Same here. Also just got the iPhone 11 Pro Max and an Watch Edition in ceramic.
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In light of Apple's support of the Chinese government's crimes, are you willing to boycott their gaming offerings?
- Thread starter Kaivan
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I've never owned an Apple device and won't ever own one. Their software won't ever make its way onto any of the hardware I use.
I'm pretty deeply entrenched in the Apple ecosystem, but I have been having doubts. The last Mac I bought (2018 Mini) is trash, Catalina is a trash update (major Bluetooth dropout issues that don't affect any other device I have), and I've been thinking of leaving the ecosystem for a while, as work has become a chore on my Apple devices.
But I was willing to put up with it to see if Apple improved in a year or two. But this shit of cowtowing to the nazi capitalist dictatorship in China has made me instantly cancel my Apple Arcade subscription, and I'm seriously considering ditching all my Apple devices ASAP.
But I was willing to put up with it to see if Apple improved in a year or two. But this shit of cowtowing to the nazi capitalist dictatorship in China has made me instantly cancel my Apple Arcade subscription, and I'm seriously considering ditching all my Apple devices ASAP.
Yep. A lot of people have an intense and irrational hatred of Apple (see many posts in this thread). I'm sure they're absolutely loving this.
Much like the Apple Foxcon "scandal" Apple are targeted not because they're any morally worse than anyone else but simply because they're a bigger target.
The best is the people feeling morally superior about not buying Apple products and instead buying... Chinese ones... wait...
Should I avoid the entirety of China when I'm decrying bowing down to government pressure for a shot at getting into their market?
I don't buy apple products as is so its pretty easy for me to not support them I guess. Google is no better though honestly so I'm not going to look down on those that do.
Yeah, sure. Their Apple Arcade is interesting, but I'm not planning to get an Apple product anytime soon anyway.
This is of course common knowledge, but Chinese business and the Chinese government are inseparable, so yes, if you actually care about this issue, supporting any Chinese brand is far worse than supporting Apple.
Erasing a country's presence willingly is not the same thing as buying a Chinese phone and is a much more harmful process though. There's no nuance if the level of argument is that people are too mean against Apple. Inseparability doesn't mean they are a monolith acting in tandem in every way, especially as Xiaomi seeks to have a broader international presence. Seeing even western companies bowing down sends a stronger message of how far they're willing to go on the government's demands.
And I didn't buy it new anyway so it's not like I gave money to China personally.
Thanks for letting us know you got a ceramic watch. Everyone was wondering if you got the poor person $400 version, but now we know you in fact got the $1,000+ wealthy person version.
Only because they've lost to all of the Chinese phone makers. Otherwise they'd be there.
It's hilarious that the thread turns out like a "Apple is for sheeps, im faaaaaar more intelligent to ever use an Apple device" lmao when every single company is doing the same thing, at least in the west Apple cares about privacy unlike Google.
With that said i wanted to say that it's disgusting that any company is a hitman for the Chinese government. The problem is capitalism getting in the way of human rights and democracy and like i said, it's fucking disgusting, human lives don't matter at all, look at Boeing with the Max 8, killing 300+ just for the bottom line.
With that said i wanted to say that it's disgusting that any company is a hitman for the Chinese government. The problem is capitalism getting in the way of human rights and democracy and like i said, it's fucking disgusting, human lives don't matter at all, look at Boeing with the Max 8, killing 300+ just for the bottom line.
Feels like this thread is just using the current situation in China and Hong Kong to shit on Apple tbh.
Pretty disgusting.
Pretty disgusting.
I'll never go back to Android and I love my iPhone so I don't see myself boycotting apple in that area. Was never interested in their games thing but I'm not going to lie and say "yeah of course I'm going to boycott that!" When I had no interest to begin with. But I guess not signing up for it counts for something.
I don't think there's an easy way to avoid the Chinese market but not buying a Chinese phone is probably the absolute lowest effort. Either way "I don't buy Apple because of China, I bought a Chinese phone instead" is eye rolling. It's fine if you don't like Apple but don't pretend it's because of China.
Sure, every critic is just hellbent on getting Apple's head on a plate.
I had an iphone before the events......but i don't play games on it, and have no intention of paying for their gamepass thing.
Never liked Apple so this is an easy boycott.
They are way worse than Blizzard in regards to bending over for China, but will only receive a tiny amount of criticism in comparison. Too many Apples stans.
It's hilarious seeing this thread in contrast to the Blizzard thread.
They are way worse than Blizzard in regards to bending over for China, but will only receive a tiny amount of criticism in comparison. Too many Apples stans.
It's hilarious seeing this thread in contrast to the Blizzard thread.
Not sure where you get your info from but they are the largest smartphone company in China and have their own cloud services that hosts people's data in China, therefore requiring those back doors.
It's also been suspected that these phones have backdoors as well.
I get people want to boycott apple and jump ship, but these companies y'all choose are far more sketchier than you think.
And it's your business to comment on his purchase because? He's provided a reason as to why he won't "boycott" Apple the same as others commented with "apples products are shit" to justify their actions.
People won't have the will to boycott Apple products as a whole so OP offered a solution since no one cares about Apple games.
Nah, both critics are justified. There is no fanboy group better than the other. And I hope it will get bigger coverage for all the other companies wrongdoings like Microsoft for instance.
I cannot show up one day to work and say "i refuse to use these macs cause i'm boycotting apple". Theres a practical limit on how much one can do. I dont use iPhones anyway, so at least that i can do.
Of course they censor stuff. They are a Chinese company selling in China....
Same as with the Blizzard thing, I can definitely say that no, I won't stop supporting the company. I love their products and it doesn't really matter to me. And I'm sorry to say this but I doubt any amount of boycott will have any effect. As with the Blizzard boycott, everyone I've talked to in really life didn't really care.
Honestly when you think about it, Blizzard reverted just for a bit of positive press their way. But the reality is that once Blizzcon starts all will be forgotten. Wait for Apple to post their next fiscal numbers, I doubt any of this will have a negative effect. The Internet always makes things seem bigger than they are because in the real world, when I ask around, most people are not aware or don't care about these things.
Also, 2 pages of shitting on Apple for no reason as other have mentioned, so kind of pointless imo.
Honestly when you think about it, Blizzard reverted just for a bit of positive press their way. But the reality is that once Blizzcon starts all will be forgotten. Wait for Apple to post their next fiscal numbers, I doubt any of this will have a negative effect. The Internet always makes things seem bigger than they are because in the real world, when I ask around, most people are not aware or don't care about these things.
Also, 2 pages of shitting on Apple for no reason as other have mentioned, so kind of pointless imo.
siri will get a default optout function from using the recorded audiofiles. protests like the recent ones are desperately needed. these kind of threads however are mostly fan wars.
It's pretty hilarious. They are boycotting Apple for being a shitty company but are okay on using Android phones. Lmao
Why give them money when you give them your data?
I get people want to boycott but this isn't like Blizzard where you can just decide to not use their products because hundreds of other products exist on the market made by different people. China has their hand in everything, and going down the route of choosing a Chinese company to stick it to the Chinese government because you didn't do enough research is literally worse than doing nothing and staying with Apple or Google etc.