In Bioshock did you save the Little Sisters or harvest them for ADAM?

[AnansiThePersona]

Everybody's played Bioshock at this point. Near the beginning of the game you encounter Little Sisters who are protected by Big Daddies which you have to kill to save (or harvest) the Little Sister.

If you save a couple Little Sisters in a row the lady who runs an orphanage or something shows up and gives you a gift with ADAM and other powerups inside. If you harvest the Sisters immediately, you get instant ADAM and don't have to wait to save 3-4 in a row to get your reward.

What I did at the beginning was go 50/50 with the Sisters harvesting some and saving others. But later, as the game progresses, I started harvesting them all cause I needed points immediately to upgrade my plasmids.

I learned this is abnormal and almost everyone tried to save them all or some shit. And then I got a bad ending. Whoops.

What did you do in your first playthrough of Bioshock?

 

[WrenchNinja]

I saved them cause I wanted the good ending.

 

[Joyful]

save because you get more adam that way iirc

 

[Deleted member 8112]

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[LonestarZues]

I saved them all.

 

[MadeULook]

Saved. Pretty sure you get more overall ADAM too.

EDIT: Oh yeah, they give you a bunch of extra stuff too.

 

[AnansiThePersona]

Yikes. I did not expect everyone to have posted to have saved them all. Uhhhh....

 

[OmniBaneSolid]

Saved them all out of pragmatism and virtual guilt.

 

[Bakercat]

Save them not only for the good ending, but you get more Adam in the end and some other little goodies left by the little sisters.

 

[RoyaleDuke]

I hate kids but like, man I can't stand seeing them hurt in any way.

So like, I saved them, guys.

All of them. I was the hero.

Yaaay.

 

[BrickArts295]

Save them because I didn't want to see what would happen if I didn't. I too young when I played this XD

 

[Indelible]

I remember saving them, it was more rewarding at the end.

 

[uncelestial]

I harvested a few of them but then kinda stopped when I realized I was plenty strong and the game was encouraging me not to.

Normally I play very "Paragon" -- I was clean as a whistle in Mass Effect.

 

[Deleted member 3058]

Saved them all.

As far as morality choices go this is the "Do you want to save the kitten or burn down the whole village" equivalent. There's literally no upside to the alternative other than degeneracy.

 

[Shan]

Saved them all on my first playthrough, of course eventually I did the opposite to see the other ending but usually I always save them.

 

[Clay]

Saved them all my first play through. They didn't do a great job of balancing it, especially once you get your first teddy bear gift package and realize that you're likely not sacrificing that much Adam for doing the Good ending. I never felt hamstrung for lack of Adam.

Saved them all on my first playthrough, of course eventually I did the opposite to see the other ending but usually I always save them.

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I'll have to YouTube it real quick, but why do the Sisters help you during the final boss if you've been killing them the whole game? Do they address that, or does Tenenbaum figure the whole place is going down if she doesn't help you?

 

[AnansiThePersona]

Saved them all.

As far as morality choices go this is the "Do you want to save the kitten or burn down the whole village" equivalent. There's literally no upside to the alternative other than degeneracy.

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But how much do you want those points right now? You could have them now instead of later. And then you get to pick up a cool slug. There were benefits.

 

[KarmaCow]

Yikes. I did not expect everyone to have posted to have saved them all. Uhhhh....

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Even putting aside the long term reward, there's basically no reason to do it other than for maybe speedrun optimization. The game isn't challenging and there's no real pressure to try out new abilities so you get enough ADAM without harvesting them to get through the game.

 

[Clay]

Even putting aside the long term reward, there's basically no reason to do it other than for maybe speedrun optimization. The game isn't challenging and there's no real pressure to try out new abilities so you get enough ADAM without harvesting them to get through the game.

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Not only do you get enough, as others have pointed out you actually get MORE Adam by saving them all once you factor in the Thank You gifts they occasionally leave you.

Edit: Actually a quick Google search shows that the total amounts you get are basically equal, Sacrifice gets you like 50 more Adam but you get exclusive plasmids by Saving including one that lets you hypnotize Big Daddies to fight for you.

But anyway, you're not really punished with less Adam for saving them all.

 

[Biw]

Don't fret OP. You're not alone. I harvested every one of those little bastards.

 

[Silky]

Saved them. Boy it's a good thing Bioshock's binary choices are absolutely meaningless in the end

 

[Hesdry]

Kill the first, save the rest. Still a hero.

 

[ssnick37]

I harvested them all. The I watched the good ending on YouTube.

 

[ItWasMeantToBe19]

Okay, this was literally the easiest "moral choice" in the history of video games.

"Do you want to murder little girls or not and also the reward is the same."

I'm genuinely baffled at anyone who chose to murder the little girls.

 

[Megatron]

I saved them all.

 

[Raxus]

Saved, heck it even worked out better for you in the long term.

 

[Dantero]

Saved all. Iff i killed little girls what kind of daddy would I be.

 

[KarmaCow]

Not only do you get enough, as others have pointed out you actually get MORE Adam by saving them all once you factor in the Thank You gifts they occasionally leave you.

Edit: Actually a quick Google search shows that the total amounts you get are basically equal, Sacrifice gets you like 50 more Adam but you get exclusive plasmids by Saving including one that lets you hypnotize Big Daddies to fight for you.

But anyway, you're not really punished with less Adam for saving them all.

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Like I said, even putting the long term reward aside it was just one of those feckless binary morality systems of the 2000s that couldn't be significant enough for it to matter so they had to resort to shock value (murder children? yes/no) to make it at all noteworthy.

 

[AlexFlame116]

I saved them all of course! I'm their angel and eventually their daddy! How could I kill such adorable children?

 

[SoundCheck]

Saved them all, of course.

 

[Neptonic]

literally no reason to kill them
you get less stuff if you do

 

[M. Wallace]

Harvested those little bastards

 

[きゃりーぱみゅぱみゅ]

I saved them because it never felt like it made any sense to harvest them. I didn't need ADAM that bad.

 

[Khanimus]

Saved them. The game never actually posits a scenario in which you need ADAM that badly, and even then, you get more by letting them live, plus the good ending.

It's a morality system that is utterly meaningless. The light side/dark side paths of Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight had more complexity....

 

[Dogui]

It would be better if saving a little sister meant that you couldn't use plasmids at all. Imagine the scenario, "there's incredible powers that can be obtained only by killing cute helpless little girls". As a bonus, the game would be hard as balls to finish without the plasmids.

I saved them all of course, i'm not a heartless edgelord.

 

[Biw]

Okay, this was literally the easiest "moral choice" in the history of video games.

"Do you want to murder little girls or not and also the reward is the same."

I'm genuinely baffled at anyone who chose to murder the little girls.

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I routinely play the bad guy in games when given the choice. In this case, it's pretty rare to be given the choice to kill children in a game. Having heard of the multiple endings of the game, I wanted to see what would happen if I did.

I hope you're not still baffled.

 

[Troublematic]

There's not a lot of incentive to be evil in the game. I'm a bit conflicted whether it would make sense to incentivize the evil route, as people might perceive it so that the going good is punished. I guess the design is correct in that it gives the evil route more instant gratification while rewarding the good path later on to make people feel like they made the right choice. It's just something that's a bit of pet peeve for me in games. There's no inherent physical reward in real life for abstaining from opportunistic behavior, other than feeling morally superior and not having to potentially deal with backlash if you get caught. I think it would make more sense from a logical perspective that the evil routes should offer more benefit, at the risk of getting caught and being punished by those that find it "evil".

 

[Lucreto]

Played the games six times and never contemplated harvest.

 

[GamerDude]

You should add a poll:

What did you do when encountering the Little Sisters?
1) Saved them all
2) Harvested them all
3) A mixture

 

[Strike]

I harvested one.

 

[Aztechnology]

What am I a monster? I set them all "free".

 

[Deleted member 19868]

I saved them all and never felt like I needed the Adam "right now." I always felt like I had plenty of combat options.

 

[Gurish]

That "moral system" was so lame, of course I saved them all. The only reason not to is if you are doing a second playthrough and you want to see the other ending.

 

[SephLuis]

I saved them all.

I don't like Bioshock too much as a game, but the good ending was nothing short of perfection.

I doubt I would ever play harvesting them.

 

[TheMoon]

why would you not save them when that gives you nothing but benefits (and isn't ultra shitty and immature)

 

[newmoneytrash]

harvested :(

i didn't know you got bonus ADAM for saving them so i just went with the one that gave you the most

 

[Green Mario]

I saved them. It was more satisfying.

 

[CloudWolf]

The choice was really poorly done, if you calculated the numbers you got more ADAM by saving them all. There was literally no reason to harvest them except "lol evil"

 

[Duxxy3]

I have played through both games multiple times (as well as the DLC). I've never once considered harvesting them.

 

[ResetGreyWolf]

Always saved them. When games give you the blatant options of A is good and B is bad I always go for A on my first playthrough.