There's a lot of testimony of cats "sensing" illness in folks, and there are some hospice wards that have cats roaming around providing companionship and comfort for elderly/terminally ill.
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In other news: A cat saves a baby from falling downstairs.
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There's a lot of testimony of cats "sensing" illness in folks, and there are some hospice wards that have cats roaming around providing companionship and comfort for elderly/terminally ill.
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Both cats and dogs have very sensitive noses, and humans give off very specific smells. We don't have the same capabilities.
It's the same reason people get into stupid console wars. It's just nonsense.
Cats, dogs and most animals are awesome.
OP is cunningly playing the long con with starting out acting like the repenting dog lover to lure people in and then slowly adding the threadmarks to drag cats' reputation further and further into the mud.
Almost like a plan one of those devious felines would come up with. Not at all how a loyal honest canine behaves, not at all.
Almost like a plan one of those devious felines would come up with. Not at all how a loyal honest canine behaves, not at all.
Protecting the baby from possible harm happens to look similar to playful behavior. It's the reason people are looking at the clip of cats jumping on and knocking down toddlers as an attack rather than playful behavior.
Regardless of the cats intent, it's a fact that it stopped the baby from possibly falling down the stairs.
Also, people say we shouldn't anthropomorphize cats by assigning altruistic motives to their behavior, but that's exactly what people are doing when calling cats assholes.
Cats are pretty limited in how they can interact with humans. There's compilation videos of dogs knocking the shit out of kids too, but we don't assume that knocking the shit out of kids is a dog pastime.
The cat 100% saved the baby because cats are amazing.
It then pretended to be playing with the baby afterwards because it doesn't want to be praised or treated like a hero and it knows that ignorant fools like OP will fall for it.
Truly a noble and selfless creature.
It then pretended to be playing with the baby afterwards because it doesn't want to be praised or treated like a hero and it knows that ignorant fools like OP will fall for it.
Truly a noble and selfless creature.
About your first point I think that's entirely possible. I said so in the very post you quoted.
About the second, there a lot of videos of dogs falling from and stairs and they seem fine. I do think they can get hurt obviously, but I don't think stairs are as dangerous to them as it is to us. Even for puppies.
I've been around cats for over 30 years. I know what their body language says and means. The first "attack" is not playing. Three reasons, one if the cat was playing it would have attacked when the baby turns it's back to the cat or it would have stalked the baby, it doesn't, it even turns and looks away for a few seconds. Cats big and small have a natural instinct to attack their "prey" when they turn their backs to them and it's almost instantaneous. Two the cat shows no sign of playfulness during the "first attack" it's clearly upset with the child and displays aggression to get the child to back off. Three, it stays put until the child turns around and goes into the other direction. It also shows a sense of urgency in its run, when a cat is playing they run just as fast but the position of its shoulders and the way it wastes little movement to get to the child shows a life or death urgency. As for the other "attacks" afterwards it shows behavior more in tune with playfulness that you're mistaking for in the first "attack". I do think you two are being unfair. If this was a dog you'd have no problem calling it a hero. Cats are mammals too and have paternal instincts just as much as a dog. That's all that's happening, instincts to protect the young.
The OP cat giving a warning, low meow may even point to the action being a maternal, "Don't leave my eyesight, baby human." That's as close to an audible, "Hey, stop!", that cats can give.
People tend to humanize pets to the point of rationalizing behavior to make the pet seem more intelligent or noble than it actually is. I love pets too, I've had both dogs and cats and I've been around many of both, and in my experience cats are extremely self serving and can be outright bastards, even to each other. That doesn't mean they can't be awesome and loving too, they can, but realize that when they are being lovable it's only because its on their terms and it serves their purpose at that time. Most dogs are much more selfless and protective than cats are.
Cats are cats, and people shouldn't try to make them into something they aren't.
Now in this case the cat was playing and happened to save that kid from falling down the stairs. That's awesome, but lets not kid ourselves into believing the cat was doing anything more than playing. The extended video clearly shows it is just playing and got lucky when stopping the kid from going down the stairs.
This thread is reminding me of that thread with the humpback whale grabbing that diver and putting it under its flipper to protect it from a great white that entered the area. Everyone arguing oh stop anthromorphising it. It wasn't being altruistic.
I wouldn't take the second pounce as proof that the one at the stairs wasn't out of genuine concern.
As someone who lived among cats since I was born, I will never understand the hate towards them. They're the kindest when you actually give a shit about them and not acting like a shitty owner.
This cat definitely wasn't playing, no matter what this Twitch guy say.
With the way some people act towards cats, it almost feels like one of their family member got mauled by one. Oh wait, cats don't do that, dogs do. :)
This cat definitely wasn't playing, no matter what this Twitch guy say.
With the way some people act towards cats, it almost feels like one of their family member got mauled by one. Oh wait, cats don't do that, dogs do. :)
Yup, so much kitty hate in here!
No, it's that weird part of Era that hates cats and REALLY has to let you know about it. Like OP.
And self aware. This video blows my mind how self aware this cat is?!
Simply because they aren't accessible as other pets such as Dogs. They do their own thing, on their own time.
Im not sure what you mean? You mean the video where the cat goes to pick the baby up by its neck, which they only do for their kittens?
30 years of experience with issues going from epileptic crisis to my mom's actual health state going by raising up my nephews always being assistedoor saved by my babies tells me more than your topic filled post
My family literally owns our lives to our cats
Cats and dogs are both awesome. Seems like the most obvious shit in the world, but some people insist on being morons who can't like one without insulting the other.
Where's the hate? Unlike dogs, cats don't slot into a pro-social structure by default and thus act in ways that tend to focus on their own personal desires without consideration of the way in which it will affect the others in their ad hoc social group.
They're assholes.
This doesn't mean they go out of their way to harm members of said social group or deliberately fail to protect members pf that group when they sense danger.
They're not evil.
This. Seemed much more like play behavior and not intentionally trying to save the baby, lol.
Well yeah they're far beyond. Take something like cancer which we still have very few ways to detect. They can smell it in us and know its fucking us up. Even if they've never been around a human. So many things that we struggle to comprehend is embedded in their genetic programming.
This woman passed two cancer screenings and it was only detected via a biospy. The dog knew the whole time and was bummed out.
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Eh, I don't think so. Cats and dogs don't pass the mirror test. I believe the idea is a researcher places a mark on the animal and the animal needs to recognize that it has a mark on it after seeing it in the mirror. A cat scratching its ears at the same time it looks in the mirror doesn't really count .
Nah. Watching it several times it's clear it knows it's touching it's own ears. Sees the ears stands up straight and touches its ears. Twice. Did you watch the video?
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I mean the cat was clearly playing with its ear in the mirror. Thats self awareness, which is what the mirror test is testing. Because they may not do something with an arbitrary ass dot is meaningless.
Right. I always wonder if human ignorance/arrogance is the biggest barrier between us truly understanding other mammals.
I guess I'm not so convinced since many times humans just like to project our own thoughts and emotions into what we think the actions of animals means. It may not necessarily be self-awareness, but who really knows. After reading through this wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test
It seems the mirror test isn't completely conclusive either. It's limited since it's biased towards sight as a sense and our human interpretation. Interesting that they tried a modified version for dogs with smell! Animal intelligence is always so fascinating.
Cats definitely aren't clingy/playful like dogs are but they aren't assholes. They frequently get distressed/worried when owners leave or about to leave and they love cuddles.
You can call them solitary or less extroverted but "asshole" Or "evil" is really off the mark for most cats.
Exactly. Clearly the other "evidence" posted in here is very different than what we saw in the first video.
People love to shit on cats unfortunately (not literally).
My take from seeing the video too. Almost no play-like behaviors from before rushing over (wiggles, head bobbing), cat put itself in between the kid and the stairs and didn't move away until the kid did, didn't fall over on its side and its tail looked agitated. Whether it was playing at the very end of the video seems moot, but it could be the cat trying to pull the kid away.
This forum truly is filled with so many of the most miserable, negative people I've ever seen in my life. I couldn't even pretend to be as miserable as some of you genuinely are even if you paid me, eesh... Cats are too good for you miserable people anyway.
Glad the baby is safe.
Glad the baby is safe.
This will always be my favorite (until someone ruins it, of course). The kid is clearly not OK, and the cat is like "Absolutely NOT!" Just full-speed ramming, which is not how cats usually approach this sort of situation to begin with.
These two posts say it all.
