Blagh, RLM stopped being actually about film reviews years ago, and more about nerd rage.
Not everything need be one or the other concerning RLM.
Blagh, RLM stopped being actually about film reviews years ago, and more about nerd rage.
This loltbh after just having seen the film, the story surrounding the film is more interesting than the film itself so can't blame them for wanting to talk about it more
Who's being condescending? For the record I enjoyed the shit out of Captain Marvel, but still doesn't change that I feel a little wary of companies and anyone who stands to profit from controversy.
This bit is just beyond embarrassing:
"She comes across like just the most dismissive, nasty, snarky person"
*cut to Brie Larson talking in a 100% inoccuous tone*
(Five bonus embarrassment points for snarkingly implying she's saying "amidextrous" when she clearly pronounces it "ambidextrous").
Do these guys just shit on any woman that behaves short of a smiling Stepford wife? The fuck is going on there?
While yes, Disney ultimately profits, that doesn't mean that what Brie Larson is doing with pushing for more disabled people, women & POC to get a chance to do the usual press crap that is generally automagically given to men to cover is a bad thing. Her efforts might be somewhat powered by the Evil Big Corporation Only In It For The Money but she's still doing some good with the brief moment of heightened visibility & power she is granted by being the face of a Marvel movie.Who's being condescending? For the record I enjoyed the shit out of Captain Marvel, but still doesn't change that I feel a little wary of companies and anyone who stands to profit from controversy.
Are you calling us psychos? i guess being a sycophant has it's perks.
To get from them discussing this controversy to "4chan trash" is just plain ridiculous. I don't claim to know them personally but they showed time and time again that their obviously left-leaning and liberal and support diversity, yet every thread where they're mentioned someone just has to refuel this argument about them being racist. People out for bloodAre you calling us psychos? i guess being a sycophant has it's perks.
To get from them discussing this controversy to "4chan trash" is just plain ridiculous. I don't claim to know them personally but they showed time and time again that their obviously left-leaning and liberal and support diversity, yet every thread where they're mentioned someone just has to refuel this argument about them being racist. People out for blood
Claiming liberal values doesn't mean much when you then go on 15 minute misogynistic diatribes about how a woman comes off so OVERLY NEGATIVE just because they want to enact some change in the system and are vocal about it, or say some racist garbage and don't see any issues with it. Like, can't Brie Larson just shut up and not be such a negative nancy. Go sit in the corner and be quiet & pretty.To get from them discussing this controversy to "4chan trash" is just plain ridiculous. I don't claim to know them personally but they showed time and time again that their obviously left-leaning and liberal and support diversity, yet every thread where they're mentioned someone just has to refuel this argument about them being racist. People out for blood
Show me that because even when I watched them I didn't have that opinion.To get from them discussing this controversy to "4chan trash" is just plain ridiculous. I don't claim to know them personally but they showed time and time again that their obviously left-leaning and liberal and support diversity, yet every thread where they're mentioned someone just has to refuel this argument about them being racist. People out for blood
To get from them discussing this controversy to "4chan trash" is just plain ridiculous. I don't claim to know them personally but they showed time and time again that their obviously left-leaning and liberal and support diversity, yet every thread where they're mentioned someone just has to refuel this argument about them being racist. People out for blood
BZZZT. Wrong.time and time again that their obviously left-leaning and liberal and support diversity
They have ?they showed time and time again that their obviously left-leaning and liberal and support diversity
Do you remember when these things were discussed? I mean, in what episodes. I'd love to see that and if I'm wrong I stand corrected about what I said up thereLiterally one person said this is 4-chan tier comedy. 1. Person. Sanjuro, ara and others pointing it out as though it's some widespread thing is just eye-rolly to say the least.
As for their political views: They have a long and consistent history of crappy statements related to diversity, the impact it can have on younger people growing up etc. that they just don't grasp. Honestly, in large part because they grew up privileged and in a society that already catered to them because they're seen as the default. So they don't get why it might matter to other people. They almost do when they acknowledge the importance of a variety of critics/voices but then they go right back to not getting why it matters.
And as for being left/liberal leaning, they also have years history of shitty trans 'jokes'. Among other 'jokes'. They have said some good things here and there (Josh/Jack more so of the 'main' crew, Jay to a lesser degree) but they really fail to grasp why people care about diversity in media. Forcing myself to watch this video (as I've largely dropped them after being a die-hard fan for a good while) it almost felt like they got it in a few places. But then they said the same stuff they have since Ghostbusters/TFA/BP. That's not even getting into the weird arguments they made about Brie Larson's tone.
Repeatedly.
Yeah I don't think they're going he worst people in the world or anything, but this is like a huge blindspots and sticking point for them. I think they know they have a certain type of fan who eats this shit up.If you follow RLM at all you know they're left leaning, progressive, and support diversity. They can be critical even if they miss the mark sometimes, unfortunately this is one of those times.
What controversy, and why did they have to address it ?I watch RLM quite a bit but yeah when I saw this video it was disappointing. I feel like it's important to address the "controversy" a bit, but they came off very poor.
the Plinkett TFA review, Wonder Woman and Black Panther. To name a few.Do you remember when these things were discussed? I mean, in what episodes. I'd love to see that and if I'm wrong I stand corrected about what I said up there
edit: to the people replying to me, I don't have examples that I remember off the top of my head, this is the impression I got from them after watching hours upon hours of their content. I do remember myself thinking "phew, they seem cool", specifically because so many other Youtubers showed themselves to be bigots in the past
I was little mad, yeah. Watching Wonder Woman HITB nowWhat controversy, and why did they have to address it ?
the Plinkett TFA review, Wonder Woman and Black Panther. To name a few.
Yeah, this isn't the best look for them Watched it, and I get where they're coming from, but I don't really agree with the comments on Brie being "nasty" during that one interview and the looking down on paying for little girls to watch the movie.
That being said, I don't see RLM as alt-right or whatever. They ultimately agree with diversity being needed. They just have an awkward way of showing it. I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this, but I can understand why others wouldn't.
And I'm not ignoring that Rich Evans clip that's constantly posted. That was years ago and they haven't done it since.
No. You need to watch the TFA plinkett, if you want to understand what we're saying.
The Wrinkle In Time thing was my main criticism of Captain Marvel too. I remember thinking in the theater that I hoped the critics would bring it up.But they are right. Brie Larsson talked nonsense with "Wringle in the time is not meant for white middle aged male critics" and so they are not allowed to do their job or what? That's plain stupid and RLM pointed it out
But they are right. Brie Larsson talked nonsense with "Wringle in the time is not meant for white middle aged male critics" and so they are not allowed to do their job or what? That's plain stupid and RLM pointed it out
Except she's right. Sometimes as a white male critic themes and element from poc moviemakes go over my head. Because I didn't live it. We need more diverse voices in criticism so we can have more complete views on moviesBut they are right. Brie Larsson talked nonsense with "Wringle in the time is not meant for white middle aged male critics" and so they are not allowed to do their job or what? That's plain stupid and RLM pointed it out
Has RLM become the South Park of YouTube film criticism?The thing that annoy me the most is the centric position of rational voice they use in the reviews of movies like CM, Black Panther, WW and TLJ. They talk like they have the correct position and both sides are wrong while saying nothing at all about the movies or themes
Holly shit
(I'm starting to sound like a broken record at this point, lol) And that it was why it was so hard for me to bin them off. *sigh*I love the comedy of RLM... as it pertains to Best of the Worst and reView. If they get even tangentially close to any topic remotely revolving around social issues you can expect some of the most passive aggressive "I'm not a MRA but ugh those fucking shrill feminists", "I'm not a racist, but I have to let you know how annoyed I am anything positive is said about works starring people of color" rants on the internet.
Which sucks, because their actual comedy, when its not laser focused on whining about how "annoying" SJWs are, is fucking on point and their reviews and arguments for movies, even ones they like and I don't or vice versa, are really insightful.
That said, their disdain for Adam Sandler and his films almost makes up for their shitty "both sides" social talking points. Almost.
They are right but its such a non-issue this whole Brie-Larson speech shit. Like who cares if she wast posturing? Who cares if she was condescending to white male 40 year old reviewers. Who gives a shit? The problem is the people who care are the sort of fragile white alt-right, "anti-sjw" brigrade on the internet. So Red Letter Media adressing "this elephant in the room" isn't actually helpful. They may indeed be right, I think they are, but ultimtely this completely minor infracton by Brie Larson is being weaponised against tranformation and diversity in Hollywood.
That said their is a bit of puritism in this thread. I do not believe their are any offensive opinions expressed by RLM in this video. It is perfectly acceptable to disagree with the idea that middle aged 40 year old white males are less able to appreciate films made about people of other ethniticities and genders. Just relax guys, they even encourage people of other races and genders to become film critiques.
On the issues of brands and social justice I feel Trevor Noah is spot on.
One of (if not THE?) biggest movie sites changed their policies due to events surrounding Captain Marvel. This is a big event. WIth their style of "talking shit" youtube vid, it's understandable they'd at least touch on the subject.
They are right but its such a non-issue this whole Brie-Larson speech shit. Like who cares if she wast posturing? Who cares if she was condescending to white male 40 year old reviewers. Who gives a shit? The problem is the people who care are the sort of fragile white alt-right, "anti-sjw" brigrade on the internet. So Red Letter Media adressing "this elephant in the room" isn't actually helpful. They may indeed be right, I think they are, but ultimtely this completely minor infracton by Brie Larson is being weaponised against tranformation and diversity in Hollywood.
That said their is a bit of puritism in this thread. I do not believe their are any offensive opinions expressed by RLM in this video. It is perfectly acceptable to disagree with the idea that middle aged 40 year old white males are less able to appreciate films made about people of other ethniticities and genders. Just relax guys, they even encourage people of other races and genders to become film critiques.
On the issues of brands and social justice I feel Trevor Noah is spot on.
...um, the "controversy" surrounding the movie? Something to do with Brie Larson and junk. I put controversy in quotes because it's really only controversial to a few people.
The thing that annoy me the most is the centric position of rational voice they use in the reviews of movies like CM, Black Panther, WW and TLJ. They talk like they have the correct position and both sides are wrong while saying nothing at all about the movies or themes
White 40 year old men can appreciate films about different ethnicities & genders but there's still something to being a part of that demographic that gives you more insight & can help you appreciate/see things that a 40 year old nerd can't.
brie larson is right, diversity in any profession is a good thing. Her problem was the point of her message was good, but her delivery was shockingly terrible
How much you wanna bet to this just being a subtle variant of "she needs to smile more" without you realizing it?What is wrong with thinking Brie comes across with an attitude sometimes? Because honestly, I think she does personally and that has nothing to do with her position on social/political issues. I just think she kinda has a cold demeanor. Pretty much all my real life friends think the same thing. Just my opinion.
Yup exactly this.What is wrong with thinking Brie comes across with an attitude sometimes? Because honestly, I think she does personally and that has nothing to do with her position on social/political issues. I just think she kinda has a cold demeanor. Pretty much all my real life friends think the same thing. Just my opinion.
Jesus Christ, you guys are an fucking joke.Yup exactly this.
She has what i call "Jennifer Lawrence Syndrome".
Both really sympathetic during the early years of their careers but the more famous and popular they became the more attitude they got that comes off often as arrogant and bitchy.