They're reviewing a movie, not a Brie Larson interview.
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In Captain Marvel review, RedLetterMedia don't discuss the film for over 15 minutes as they talk about Brie Larson's comments on diversity
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I occasionally check out RLM's reviews because they often have an insight or two about the films they review. But I couldn't get through this one. Two guys spent the first 10-15 minutes being snarky about a woman's call for diversity is just plain weird and pathetic. What does that have anything to do with the movie? Nothing!
These guys have been legit awful for years. Anytime diversity or representation comes up it's always this sneery shit they pull. I really don't know what people find entertaining about them. If I ever see that absolute trash gif again, it will be too soon.
If you follow RLM at all you know they're left leaning, progressive, and support diversity. They can be critical even if they miss the mark sometimes, unfortunately this is one of those times.
The one on the right had a fairly reasonable take. The ugly nasal one was just a typical annoying internet neckbeard.
Yeah this is what I'm getting from the video as well. I do like watching them even if I did enjoy the movie.
They kind of have to address it because Brie Larson criticized them twice (both as white men and white male critics). And frankly that topic she brought up is more interesting than the movie. Also the people who made the movie decided to use the movie as a vehicle to discuss social justice topic, it's fair game to discuss it for everybody else.
Oh, so I guess thats why they also did it for TFA, Daisy Ridley should've kept her opinions to herself
What are you talk about, the RLM TFA review was entirely about the movie. Did you confuse it with Ghostbuster review or something?
I've made horrible thoughtless jokes around friends also. Like, you can tell when it's actual punching down humor like on Fox News when some talking head on Hannity goes "ayyy homeboy, see me on the block!" to a black guest or some shit. But Rich fucking around talking fake Chinese? That doesn't really ping on my radar. People can't make shit jokes anymore without being just tossed to the "terrible people" bin? Fucking hell.
Right. So many people on ERA rag on anime and then eat this endless shit up
Yeah, they probably spent a little too long talking about Brie Larson.
Yeah, that video of Rich making fun of Mandarin was a poor choice on his part, along the rest of them laughing at it.
But those are two relatively mild missteps in hundreds of hours of clever humor, so-stupid-it's-clever humor, and thoughtful film criticism that I will give them a pass.
Yeah, that video of Rich making fun of Mandarin was a poor choice on his part, along the rest of them laughing at it.
But those are two relatively mild missteps in hundreds of hours of clever humor, so-stupid-it's-clever humor, and thoughtful film criticism that I will give them a pass.
Oh I won't defend them, just saying that I am still a fan of the vast majority of RLMs content.
This post is not even disingenuous but acting like we're fucking idiots. What you and Rich did are racist and people can appropriately judge you for that.
Seriously, what have that has shown that besides you wanting to believe that?
I agree with this. But that's why I find this thread so irrational. If you've watched you know they kinda fall on the liberal side of the spectrum. But then I see posts like this...
and think people have gone batshit.
No. The character Monica Rambeau (who is portrayed as a young girl here, and whose mother is best friends with Carol Danvers) has had the name Captain Marvel before in the comics, but has gone by other aliases (Photon, Pulsar, currently Spectrum), and hasn't gone by the 'Captain Marvel' moniker since the 90's.
The Captain Marvel name has also belonged to multiple heroes within Marvel. Carol Danvers (formerly Ms. Marvel) has had the title since 2012, and was confirmed to be the focus of the movie shortly after it was announced in 2014. Larson wasn't attached for acouple years still.
Monica, with her mother's relationship with Carol and the inherent time skip between this movie and the current Marvel films, is clearly being set up for some kind of superhero role in future films.
Lmao ok dude, all that's missing is him slanting his eyes.
You wanna make excuses for out of touch white guys making racists jokes and following it up with "that's just the way they talk"..
Thanks for showing your ass, congrats.
This is absolutely punching down. Wake up.
Honestly they had been on a roll with much better takes but this shit was disgusting and it infuriates me to no end when they think that representation in cinema isn't important and its stupid to whine about it. Like theyre basically perfectly emulating what Larson was saying when she said she didn't need to hear what a white 40 year old man has to say about a movie.
This
Is the joke "I'm going to mockingly replicate what a Chinese person sounds like?" Is that the super awesome joke we're at risk of losing here?
They aren't alt-right but they sure run parallel in some key areas. Every. Single. Time.
This whole video is embarrassing. RLM carefully opining that Captain Marvel isn't good representation because she gets her powers from an explosion and not feminism is peak dumbshit internet criticism.
I loved RLM's content back during the first year of Best of the Worst, and their Mr. Plinkett reviews, but I more or less stopped watching once they made their TFA's review. It's clear that while they're capable of being talented critics, and can be really funny at times, they have some pretty ignorant views about many progressive issues and can easily be labeled as "fragile white dudes".
Not really sad I've passed up their content for a while.
This dude's great.
Not really sad I've passed up their content for a while.
This dude's great.
Between this, BP and TFA it seems like RLM is the sort of "Ally" who is ok with you until you start speaking up and they start to feel uncomfortable.
Yes much ado about nothing. I would say they harp on it too long, but the core of what they are saying is pretty true.
I think a lot of it comes from this stupid cynical view they have where they think studios attempting to prop up their movie as a beacon for social justice is a marketing move to get hype for their movie. The fucking problem is, even if thats true, so the fuck what?
They also seem to think that representation or having fictional characters on screen that people can relate to is stupid despite the fact that none of them can say the same hasn't been influential for them growing up and the movies/stories/fictional characters they were influenced by.
Its just stupid dumb logic all around and its frustrating that they keep going back to that well.
These guys are the poster boys for white male fragility. I remember them getting their panties in a twist over the casting diversity for TFA, TLJ, and Black Panther so I pretty much stopped watching because I'm probably too diverse an audience for them.
In all honesty the only worthwile content on that channel are plinketts prequel reviews everything else is trash.
In all honesty the only worthwile content on that channel are plinketts prequel reviews everything else is trash.
A fat white dude at an Asian restaurant mocking his waitress is punching down. In the right context on a show? I just don't think it is. Context is king. If Rich didn't let it go and was all like "And here's another thing I got to say about those little chinamen!" Then I'd call that bullshit real quick. But that was just some dudes laughing at some really low brow Family Guy level humor without an inch of malice in sight.
So, I guess everyone involved in this scene is a racist? I mean, they even included the slant eyes...
Not every little thing is trying to keep POC or minorities down. Sometimes shit is just a joke, guys.
I don't know if everyone in that scene was racist but you certainly are.
Diet racism is still racism, and yes, it makes you a shitty person.
Yeah, definitely agree. They clearly have an issue with underrepresented, disenfranchised groups and don't have much of an issue letting everyone know their stance on at any occasion they get.
I feel it pretty much comes down to how do you feel about big corporations finally monetizing diversity for profits, are you fine with it or do you feel actual progress is made elsewhere and without profit margins in mind
Its certainly a take but a clear one and im finding it hard to call them fucking alt right for critizing big companies and their products from that standpoint
Its certainly a take but a clear one and im finding it hard to call them fucking alt right for critizing big companies and their products from that standpoint
So you agree that with that guy and by proxy RLM claiming Larson decided to shit on white men because she's sad she's not a black woman and thus the most oppressed?
You're kind of proving his point.
Or, to put it another way: why do you think that Extras scene is funny? Like in your opinion what's the joke there?
You seem to believe that racism doesn't exist if it's a joke. This is blatant ignorance.
What do you think he meant when he said "that's not racism that's just the way they talk" genius?
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This is true to you?
Do you believe Brie Larson wishes she was black so she could be more oppressed but since she can't be black she shat on white men instead?
So what's your solution? Stop celebrating thoughtful representation and diversity because Disney doesn't "mean it" enough? Like yeah, multi-billion dollar entertainment conglomerate likes money. No fucking shit. This isn't some galaxy-brain revelation here. So do we tell all the brown kids excited for a Kamala Khan movie that they can't have it until Disney proves they're doing it for "the right reasons", whatever that fucking means?
This shit ain't about Disney or RLM or any motherfucker that wants to paint inclusion as "clearly a cynical attempt at getting money." No one gives a fuck. It's about people who feel ignored because the color of their skin, their gender, their race, who they love etc. means they will never be on a fucking poster. That feel like the shit they deal with is never brought on screen. Not every black person wants to have themselves represented with "hey, remember when you guys were slaves?" Not every muslim wants to know that the only markets they've got cornered in Hollywood are "goofy taxi driver/store clerk" or fundamentalist nutjob. Not every woman wants to be relegated to half-written love interests or skimpily-dressed victims of assault. Maybe, just fucking maybe, people wanna feel like the fucking hero and don't give a shit if Disney makes money in the process.
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How this doesn't just end any conversation about these fuckheads, is baffling to me. If you watch this shit and still defend them, then I don't know what to tell you. You're racist.
That's not what they said even slightly. I watched the whole video. They literally do not say this.
The part that's true is people stupidly lapping up a giant corporations bullshit when they cynically glom on to social movements, or try to turn it into controversy to their benefit. The "charity" donations to put money into the pockets of the worlds largest media conglomerate is super fucking gross. If it were really a concern to Disney they'd give free showings to young girls or something along those lines.
More people should have a watch of HBomberguys video on "woke brands" and "woke capitalism".
These companies and their marketing teams are intentionally manipulating us. Controversy breeds publicity. That's whats gross. The manipulation.
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No, I said context is king. In the context of Rich's joke, I don't see the malice needed to take an otherwise racist stereotype joke all the way home into the "I hate Asians" category . And the "they talk like that..." is problematic, absolutely, but I also see the look he gives the camera before he does an impression of "my drunk racist uncle" with his body language before he says it. Dude is fucking joking. I mean, it's super obvious.
Does Rich need some time outside of his middle American bubble to know that "ching chong" whatever is no beuno, probably. Is Rich the next David fucking Duke about to rally some proud boys to beat some black kids up? Probably not.
THe crazy thing is, multibillion dollar multinational Disney is just the smoke screen in all of this. The real target of all the vitriol is Brie Larson, who is just a contractor, and her statements made IIRX independent of her contract with the MCU. These are her personal views towards diversity and inclusiveness that they are targeting, not Disney's.