Or Rey's. She cut off social media years earlier because of the abuse she got. It's heart breaking.
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In Captain Marvel review, RedLetterMedia don't discuss the film for over 15 minutes as they talk about Brie Larson's comments on diversity
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Or Rey's. She cut off social media years earlier because of the abuse she got. It's heart breaking.
Do you lot want to shut the fuck about Star Wars. That's not what this thread is about. Stop fucking derailing.
So people can sidestep the actual topic, and derail the thread.
Shit, let's make it relevant. Uhhh...
Seeing Rich Evans' misogynist views really casts the Plinkett reviews in a new light eh
Seeing Rich Evans' misogynist views really casts the Plinkett reviews in a new light eh
RLM is pretty linked with Star Wars from what I can tell, since many people seem to have become fans since their Plinkett prequel reviews, and that cynical take on Star Wars is what fans expect from them in a nutshell.
I don't think it's surprising that it came up, it's just that Star Wars in itself is a can of worms these days that derails discussion.
If you referring to the Plinkett sketch segments. No, it doesn't at all.
They're not related to their shitty, hurr durr SJWs. Bullshit, at all.
I'm well aware of their link to SW.
Unless you're bringing up their takes on TFA and TLJ. Then there's no relevance in mentioning the prequel trilogy in this thread.
People should either actually watch the video or read this post because holy shit people in this thread are acting like RLM just denounced feminism when that isn't at all what happened.
Exactly this.
I tend to roll my eyes whenever there's an RLM thread here. I don't agree with their stances on Ghostbusters 2016 or Star Wars, or Captain Marvel, but none of it is worth getting self righteously angry about. They're guys who can deconstruct films and provide solid analysis, they're not infallible experts who need to be taken down a peg or two and you don't gain anything by being borderline obsessed by their views.
It's a subject they are passionate about, nobody forced them to do this. They have influence and this is a subject with infects every part of Hollywood. It's not like they were just being apathetic for clicks, like Struckmann and Jahns.
I saw the video. They barely gave a review of the movie and spent the majority of the time shitting on an actress for daring to fight for equality and diversity in their own industry - which they're supposed to believe in but barely say a sentence or two about agreeing with her statements. Of course people aren't going to like that. This isn't their first time doing this, either.
I watched the video when it was first posted. This summary underplays the extremely suspect words and examples they use to try and dismiss Brie, not to mention their history of saying grotesquely racist or sexist shit.
I'm kind of confused why it would be unrelated for a person with deeply misogynist views to not have those views inform the creation process behind a deeply misogynist character.
This is a really funny post when Rich was on video saying that the Women's March was as bad as the Birther Movement
That's about as close as you come to "RLM denouncing feminism" as you can get without them actually saying they denounce lol
Do people who aren't at all shitty ever use the term "virtue signaling"? Has it not been so co-opted by the alt-right and anyone who wants to undermine progressives that it's completely poisoned so that anyone who still uses it must be kinda shitty?
Note: I am not familiar with the RLM guys at all but I skipped forward to the 11-minute mark and it seemed like they were really looking for things to complain about but maybe that's their shtick.
Note: I am not familiar with the RLM guys at all but I skipped forward to the 11-minute mark and it seemed like they were really looking for things to complain about but maybe that's their shtick.
It can be used in good faith, yes. It's an actual, legit thing. Not everyone uses it correctly, however.
They are cynical, but generally their reviews are more attuned to the movies they're watching - they usually aren't this bad but this does occur every once and a while. The quality has gone down in this particular vehicle, their RE:Views and Vest of the Worst are the better reviews going on right now. They started off being far more analytical in their Plinkett reviews - minus the sexist bullshit with the main character.
Yeah, I understand that it's a legit term. It's been around for a while, which is why I used the term "co-opted". It doesn't seem to exist online now apart from lazy attempts to discredit/undermine "SJWs" or just people they don't like. At least, that summarizes my recent interactions with it.
If you can edify me with examples of sincere usage, fair enough, but to me it's like the pepe meme. Yeah it used to be funny but now it's so infected with shittiness that maybe we could use something else.
I'd argue people who bring up the woke brands video every fucking opportunity they get are meta virtue signaling
I'm not saying people don't ACTUALLY "virtue signal". Of course they do. Call it insincere advocacy, call it whatever. I'm just talking about the people who use the term nowadays, though I concede in advance my online experience may be narrow.
It's primarily been used by the right lately, that's probably what's throwing you. On the left it's not bought up as much, despite being a correct term when made.
Happens here quite often, both in good and bad contexts. People just don't bring it up as it's uncouth or they're not going to listen, regardless - and the fact it has been tainted by the right these days. Which makes it harder to use in context in good faith. It's not supposed to be funny, it's an objective term for a type of messaging.
Yes. This is what I've been saying. :D
To be clear, I was talking about examples of the term being used, not examples of virtue signaling.
And I didn't say it's supposed to be funny. I was talking about the pepe meme as an analog.
This has been an unsuccessful conversation, but you seem like a good natured dinosaur and I thank you.
Whether or not they liked the prequels or not, they shat on the actor playing JarJar and young Anakin like they were women in a Hollywood blockbuster movie.
Christensen's acting in the prequels was never seen as "fine" or whatever, it was barely tolerated.
No one ever cared about the quality of acting in StarWars before PM came out when it became open season to shit on a child actor.
And again I would still take people shitting on Christensen for his performance than all the vitriol that were sent to JarJar's actor or Young Anakin's actor.
It was an order of magnitude more vicious.
I finally got around to watching the speech she made that "ignited" this controversy and I'm kind of speechless at the mental gymnastics people are trying to use to say that she was shitting on white men.
She clarified about six times that she doesn't hate white men (even though I 100% believe she shouldn't have to) and all she did was call for more diversity in film critique and noted the huge disparity between the diversity of gen pop and the diversity in the pool of top critics. Can someone who isn't sexist actually explain what the issue is without mentioning things that don't exist or are irrelevant? Also please stay away from mentioning her tone since it's incredibly transparent that "woman with opinion" = "harsh tone" to a lot of Brie Larson's critics.
She clarified about six times that she doesn't hate white men (even though I 100% believe she shouldn't have to) and all she did was call for more diversity in film critique and noted the huge disparity between the diversity of gen pop and the diversity in the pool of top critics. Can someone who isn't sexist actually explain what the issue is without mentioning things that don't exist or are irrelevant? Also please stay away from mentioning her tone since it's incredibly transparent that "woman with opinion" = "harsh tone" to a lot of Brie Larson's critics.
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She's a cold bolded ice queen who should check her mood swings at the door.
Hopefully this brings some clarity to the conversation
basiclly some people might incorrectly feel that the necessity for diversity in film criticism isn't needed
Shes the best actor in the MCU franchise, the only person who is on the same level is Cumberbatch.
Yeah and maybe someday they'll both be on the same level as Anthony Hopkins and Don Cheadle.
Two tertiary characters one of which just plays himself in films now the other rely's on screaming to act.
I saw plenty of people on the left call out Mike Pence for virtue signaling when he went to an NFL game specifically so he could indignantly leave after a player knelt for the Anthem, when he knew beforehand that players on those teams had been kneeling for the Anthem at every game and this was all a publicity stunt.
I heard she already put him in one of those concentration camps that SJWs & feminists are building to house all white man, dontchaknow