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Exactly this. It’s the conspiracy and mocking stuff of someone who clearly is Throwing us a bone. Even if it’s a bit vague. We know they actually have a track record.
Your numbers are wrong all version of SF4 is what sell 9 million .
Which is not fair to SFV since you did not have to buy the expansion if you had SFV unlike SF4 .
SF4 did not grow the Franchise like you think it did .
Yea, then it’s more valuable to say nothing. If they can’t give details, there is no value except to get people’s imagination running. It’s not intentional advertising but it’s one more thing to get the mindshare focused on how aggressive Sony will be. If it’s as big as he and others are alluding to, it’s game over. If it’s overstated like most rumors, it’s a non story until it’s actually announced.
I understand Imran doing it, he’s in between gigs and needs to prove he has value on the market. He’s a great writer and a lot of talent but he’s marketing himself here. He keeps repeating this line and each time seems more excited about it. I usually love his addition to kinda funny but this is lame. It’s an I know something you don’t know.
Have we ever gotten a breakdown on XB1 vs. PS4 for World sales?
There's one positive about PS5 exclusivity that excites me: the fact that such games will be able to be designed (read: take full advantage) with the PS5's special SSD in mind. That means, amongst other things, better level design, something about which I care a great deal.
Lmao at being warned for this. Criticizing MS for being dongs is console warring now? I own an Xbone and don't own a PS4 (or Switch) and I massively agree with this sentiment. MS first party has been clown shoes with a few exceptions.
Anyway on-topic, content exclusivity timed or otherwise is shit and Sony are being dongs too. I'd rather they do full exclusivity as there is at least benefits to doing that on the dev side.
But that's not true at all. Unless Playstation is really willing to empty the coffers all the big 3rd party moneyhats will still be coming to PC and Xbox eventually so they'll have to be designed to work there.
That and hopefully the controller is out to good use. Then we might have full parity in the market at least with a gyroscope
Console exclusives are often simultaneously released on PC, though.
That's the only way we have to compare the two, so yeah it's as fair as we can make it. Capcom sold additional versions of sfv as well so it's not like the rest of the content was all dlc.
And how do you mean sfiv didn't grow the franchise? What were sfiii sales? Significantly less than sfiv, right? So yeah it did grow the franchise. It's really not debatable
I think you're reading into things a bit too much here.
There will always be insiders dropping hints. Really not a big deal.
Right it’s not. And literally we are weeks away from the flood Now.
Don't count on it. How often was the gyro used in ps4 games?
One would’ve been completely under Sony’s control, the other has multiple parties involved.
If you look at the Capcom plat page SFVI is at 3.7 million and SFV at 4.5 million .
It's when they add SSFVI ( 1.9 million )to SFIV number you get 5.7 million ( they keep on adding the rest) but that did not grow the IP to 5.7 million people.
Since a good number of people that buy SFIV bought the expansions so your selling to the same base over and over even if a few new people jump in .
SFV has out sold SFIV but not when you add all of SFIV expansions but that over all number don't tell you about growth if it the same people buying it over all the time.
I don’t think you do understand, but in case I’m missing something can you run through how this ideally plays out? Because I don’t know how saying he knows stuff turns into him getting a job somewhere. Also what job would that be? I feel like if you’re going to say you understand and then post a theory you should have to show your work.
I think it’s time for Y2Kev to repost his competition statement from Gaf.
What you’re seeing with this IS competition. You’re seeing a market leader flexing its position to entrench it’s lead by providing a compelling value argument to its existing customers and to potential ones.
You’re also seeing it’s competitor offering its own value proposition, giving consumers the option of a low barrier to entry, lots of games as part of its insanely good value subscription service - and not even a requirement to buy a new console or controller!
Your post reminded me of all the ‘markets need parity for good competition’ posts when it became clear PS4 was pulling ahead of the XB1.
The 'market needs parity for good competition' was always a woefully naive, if not if ignorant sentiment that completely misunderstands why competition exists in the first place.
Imbalance in the market and the resulting competition is why PS4 ended up the way it did, why Xbox is going into next gen with arguably such a strong valuable proposition and consumer message.
Yep. This is the result of healthy competition.
We are seeing more 1st party studios/content than ever. A significant leap in hardware capability and innovation (moreso than previous gen). And the emergence of new services like cloud gaming and Gamepass.
I agree, it was in response to a post that suggested that the more people on PS the better. True... to a point.
Strap in folks, it's going to be a hell of a ride.
Sony making me buy the ps5 a year earlier then I thought.
I guess I see this kind of thing as a lesser 'Platform Buys Game Studio' type of thing. Say, for instance, Insomniac or Obsidian. Those companies now make games for their respective platforms. If I don't buy said platform, with Xbox it's a little muddier so I'll just stick to console, then I am shit out of luck. I cannot play Spiderman on Xbox and I cannot play Avowed on Playstation. So instead of the platforms buying a Game Studio, they Rent a Game Studio. It acts as a Bought Studio until the Rental Time is over and then they are free to rent out their game wherever they want. Which is to say I am not mad that I can't play Avowed come the next-gen. The price of my being able to - is buying the next Xbox. Same for anyone buying the Xbox and not the Playstation. You want to play Spidey then you know what to do. I am not entitled to every game but there is a sadness in once assumed multiplatform games being Rented by one side or the other - though I accept this as business people doing businessy things. I am also old and over most of the shenanigans the Video Game Industry. It's to be expected really. Especially coming into a new-gen.
You keep forgetting that sfv has had expansions too! So it is apples to apples and sfv is currently less than half of what sfiii sold. And sfiv absolutely did grow the franchise. Look at sfiii numbers. There's no denying it so the fact that you are is interesting
He’s connected. It’s a skill to add on top of great editing and writing skills. Why wouldn’t an outlet with a video game section want someone with connections. ESPN didn’t hire Woj from Yahoo because he was a nice guy. Having inside information indicates you are connected, it’s not a theory, it’s a fact. All the guys at Kinda Funny allude to him knowing stuff all the time. Being on those podcasts but not being a full time employee there is essentially the ultimate reel.
If you don’t understand this, then you don’t understand the idea of marketing yourself.
I don't like to come into threads where I am the subject because people are usually not polite and any appearance leads to 30 notifications asking "Where's the details, tho?"
But yes. Echoing what Matt said. There isn't a major third party out there Sony failed to approach asking what kind of deals they could work out. Some had content, some had games, some had content and games. It is not like Microsoft was not willing to offer, they just didn't want to pay the asking price, because Sony approached with pretty high numbers in the first place.
That "PlayStation Advantage" branding and "Console Exclusive" wording are both going to get a lot of use in the next few years.
But yes. Echoing what Matt said. There isn't a major third party out there Sony failed to approach asking what kind of deals they could work out. Some had content, some had games, some had content and games. It is not like Microsoft was not willing to offer, they just didn't want to pay the asking price, because Sony approached with pretty high numbers in the first place.
That "PlayStation Advantage" branding and "Console Exclusive" wording are both going to get a lot of use in the next few years.
In the case of SFV what they sold were compilations of dlc that were released to that point. With SFIV you were forced to outright rebuy discs/the whole game if you wanted to update to the newest expansion
I appreciate insights like this. it’s def annoying people can’t just take what you all are saying. All signs are point to exactly this scenario. I know we will find out a lot more in the next 90 days and even within the launch year. Thanks for even giving these kind of insights.
So, Sony flexed.... very hard. A bold strategy as an opener to the next gen.
Also, "Where's the details, tho?" :P
Yeah this is getting a bit off topic. I initially said I didn't expect sfv to be ps5 exclusive due to the sfiv results. Not sure Sony could pay enough for the millions of lost sales. Plus, with sf becoming more and more gaas Capcom will want this in as many hands as possible.
I know after Sword and Shield people are disappointed with Gen 8 pokemon, but calling them scum is not cool.
It's not apple to apples since you did not have to buy the upgrades for SFV to play them they came free.
If i wanted to play the new characters in SFIV i had to buy a new game , i did not have to do that in SFV.
It's why capcom have them as different titles on there sales chart where SFV only as one .
SFIV sold 3.7 million and SFV is at 4.5 million your are talking about growing the user base but not look at context of everything .
SFV upgrades and new charters playable with out buying anything unlike SFIV .
This is going to get spicy and all sorts of dicey.... At least the reveal threads are going to be Era classics for sure
Appreciate the insight.
I realize I'm not only adding to your notifications but also asking for "more info" here, but I'm curious if you've heard anything regarding Sony's relationship with EA. I only ask because Jeff Grubb speculated they might not be on on the best terms right now. As he said, it's probably nothing, but I'm curious nonetheless. Sounds like they were supposed to showcase Fifa in June.
Not it is not .
Here are the official sales for there titles from capcom .
Platinum Titles |Product Data | CAPCOM
Titles which sold more than 1 million copies each are listed with videos and screen shots.
www.capcom.co.jp
Where you buy the game once for SFV and that is it , are you going to say capcom numbers wrong .
They had some fallout over Madden but I don't know much beyond what Grubb knows. I doubt it has any real effect in terms of releases.
So Sony is busting into every mayor publisher's HQ, Kool-aid man style, with bags of cash on hand, getting every possible deal they can grab?
A comment was made about Sony busting out the warchest (TM) to make sure PS5 had a stacked first year....
I wonder if that covers Ghostwire and Deathloop only, or if there are more AAA exclusivity deals for year 1 we don't know yet
A comment was made about Sony busting out the warchest (TM) to make sure PS5 had a stacked first year....
I wonder if that covers Ghostwire and Deathloop only, or if there are more AAA exclusivity deals for year 1 we don't know yet
Seeing these reports from industry insiders just confirms the fact that the first 2 to 3 years will be very barren first party wise for Sony yet again. There's no other reason to do this unless you know your tent-pole studios aren't ready to drop games anytime soon and you need to draw attention away from this by massaging the lineup with timed exclusives. Games like Final Fantasy and others being discussed as candidates for timed exclusivity already have lopsided platform splits in favor of PlayStation anyways.
Well Bethesda obviously bit. I wonder if the next Wolfenstein would be exclusive for a period. That seems like the right tier to make it affordable yet effective.
Random thought: I wonder what it would be like if Sony secured timed exclusivity for Elden Ring for PS5 (PS4 and XB1 versions remain unaffected).
Yes it is. You're forgetting to add the other versions of sfiv. And your reason makes no sense. Capcom splits them up because they're selling to the same people? So what? Why would Capcom split them because of that? Makes no sense.Not it is not .
Here are the official sales for there titles from capcom .
The reason capcom separate them is because you have the same people buying the game over and over again .Platinum Titles |Product Data | CAPCOM
Titles which sold more than 1 million copies each are listed with videos and screen shots.
Where you buy the game once for SFV and that is it are you going to say capcom numbers wrong .
I think capcom not splitting up sfv is the more interesting thing. Probably because it underperformed pretty significantly and capcom is trying to put it in the best light.
The other thing to consider: capcom released multiple new versions of sfiv starting ONE year after the original release. This definitely cut the skin off at the knees and the base have would be much much higher if the later versions came later.
Sfiv grew the franchise. Sfv contracted it
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