The game never looked fun and most people I've talked to never had any kind of interest for it.
So yeah, keep working on Valve games guys.
So yeah, keep working on Valve games guys.
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In the Valley of Gods (Campo Santo's next game) is officially on-hold
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I appreciate this insight. It's just the inherent politics, bonuses you mentioned and such that leave me skeptical of the idea that it was just a simple "I want to do this because it's more interesting" choice being made that caused this project to be shelved. And it's a bummer because I feel like knowing Valve's history, the game being on hold feels like it's really just as good as cancelled.
Not that surprising once you realize that on most long term projects youll run out of passion and will be using your own work ethic to finish it from that point. And your work ethic will be mostly motivated by threat of finacial ruin (indie) or loss of job (AAA). This is why the open work enviornment is valves greatest weakness and strength. Can bounce out of bad projects but also run the risk of never finishing anything as that lull hits you
Parallel to that reasoning:
Valve wants Half-Life to raise the bar again -> Needs novel and groundbreaking design elements to live up to Half-Life's pedigree and raison d'rtre -> "uhh, what can we utilize to make Half-Life stand out again... oh, VR of course"
Half-Life Alyx is a VR game because VR needed a killer app AND because Half-Life needed something to enable it to stand out and push boundaries again. There are a lot of people, people who recognized Half-Life's place in shooter history, who saw this coming years ago.
the worst possible outcome, but alas, no surprise there
Wouldn't the worst possible outcome be if the game was officially cancelled? I mean, there's a sliver of hope here.
From those reports, it's not about what people want to work on, it's that people are encouraged to work on successful games so they get bonuses and praise from their peers.
I guess that's why Zach Barth decided to quit Valve too - he saw that there was no room at Valve for small indie projects.
and I'm still holding out hope for Starcraft Ghost. been down this road before, just easier to see it as dead.
If your dad were Valve he would have come back after actually spending 20 years looking for the perfect cigarette.
What lol? For real good for the campo santo guys, if this is what they would rather be doing for power to them. I'm allowed to voice displeasure though.
Underlords must have been a dream come true for someone that's into the Lords Management genre.
i subscribe to the 'side' that they weren't really feeling the game anyway
if Firewatch was totally my jam i'd be crushed but as somebody who thought it was merely good and Valley looked like a great follow up... not sure i could care less of two shits. but see where it goes... if this ends up as an analogue of Rare doing Kinect shovelware then sure i'll scream and throw beer bottles at the corporate overlords
if Firewatch was totally my jam i'd be crushed but as somebody who thought it was merely good and Valley looked like a great follow up... not sure i could care less of two shits. but see where it goes... if this ends up as an analogue of Rare doing Kinect shovelware then sure i'll scream and throw beer bottles at the corporate overlords
I mean, there's also the possibility that In the Valley of the Gods just wasn't working out.
It happens to tons of games. Lots of times you press on, cobbling and shoring together what you can to make it somehow work, but sometimes games just don't come together no matter how good of an idea they seem when you first start them.
It happens to tons of games. Lots of times you press on, cobbling and shoring together what you can to make it somehow work, but sometimes games just don't come together no matter how good of an idea they seem when you first start them.
they saw it years ago because the rumor has been around for years lol. listen to the interview they did with Keighley. it was crystal clear that they made this because they were looking for a tentpole VR game, not because they were looking for the next Half Life game. they said they tried a bunch of Valve franchises, and the only reason they didn't go with Portal is because the motion would make people sick. they brought Half Life into the picture because they thought it was a good fit for a tentpole VR game with the ability to get people to buy in. that's really all there is to it
Given what we know of Valve's approach to game dev, this seems likely
LOL at some of y'all thinking it's 2004 where working on a half life title is some sort of prestigious job in The Gaming Community
If anything the big delay and expectations makes it even more prestigious.
I don't think anyone who listened to Idle Thumbs could find it hard to imagine Sean dropping everything to work on DOTA.
yeah I think for a lot of people it's less that Valley of the Gods specifically has been cancelled and more the fact that a really talented group of developers have basically been dissolved. It's a real shame that we won't ever get a follow up to Firewatch. (Also podcasts if you were an idle thumbs listener, I wasn't but I know a lot of people who loved those shows)
it's not the community it's the industry lmao and working for Valve on Half Life is absolutely one of the most prestigious things you could have on a resumé. did you really think this was a good post?
Based on what?? The singular trailer we got that showed maybe a minute of gameplay??
more prestigious than working on valley of the gods for sure
LOL imagine posting this without reading the media over the last couple of weeks reporting about the official debut of HL: Alyx and that Index units, which cost up towards $1,000, are currently on backordered until the next year.
Threads like these are the best for fattening up that list. Though it seems like I too already had my bases covered.
Yup, always the same trolls. That clown was constantly in EGS threads concern trolling.
Or maybe they personally find Half Life to be an incredibly interesting and fulfilling thing to work on?
What a take.
It could also mean that Campo Santo wasn't very passion about VOTG either.
No, that can't be true! People changing their minds? No way!
Most likely since it would be an extremely childish and petty thing to do.
But buying off studios and then cancel their original games is not petty at all. Not like it means anything, but valve aint gonna see a penny from me.
I for one am very sad with this news. I loved Firewatch, was looking for In the Valley of Gods. And it makes me more sad bc I will never play HL: Alexys and I never cared for dota.
But oh well....what can i do right?
But oh well....what can i do right?