I'm not giving it a pass, nor am I attempting to down-play it. I'm just mentioning that one is worse than the other.
I think this is it
Texas megachurch parishioners are well known for their love of abortion jokes after all
lol. come on. If being ignorant or offensive is a trait of right-wing comedy then every comic must be a secret conservative.
Just going off the transcript, but that trans joke not only sounds lazy its own right but is also hard to square with the same guy who handled transphobia in such an exponentially more thoughtful way on Horace and Pete too.
Except that there's no reason to bring up Weinstein up in the first place unless you're trying to compare the two to make CK look better. Weinstein wasn't as bad as Cosby either, but I wouldn't go into a thread about him and make a post talking about how they're "nowhere near equivalent".
No, you don't have your facts straight, and even if he did ask permission you need to realize the power dynamic and even if that wasn't there how just asking a woman if you can masturbate in front of her puts her in an incredibly uncomfortable position, you just don't do that. These were not women he was romantically involved with or anything, they were cooworkers and aspiring people in their respective crafts in some cases, with one of the world's top standup acts putting them on the spot, so you're still incredibly wrong.Maybe I don't have my facts straight? From what I knew, he asked permission, and they said yes. I guess the events played out differently though.
Sarah Silverman also came to his defense. She allowed Louis to masturbate in front of her on more than one occasion. I probably could've phrased my thoughts better. I guess that wasn't the case with everyone.
Idk, man. I still feel able to separate the art from the artist in this case.
Except, y'know, in 2005, more folks were giving shitty, edgy, offensive comedy a pass. It ain't 2005 anymore, and honestly, thank god for that.Damn, he's still got it!
Honestly, this is milder than his old stuff. By far. He has this one set from 2005 where he just jumps from awful subject to awful subject and I think it's far more offensive than this.
EDIT: here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv8d_ry-u-Q&t=521s
Yeah, but just a specific type of it. I believe it's normally referred to as punching up/punching down.
Yep. I respect the hell out of him for that show and everyone else involved. Everyone should give it a watch but that ship has sailed for many.
Yeah as I was listening to it, jesus CHRIST at the bolded. Just when I thought he couldn't get worse than the previous things he mocks shooting victims. Fuck him.- Talks about how when he was a teen or in his early 20's he was doing crazy shit and he couldn't wait until he got into his 50's so he could call kids out for being crazy. But those kids aren't crazy, instead they're calling out others for saying stupid shit
- Complains about people wanting to be identified a certain way
- Complains about the Parkland Kids speaking in front of college. Says that they have nothing important to say and it's not like they got shot, they just pushed some fat kid in front of them
There are no actual jokes in it.
The difference is context. In the past it was like the whole thing was meta... he was satirizing the disgusting pov. But now we know he was actually getting off on it.
I did, there’s not much. That’s why I asked; it didn’t seem like territory I remember him saying much about.
Agreed. I did not listen to it but based on the posted transcript it sounds in a similar vein to his prior work.
The 'ol Dennis Miller. BAP BAP BAPpandering to the right is as easy as it gets as far as comedy goes. literally all you need to do is bash esh jay dub-yuhs and be met with raucous applause. sure, you'll never be as popular as you would be if you made jokes that were actually funny. but you'll get paid. you'll get by.