Firewatch is undoubtedly my favourite of 'those' type of games and probably top 10 of last 5 years, so this is a huge bummer.
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In the Valley of Gods (Campo Santo's next game) is officially on-hold
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I mean people here actively ignore Jane's tweets whenever they get posted, what did you expect?
Exactly this. Doesn't matter how many times Campo Santo devs state their positions and feelings.
May as well be talking to brick walls.
(Edit: yeah, is a repost I know,)
I do. This forum wants to attract developers, yet when you have a thread full of people calling developers liars and sell-outs—developers who post here no less—the only mod response is... to take part in the thread. Wild.
Gotta say, I stopped reading at this point, because there hasn't been anything hat related in bloody years. Not years. Like, at least do a little digging and edit your post to say "Courier". Though if you're going to dig at all, I don't see why you wouldn't just educate yourself about Valve generally.
Also, jesus, Half Life: Alyx isn't multiplayer.
Lord!
I legit feel embarrassed about posting in gaming threads here nowadays.
No one should be upset by hats. People in this thread are just generally rowdy about any negative sentiment towards Valve at this point I guess.
Hats, couriers. Tomato, potato. I went with hats because it was my first thought, and so I assumed also a reference most people here would get.
Just a good-natured poke at how Valve tends to be into their metagame stuff, and an implication that I'm not. Although I appreciate the couple of $ I get from selling Steam cards.
Valve tends to work in the multiplayer arena, especially in the last decade or so. I pointed out Alyx as an exception to this, and as a game that I would be interested in. But VR is expensive as the whole of hell and also doesn't seem completely "settled" yet, as it were.
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There are tweets from several Campo Santo devs that make clear this was their own decision, but don't let that get in your way or anything.
Just FYI, Olly Moss didn't join Valve at the same time as Campo Santo team, and he explicitly mentioned that he wasn't going to work on ItVoG when he was hired (well, unless they needed help). So yeah, he was probably working on Alyx from the very day he was in Valve.
Had little interest in the original pitch, now it looks even less interesting.
Working on HL VR sounds like more fun, although working on mobile game UI sounds like the last thing you want to do in Valve.
The only reason people are "rowdy" in this thread is users like yourself saying the same tired ol' Valve meme takes that has been mentioned for years when we have an article, statements, and even the devs on social media and this very thread stating that Valve weren't the ones that shut down "In the Valley of the Gods". Do people have a right to be disappointed that the game is on indefinite hold? Of course. I, too, was looking forward to the game. However, shitting on the devs and Valve when there's proof that it isn't the case is just uncalled for.
As someone who doesn't care about Half Life (I know, right?), but loved Firewatch... this is bad news.
This whole thread has been a complete embarrassment.
There are like, four people that attacked CS so far, and ja2ke even thumbsupped a Valve shitpost in this very thread. What are you even talking about?
But since we're pulling receipts from eighteen months ago:
file that under never coming out. I am so sad about this, Firewatch is one of my favorite games.
I don't think the thread would be so overwhelmingly negative if a game being put "on hold" wasn't an often used pr line for full on cancelled, or if being aquired by a larger entity didn't almost always result in game studios losing their identity and/or breaking up entirely. Like, we should absolutely believe and support the devs if they say all is well, but this is a distressing amount of smoke for there to be no fire.
no ill-will towards the people involved but it really is disappointing to have an interesting looking game pushed aside for one that... isn't particularly
The fact that you a) went back to find a post of mine from ages ago to shame me, and b) found one that isn't actually what happened here is kind of blowing my mind. I guess you got me.
From the original article:
So Valve didnt buy them to "drop down their game" but rather they chose to because they found other stuff more interesting / rewarding. Which is the main point of contention he has, that people are just saying that Valve is forcing them to do work against their will.
But keep your "win points", because you just dont seem to understand what Randomly Generated is complaining about.
OH I'm sorry, I must have missed where episode 3 was a part of that. Could you link me the ep 3 trailer?
And the number that is higher than 2 but smaller than 4.
Just speculation on my part based on Valve's comments and the established rules of the Half-Life universe, but I wouldn't be 100% sure on the story part.
I'm not sure how widely shared this was, but I really liked this piece by Fyfe:
quarterly.camposanto.com
Tales from the Borderlands: The Oral History
It may be Telltale’s best game. Here for the first time is the story behind Tales from the Borderlands. Ups, downs, sock fetishes. All…
quarterly.camposanto.com
It is not. But I am active in amateur writing circles and saw many deaths of awesome sounding summaries when it came to bringing it alive in novel/story format.
Half Life Alyx wasnt announced back then. Now that it is a thing, its justified that the developers choose to work on it. Half Life Alyx > anything else
also Valve didnt canned it. The dev shelved it themselves. Please dont embarrass yourselves
Yes I know. Users like myself are not doing any of that. Or what gave you the impression I did?
The problem is that "Valve hats" is a tired meme at this point that's often used to dismiss the effort that Valve staff put into Steam, dev tools and games. It's hugely disrespectful to the people who work there to boil down the perception of a company to "hats and meta", regardless of if it's meant to be "good-natured". Maybe you weren't aware of the meme, in which case, fair enough, but that's why I stopped reading.
