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In Captain Marvel review, RedLetterMedia don't discuss the film for over 15 minutes as they talk about Brie Larson's comments on diversity
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How exactly does this "controversy" change any of that? Even if it continues, it doesn't have an impact on what she has done or will do. It's just fragile people being upset that one person doesn't care about their opinion.
That's literally it. She doesn't have to care what any of these people have to say, and that fact that they're mad about that only highlights her point: they feel like they deserve to be cared about. They're fragile babies.
It doesn't sound arrogant, because no one is owed consideration of opinion. She doesn't have to care about yours, and you don't have to care about hers. This isn't rocket science.
Are people actually arguing that they're alt-right though? All I see from them are shitty takes that seem to draw in those kinds of crowds even if they don't identify with it themselves.
RLM brings em out
He also loved dogs. Clearly Obama is Hitler confirmed. Gotcha liberals!
I mean it's a YA movie with a black lead, not to say white guy opinions shouldn't be heard but it's understandable that she finds more value in the opinions of those who are the target audience and are directly impacted by representation.
Look at this Ice Queen.
You know it's funny that these guys are frequently referenced(or at least used to be)for their film opinions like were suoposed to take then seriously as critics.
But when someone calls them out on a shitty take it's satire.
But when someone calls them out on a shitty take it's satire.
You could say the same thing about The Last Jedi. Rey is a white female, Finn is a black male, Rose is a Vietnamese female. Should Rian Johnson give a shit about your opinion of that movie since you're not any of those?
This is what has gotten RLM and others up in arms. Larsen said she wanted new faces at the table. That's it. She's using her clout to open doors for people that wouldn't have otherwise had the access.
No one should be opposed to that.
Uhh yes? How is it not? Unless you believe Disney isn't attempting to expand the appeal of SW by casting a female lead and POC in support roles?
SW is a franchise built on a foundation of white men (look at who made it and who stared in the OT). They grew up with it and rooted on a white male. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's apples/oranges in comparison to A Wrinkle. Luckily, representation has improved drastically with the ST.
Again, I'm not saying those opinions don't matter, but it's understandable that she, personally, finds more value in regard to young people who can relate to that representation, because they bring a different experience to how they relate to the film. That's the way I interpreted those comments.
Looking at the response of TLJ in some areas of the internet?
Absolutely.
The actress who played Rose was forced off of social media because of entitled, white nerds.
Of course it is but so is Captain Marvel LOL. It had majority male viewership opening weekend.
As a white guy I'm completely comfortable in saying white guys are the driving force behind the worst of SW conversation.
Bolded is truth
Yeah, but people nowadays seem to be reading reviews less and focusing more on aggregate film scores and scores from their favorite reviewers. So I don't think minority filmmakers are at a disadvantage when it comes to review and RT scores, and that reviewers can still be objective about their films despite lacking diversity, but of course diversity is always a good thing to bring in new perspectives and analysis of films.
Source?
That's veering off topic but aggregate scores are bad and should really not be used to begin with.
And there is no insight to be gained for most reviews if they're made by people who are from the same group.
A bro's take on Transformers will always be less interesting than a bro's take on Harry met Sally for example.
Diverse perspectives are not "always a good thing", it's the strict minimum if you want a somewhat interesting take.
An old white guy's take on Harry Potter, while more than likely to be uninteresting, is not by virtue of his race, gender, and age inherently uninteresting.
The ultimate irony of all this pseduo-anti-capitalist shit they run with is that that they literally produced three separate videos on GB 2016... because you know it was a relative cash cow for them.
Would it really change much? As it is I find their critic of the movie itself pretty fair and their arguments have nothing to do with the surrounding controversy.
To be fair, HP is one of the most incredibly white ass franchises in literature history.
That may be, but including the controversy in the same video is making a statement on the review itself.
Anyway, I've been turned off from RLM for a while now, this was also a comment on the backlash at large and the double talk from many people about "separating that art from the artist"
My point is that it's very likely that this person will miss what makes Harry Potter special.
Don't believe me? Just look at how the media talked about Harry Potter before the movie deals happened.
It's really really uninteresting.
Of course a good literary critic (which I don't believe there are that many) would be able to make abstraction to that fact to make for an interesting read at least.
True but it's target is squarely on kids which was my point.
While interesting that doesn't tell the whole picture, we kind of need the breakdown for other Marvel properties to see if it's not just Marvel movies having that effect on the split.
If Infinity War has a 70/30 breakdown, the CM breakdown of 52/48 is actually significant of Marvel courting women over men.
I totally agree with your point. I apologize for misunderstanding your stance; I thought you were making an essentialist argument.
I swear on everything these people have no consciousness or self reflection to say the idiotic shit they spew so easily
Like, the response and defense of Liam Neeson admitting he terrorized a minority neighborhood for a week got more defense, protection and shouting down anyone that was reasonable uncomfortable with his statement but a white woman saying critics should be more diverse leads to months long campaign of hate and is somehow "white men bashing"
Not at all.
Regarding reviews I still stand by the Updike's way of doing things
And he was really really white.
These guidelines make for better reads imo but they don't remove bias but it's a good start.
You can find really good content from the unlikeliest places but let's say that it is unlikely for a reason.
I'm surprised the people of Milwaukee haven't run them out of town yet.
"I call my guy friends bitches too, so it isn't sexist when I call her a bitch. In fact it's sexist NOT to. #staywoke #notsexist"
After more thought and consideration, I get why people are frustrated with RLM's characterization of Brie Larson and the general situation. Their criticism basically misses the forest for the trees.
I've also not been in a good mental state and feeling a bit nihilistic. A friend passed away on Tuesday so I've been feeling a bit of that "nothing matters" mindset in light of his death.
So, sorry for being obtuse.
I've also not been in a good mental state and feeling a bit nihilistic. A friend passed away on Tuesday so I've been feeling a bit of that "nothing matters" mindset in light of his death.
So, sorry for being obtuse.
I still watch a lot of RLM content, but have to agree that their blasé attitude towards major issues is disappointing and offputting.
One thing I've noticed is that old RLM actually had a decent amount of female presence that has been completely missing for years now. Of course, there was Jessi Nakles, who I have to assume ended her relationship with Mike and therefore parted ways with the crew. But, Half in the Bag and Best of the Worst both featured guest reviewers like Lora Story and Gillian Bellinger. And they were all pretty good contributors from what I remember. I don't think there's been a single woman on a RedLetterMedia video since Jessi left years ago.
I recall the second video being pretty NSFW, with a disturbing sexual assault scene from one of the VHS movies, just as a warning. I don't remember much about the first.
One thing I've noticed is that old RLM actually had a decent amount of female presence that has been completely missing for years now. Of course, there was Jessi Nakles, who I have to assume ended her relationship with Mike and therefore parted ways with the crew. But, Half in the Bag and Best of the Worst both featured guest reviewers like Lora Story and Gillian Bellinger. And they were all pretty good contributors from what I remember. I don't think there's been a single woman on a RedLetterMedia video since Jessi left years ago.
I recall the second video being pretty NSFW, with a disturbing sexual assault scene from one of the VHS movies, just as a warning. I don't remember much about the first.