In case you needed a reminder that Louis CK is terrible... (Check threadmarks for staff post)

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KtotheRoc

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He knows he's never getting a number of his old audience back, and it shows. This was awkward as hell to listen to.
 
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Louis bit: The generation before us called us assholes because were were young and crazy, now the generation after us is calling us assholes because we're old and crazy

Maybe the common thread is that you're an asshole. Or is it too hard to admit that you're possibly doing or have done something wrong, even still?
 

Vas

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Damn, he's still got it!

Honestly, this is milder than his old stuff. By far. He has this one set from 2005 where he just jumps from awful subject to awful subject and I think it's far more offensive than this.

EDIT: here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv8d_ry-u-Q&t=521s
 

hurlex

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wow. that was really terrible. the end was pretty bad. making fun of school shooting survivors.
 

Brock Reiher

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I feel like over the past month this entire routine has been posted on Facebook in the form of impact font memes by the same 50-year-olds who are pissed David Hogg got into Harvard.
 

Blader

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A Louis CK and Dennis Miller dual bill could sell out the biggest megachurch in Texas
Texas megachurch parishioners are well known for their love of abortion jokes after all

All three of those aspects are pretty consistent parts of right wing comedy. Like someone said earlier, all he's missing here is the attack helicopter jab.
lol. come on. If being ignorant or offensive is a trait of right-wing comedy then every comic must be a secret conservative.
I don't even recognise it as the same person.

The subject matter is clearly different, but even the delivery and technique is totally different, and far lazier.
Just going off the transcript, but that trans joke not only sounds lazy its own right but is also hard to square with the same guy who handled transphobia in such an exponentially more thoughtful way on Horace and Pete too.
 

matrix-cat

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Yeah, he knows which end of the political spectrum is going to allow him to continue his career despite being a sexual predator, so he's pandering hard. That set was like the memes racist grandpas send to eachother on Facebook; almost literally doing the "I identify as an attack helicopter" shit. And all delivered to a crowd shouting "YEAH FUCK'EM!".
 

collige

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I'm not giving it a pass, nor am I attempting to down-play it. I'm just mentioning that one is worse than the other.
Except that there's no reason to bring up Weinstein up in the first place unless you're trying to compare the two to make CK look better. Weinstein wasn't as bad as Cosby either, but I wouldn't go into a thread about him and make a post talking about how they're "nowhere near equivalent".
 

RedMercury

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Maybe I don't have my facts straight? From what I knew, he asked permission, and they said yes. I guess the events played out differently though.

Sarah Silverman also came to his defense. She allowed Louis to masturbate in front of her on more than one occasion. I probably could've phrased my thoughts better. I guess that wasn't the case with everyone.
No, you don't have your facts straight, and even if he did ask permission you need to realize the power dynamic and even if that wasn't there how just asking a woman if you can masturbate in front of her puts her in an incredibly uncomfortable position, you just don't do that. These were not women he was romantically involved with or anything, they were cooworkers and aspiring people in their respective crafts in some cases, with one of the world's top standup acts putting them on the spot, so you're still incredibly wrong.
 

Rhennik

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Good lord. CK was legitimately my favorite comedian for half a decade, but even disregarding the context of his heinous personal actions, the glimpse of his new stand-up this clip offers is just mean-spirited without any sort of salient message that serves to undercut the cruelty of the content.

Go to hell, Louis. You've squandered every talent you have in service of making the world a worse place.
 

BriGuy

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It's like the same edge-lord shit he's been doing forever, but while that might have flown in 2009, it just seems kind of old hat and sad now.
 
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Why? We all know what they both did? Who are you trying to convince other than yourself?
Idk, man. I still feel able to separate the art from the artist in this case.

Even certain former idols of mine are hard to enjoy now like Woody Allen films or John K's Ren & Stimpy.

I thought Louie was different. I guess I was wrong?

Sorry.
 

Dr. Monkey

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Damn, he's still got it!

Honestly, this is milder than his old stuff. By far. He has this one set from 2005 where he just jumps from awful subject to awful subject and I think it's far more offensive than this.

EDIT: here it is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv8d_ry-u-Q&t=521s
Except, y'know, in 2005, more folks were giving shitty, edgy, offensive comedy a pass. It ain't 2005 anymore, and honestly, thank god for that.
 

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Imagine coming into this thread and aligning yourself with the guy in the crowd who yells "YEAH FUCK 'EM" about transgendered people.

Imagine being that ResetERA poster.
 

Brock Reiher

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lol. come on. If being ignorant or offensive is a trait of right-wing comedy
Yeah, but just a specific type of it. I believe it's normally referred to as punching up/punching down.

It's the difference between Louie CK joking about how, as a white man, he can get away with a lot of shit and will probably one day have hell to pay and Louie CK joking about... how school shooting victims are too preachy?
 

New Fang

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I’m open to comedians making jokes about almost any topic, but this just wasn’t well written material. Seemed lazy and sloppy.
 

BLEEN

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Just going off the transcript, but that trans joke not only sounds lazy its own right but is hard to square with the same guy who handled transphobia in an exponentially more thoughtful way on Horace and Pete.
Yep. I respect the hell out of him for that show and everyone else involved. Everyone should give it a watch but that ship has sailed for many.
 

Sunster

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pandering to the right is as easy as it gets as far as comedy goes. literally all you need to do is bash esh jay dub-yuhs and be met with raucous applause. sure, you'll never be as popular as you would be if you made jokes that were actually funny. but you'll get paid. you'll get by.
 

Brock Reiher

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Even if you want to be reaaaaaaaaaally generous and say this is the way his humor has always been...

Bill Cosby didn't do the spanish fly routine again after he was outed as a serial rapist for a reason! It's not a good look.
 

HylianSeven

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- Talks about how when he was a teen or in his early 20's he was doing crazy shit and he couldn't wait until he got into his 50's so he could call kids out for being crazy. But those kids aren't crazy, instead they're calling out others for saying stupid shit
- Complains about people wanting to be identified a certain way
- Complains about the Parkland Kids speaking in front of college. Says that they have nothing important to say and it's not like they got shot, they just pushed some fat kid in front of them

There are no actual jokes in it.
Yeah as I was listening to it, jesus CHRIST at the bolded. Just when I thought he couldn't get worse than the previous things he mocks shooting victims. Fuck him.
 

Musubi

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Yeah cool lets make fun of kids who saw their classmates get shot to death that's just classy as fuck. smh.
 

Ramala

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I didn’t find it funny but I understand the perspective. He’s basically doubling down on being ‘anti-woke’.
 

Vyer

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A lot of his catalog is low-hanging fruit and then it's all about his delivery. It's too 'I can see it coming a mile a way' for me.

I know he's done a shitton of outlandish bits, I'm sure Google can help ya out.
I did, there’s not much. That’s why I asked; it didn’t seem like territory I remember him saying much about.

You’re not wrong about his comedy in general of course, there’s been shitty jokes in other areas (race and gay slurs) in the past. That little bit I listened to sounded a little more of a dip into...I don’t know, something different than what I’ve heard in the past.. People aren’t wrong that it some really cookie cutter right wing stuff.

Usually even his offensive shit at least has a little more creativity than that.
 

Brock Reiher

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I can see people thinking it's not that bad if they've like... never been on Twitter before and don't realize that everything he said is basically word for word from alt-right twitter. It's not just offensive, it's clear dog-whistling.

And then he insulted the Parkland kids for good measure because ???
 
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Yeah that was just...bad.

Good comedy knows how to read the room. Talk about being out of touch.

and there are tons of kids out there still out there being idiots, festival/raving, doing drugs, fingerfucking.
Man how low of a comedian do you have to be to pick on survivors of school shootings

yikes
 

Fiye

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pandering to the right is as easy as it gets as far as comedy goes. literally all you need to do is bash esh jay dub-yuhs and be met with raucous applause. sure, you'll never be as popular as you would be if you made jokes that were actually funny. but you'll get paid. you'll get by.
The 'ol Dennis Miller. BAP BAP BAP
 

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There is no reasonable defense that can be offered of Louis CK's statements in this clip. Defending or commenting that you find the clip funny will be treated the same as any other post in defense of transphobia or transphobia from this point forward.
 
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The transphobic joke was pure trash. It's like something a dumbass uncle would say at Thanksgiving.

He sounds like a Rush Limbaugh caller now.
 

Darksol

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The set was pretty good, but it was a struggle listening to that leak with that one dude’s laugh.
 
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