity of our elections. I worry our democracy is on the line here.
You make good points, julian. Have you considered being presidentWhy does everybody want Schiff for president? He's doing well at the job he has and has shown no inclination to wanting to be president. This is like any AOC related thread. Stop it. There's more to being an effective politician than being the president. Idolizing the position of president to this degree is related to how we got into this shit.
Fortunately China could interfere as well and they hate him. Could just depend on who is better between them and Russia to decide who wins in 2020.
It sounds like it, and then back on Monday. Trump was throwing a fit that his defense started on Saturday, so they might have delayed the bulk of it til Monday.
Yeah, I gave up watching. My blood pressure doesn't need me being furious for 3 hours as the President's defense team lies for him. I'll catch highlights of the crazy, stupid, or wrong shit that'll surely come from them."They didn't talk a lot about the transcript"
Did he watch the fucking presentations?
You're supposed to prove YOUR YOUR INNOCENCE, you dumb fuck, YOU'RE ON TRIAL !!
"They didn't talk a lot about the transcript"
Did he watch the fucking presentations?
Fortunately China could interfere as well and they hate him. Could just depend on who is better between them and Russia to decide who wins in 2020.
Righto, well let's get rid of the Senate vote on removal and allow the American people to decide whether or not the sitting President is removed from office."American people decide elections."
Alright so it's now the position of the White House and the entire GOP that the impeachment clause of the constitution shouldn't exist at all. Nice to see they feel the same way that they did 20 years ago.
Republicans do not break rankCorrect me if I'm wrong, but Trumps approval ratings seems to be unchanged since he was impeached? I guess people don't care.
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If that were true Hillary would be president :\
Righto, well let's get rid of the Senate vote on removal and allow the American people to decide whether or not the sitting President is removed from office.
I'm about 20 minutes behind, but it seems like this guy didn't see any of the House Managers opening statements the last 3 days. Trump's lawyers are completely in their own bubble.
Now we're getting somewhere! Will of the People, right?Righto, well let's get rid of the Senate vote on removal and allow the American people to decide whether or not the sitting President is removed from office.
It's a combination of the two sides being fully dug-in by now and anyone in the middle probably just stuck with scandal-fatigue. The media reports on terrible shit Trump does on such a constant basis that the gravitas of any particular charge is lessened. Just another story on the pile, whatever, everyone knows there's a 0% chance he actually gets removed from all this anyway so there's nothing to be gained by paying attention to any of this in some folks' minds.Correct me if I'm wrong, but Trumps approval ratings seems to be unchanged since he was impeached? I guess people don't care.
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Well i have a hammer and a screwdriver in my basement, but I'm not entirely sure where to begin with this level of dismantle :VI never understand why some Americans are so hung up on vote count when they 100% know that electoral college decides the winner, not necessarily who wins in raw vote count.
Want it other way? Take down electoral college.
Well i have a hammer and a screwdriver in my basement, but I'm not entirely sure where to begin with this level of dismantle :V
Fun how when you're in middle school and the teacher is like "This is our political system it's the best one on earth!" and you got no context for that so you just agree with it. Now I"m 30 and I want to burn it all to the ground, but you know, in a way that would keep emissions low to protect our environment.
None of these arguments are compelling. The house managers did that 8 mile strategy and anticipated all of these arguments and refuted them already.
I think the best we can hope for is that there's a tiny fraction of conservatives who will be swayed and will vote Democrat or stay home in November, and enough Democrats will be energized by the fact that they voted in those people in 2018 to impeach Trump, the Dems followed through and they did it amazingly well, with a lot of passion. Regardless of the acquittal, if enough people come out of this being convinced that the Democrats are on the right side of history, that they're intelligent and serious about their job and that the Republicans are real sons of bitches, it could tip the election in the Dems' favor come November.
Also, yeah, Schiff is coming out of this considerably more famous and popular. No idea if he wants to run for president some day, but if he does, his performance here will help him tremendously.
"They're trying to overturn the results of the 2016 election".
YES! BECAUSE HE'S A TRAITOR AND A CRIMINAL !!! Fucking hell.
He's also a wet noodle that no one cares about at all. They gaurantee a loss this year with him.
I like Sekulow bringing up that a special counsel was appointed within six months of Trump's inauguration, during a Republican-friendly congress, as though it's some sort of proof that the evil dems have been out to get Trump all along.
No, maybe he really just always has sucked that much.