They're reviewing a movie, not a Brie Larson interview.
They're reviewing a movie, not a Brie Larson interview.
This is pretty standard lefty stuff... Not really MRA shit. I would recommend really watching the entirety of what they are trying to say.
I'll summarize:
- They are critical of people attaching social justice concerns to a massive corporate film. Both those on Youtube who make dozens of videos shitting on the film or Larson and those who feel like the movie is important.
- Mention the charity thing that gave tickets to underprivileged kids to go see the movie as an example of faux wokeness.
- They center most of the criticism of Larson specifically due to a speech she made at a conference that they think came from her realizing she's not a black woman and thus not the lowest on the totem pole of having to struggle so she decides to shit on white male film critics and how they give negative reviews to films like A Wrinkle in Time. "These movies aren't for them" is what she says. This is the main focus of this part of the video. The main thing they take issue with here is someone using lack of representation as an excuse for a movie doing poorly (they show images of white men giving Larson's films positive reviews).
- They say that having more voices in film criticism is good and that their is probably a kernel of what she was trying to say. They sight the documentary about the history of African Americans in horror and how it presented ideas that Jay would never have thought of. Basically they think she framed it all wrong.
- Film criticism is the least important thing in the whole world on the scale of social justice. They namedrop films like Tangerine as movies that would be worthy of this level of discourse. Films that got great reviews from white men.
I don't think the RLM guys are perfect, but there has been this weird conflating them with alt-right people.
These guys have been legit awful for years. Anytime diversity or representation comes up it's always this sneery shit they pull. I really don't know what people find entertaining about them. If I ever see that absolute trash gif again, it will be too soon.
They kind of have to address it because Brie Larson criticized them twice (both as white men and white male critics). And frank that topic she brought up is more interesting than the movie.
Oh, so I guess thats why they also did it for TFA, Daisy Ridley should've kept her opinions to herself
Yup thank you.
RLM fans, where you at on "just watch them for the entertainment"?
These your boys
Right. So many people on ERA rag on anime and then eat this endless shit up
Ching chong jokes and "that's the way they talk" aren't enough for you to stop watching these racist assholes?
Or do they need a 17th chance
This post is not even disingenuous but acting like we're fucking idiots. What you and Rich did are racist and people can appropriately judge you for that.I've made horrible thoughtless jokes around friends also. Like, you can tell when it's actual punching down humor like on Fox News when some talking head on Hannity goes "ayyy homeboy, see me on the block!" to a black guest or some shit. But Rich fucking around talking fake Chinese? That doesn't really ping on my radar. People can't make shit jokes anymore without being just tossed to the "terrible people" bin? Fucking hell.
Seriously, what have that has shown that besides you wanting to believe that?If you follow RLM at all you know they're left leaning, progressive, and support diversity. They can be critical even if they miss the mark sometimes, unfortunately this is one of those times.
If you follow RLM at all you know they're left leaning, progressive, and support diversity. They can be critical even if they miss the mark sometimes, unfortunately this is one of those times.
RLM is 4-chan trash, how is it a bad post if it's true?
I guess it's like saying the sky is blue?
No. The character Monica Rambeau (who is portrayed as a young girl here, and whose mother is best friends with Carol Danvers) has had the name Captain Marvel before in the comics, but has gone by other aliases (Photon, Pulsar, currently Spectrum), and hasn't gone by the 'Captain Marvel' moniker since the 90's.12 minutes in and they seem to be mentioning some upset Captan Marvel wasn't cast as a Black Woman, was that a rumor before Larson was chosen or something?
larson and disney are specifically trying to make this movie about the meta-situation surrounding it
Lmao ok dude, all that's missing is him slanting his eyes.I've made horrible thoughtless jokes around friends also. Like, you can tell when it's actual punching down humor like on Fox News when some talking head on Hannity goes "ayyy homeboy, see me on the block!" to a black guest or some shit. But Rich fucking around talking fake Chinese? That doesn't really ping on my radar. People can't make shit jokes anymore without being just tossed to the "terrible people" bin? Fucking hell.
ThisBut not everything is always made for everyone.
And all RLM did with their white fragility bitching, was prove Brie was right.
Is the joke "I'm going to mockingly replicate what a Chinese person sounds like?" Is that the super awesome joke we're at risk of losing here?I've made horrible thoughtless jokes around friends also. Like, you can tell when it's actual punching down humor like on Fox News when some talking head on Hannity goes "ayyy homeboy, see me on the block!" to a black guest or some shit. But Rich fucking around talking fake Chinese? That doesn't really ping on my radar. People can't make shit jokes anymore without being just tossed to the "terrible people" bin? Fucking hell.
I don't think the RLM guys are perfect, but there has been this weird conflating them with alt-right people.
Yes much ado about nothing. I would say they harp on it too long, but the core of what they are saying is pretty true.
I think a lot of it comes from this stupid cynical view they have where they think studios attempting to prop up their movie as a beacon for social justice is a marketing move to get hype for their movie. The fucking problem is, even if thats true, so the fuck what?Between this, BP and TFA it seems like RLM is the sort of "Ally" who is ok with you until you start speaking up and they start to feel uncomfortable.
No one made "white men" the enemy.i have it more than people thinking they're alt-right adjacent just because they're talking about a movie studio run by white men with a privileged white woman lead cynically monetizing diversity and using it as a shield from criticism, making "40 year old white men" the villains for calling a movie mediocre when the same ones have liked other diverse movies that weren't formulaic studio tentpoles
Lmao ok dude, all that's missing is him slanting his eyes.
You wanna make excuses for out of touch white guys making racists jokes and following it up with "that's just the way they talk"..
Thanks for showing your ass, congrats.
This is absolutely punching down. Wake up.
i have it more than people thinking they're alt-right adjacent just because they're talking about a movie studio run by white men with a privileged white woman lead cynically monetizing diversity and using it as a shield from criticism, making "40 year old white men" the villains for calling a movie mediocre when the same ones have liked other diverse movies that weren't formulaic studio tentpoles
I don't know if everyone in that scene was racist but you certainly are.So, I guess everyone involved in this scene is a racist? I mean, they even included the slant eyes...
I've made horrible thoughtless jokes around friends also. Like, you can tell when it's actual punching down humor like on Fox News when some talking head on Hannity goes "ayyy homeboy, see me on the block!" to a black guest or some shit. But Rich fucking around talking fake Chinese? That doesn't really ping on my radar. People can't make shit jokes anymore without being just tossed to the "terrible people" bin? Fucking hell.
The excuses these guys get on this forum is nothing short of pathetic.
Except white men 🌚
It's unfunny and definitely racist. Sorry.I've made horrible thoughtless jokes around friends also. Like, you can tell when it's actual punching down humor like on Fox News when some talking head on Hannity goes "ayyy homeboy, see me on the block!" to a black guest or some shit. But Rich fucking around talking fake Chinese? That doesn't really ping on my radar. People can't make shit jokes anymore without being just tossed to the "terrible people" bin? Fucking hell.
Yeah this is what I'm getting from the video as well. I do like watching them even if I did enjoy the movie.
"They center most of the criticism of Larson specifically due to a speech she made at a conference that they think came from her realizing she's not a black woman and thus not the lowest on the totem pole of having to struggle so she decides to shit on white male film critics"
A fat white dude at an Asian restaurant mocking his waitress is punching down. In the right context on a show? I just don't think it is. Context is king. If Rich didn't let it go and was all like "And here's another thing I got to say about those little chinamen!" Then I'd call that bullshit real quick. But that was just some dudes laughing at some really low brow Family Guy level humor without an inch of malice in sight.
So, I guess everyone involved in this scene is a racist? I mean, they even included the slant eyes...
Not every little thing is trying to keep POC or minorities down. Sometimes shit is just a joke, guys.
They've become what they fear most: "woke savant".
A fat white dude at an Asian restaurant mocking his waitress is punching down. In the right context on a show? I just don't think it is. Context is king. If Rich didn't let it go and was all like "And here's another thing I got to say about those little chinamen!" Then I'd call that bullshit real quick. But that was just some dudes laughing at some really low brow Family Guy level humor without an inch of malice in sight.
So, I guess everyone involved in this scene is a racist? I mean, they even included the slant eyes...
Not every little thing is trying to keep POC or minorities down. Sometimes shit is just a joke, guys.
Yes much ado about nothing. I would say they harp on it too long, but the core of what they are saying is pretty true.
"They center most of the criticism of Larson specifically due to a speech she made at a conference that they think came from her realizing she's not a black woman and thus not the lowest on the totem pole of having to struggle so she decides to shit on white male film critics"
So what's your solution? Stop celebrating thoughtful representation and diversity because Disney doesn't "mean it" enough? Like yeah, multi-billion dollar entertainment conglomerate likes money. No fucking shit. This isn't some galaxy-brain revelation here. So do we tell all the brown kids excited for a Kamala Khan movie that they can't have it until Disney proves they're doing it for "the right reasons", whatever that fucking means?I feel it pretty much comes down to how do you feel about big corporations finally monetizing diversity for profits, are you fine with it or do you feel actual progress is made elsewhere and without profit margins in mind
Its certainly a take but a clear one and im finding it hard to call them fucking alt right for critizing big companies and their products from that standpoint
That's not what they said even slightly. I watched the whole video. They literally do not say this.This is true to you?
Do you believe Brie Larson wishes she was black so she could be more oppressed but since she can't be black she shat on white men instead?
You seem to believe that racism doesn't exist if it's a joke. This is ignorance at its finest.
What do you think he meant when he said "that's not racism that's just the way they talk" genius?
THe crazy thing is, multibillion dollar multinational Disney is just the smoke screen in all of this. The real target of all the vitriol is Brie Larson, who is just a contractor, and her statements made IIRX independent of her contract with the MCU. These are her personal views towards diversity and inclusiveness that they are targeting, not Disney's.So what's your solution? Stop celebrating thoughtful representation and diversity because Disney doesn't "mean it" enough? Like yeah, multi-billion dollar entertainment conglomerate likes money. No fucking shit. This isn't some galaxy-brain revelation here. So do we tell all the brown kids excited for a Kamala Khan movie that they can't have it until Disney proves they're doing it for "the right reasons", whatever that fucking means?