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chandoog

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Was there actually an airstrike?

Nobody seems to have any proof anything happened...?

So much hysteria and so little proof of anything yet.

The airstrike definitely happened, but what it's target ended up being is the question. Indian authorities claim they destroyed some buildings and killed 300 people, even though there are no reports of this mass level of death as of yet from any nearby village, eye witnesses etc. You'd imagine hospitals would be flooded.
 

Equanimity

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This hashtag is gaining traction on Twitter:

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Ushay

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To be fair, it took them two years to make a Bollywood movie and release it, that too at the time of elections being near :P

Also, there is apparently an 'Air Strike' discount being offered in India with the promo code "FPAKAGAIN" which shows the mental state of India right now, I guess.

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That is sickening man. They are actually lusting for war.

Was there actually an airstrike?

Nobody seems to have any proof anything happened...?

So much hysteria and so little proof of anything yet.

It's amounted to very little. There is no evidence at all, meanwhile there are actual people on the ground where the bombs landed. If they did indeed hit over 400 people, why aren't there any crisis alerts at hospitals?
 

Zapages

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Well looks like things might be getting worse.... There are reports of shelling occurring on the LOC between Pakistan and India. Also tanks are being rolled into Sailkot (major city) in Pakistan next to India border...

Search for Sialkot on Twitter... I am taking things with a grain of salt.

This is sad for both countries if a war occurs... :\
 

SlothmanAllen

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How come the US hasn't verified the authenticity of these claims? I'm guessing they don't want to come out as flavouring one side over the other. Surely, someone outside of these countries could verify the status of the Indian air-strike.
 
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Well, Even if people don't want to believe India's accusation of Pakistan harboring terrorist, surely they can believe an independent third party?

Pakistan must take urgent and meaningful action against terrorist groups in its territory, including Jaish-e-Mohammed which has claimed responsibility for the 14 February bombing, and Lashkar-e-Taiba.
Pakistan must do everything possible to implement its own proscription of Jaish-e-Mohammed. It can no longer allow extremist groups the legal and physical space to operate from its territory.

Minister for Foreign Affairs - Australia

France recognizes India's legitimacy in ensuring its security against cross-border terrorism and calls on Pakistan to put an end to the activities of the terrorist groups established in its territory.
France, which stands alongside India in the fight against terrorism in all its forms, is fully committed to mobilizing the international community to punish the terrorists responsible for this attack and to block their channels of financing.

France
 

thuway

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My mom is Indian, dad is Pakistani. And to be honest - India looks like a real villain here and trying to make a political stunt so their prime Minister can get re elected. Not a good look
 

Mington

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My mom is Indian, dad is Pakistani. And to be honest - India looks like a real villain here and trying to make a political stunt so their prime Minister can get re elected. Not a good look

40 Indians were killed by a Pakistani funded organisation.

This is whole on Pakistan and how they openly sponsee terrorists
 

ImTheresaMay

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I highly doubt there will be war between the two nations.

This is largely India trying to drum up nationalism ahead of the elections.
 

GameAddict411

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If Pakistan is truly and intentionally harboring Terrorist organisations, then they have a lot to answer for. But a war over this will leave both countries fucked and probably the neighbors too.
 

malik180

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Jaiesh E Mohamed are used by Pakistan as a proxy against India.

State sponsored terror the country has been doing it for years.
Yup thats what India has been doing for years in Kashmir without any shame since they are using their own national army to do it. Mumbai attack is rightly termed as terrorist attack because innocent civilians died in that. But I wouldn't term retaliation from the locals fighting for freedom against Indian troops as terrorism. in the eyes of kashmiri people Its war for freedom.

The fact that the Indian army general believes the bomb materials were gathered locally

"It is not possible to bring such massive amounts of explosives by infiltrating the border," says an Indian military commander, Lt Gen D.S. Hooda

"The nature of Thursday's bombing suggests the insurgency is adapting and becoming more homegrown, leaving observers to question how deep the links to Pakistan really run," the newspaper observed.

It pointed out that Dar was from a village about six miles from where the Indian convoy was struck ... and the explosives he packed into his car appear to have been locally procured.

The report noted that "an insurgency that was once stoked by Pakistan may have taken on a life of its own, as Kashmiris become more disenfranchised and angry at the central government in Delhi and its use of force".

Some of Dar's friends told NYT that he turned to militancy after he was wounded at a protest in 2016, where his leg was struck by a bullet fired by the Central Reserve Police Force, a paramilitary unit. "Many Kashmiris loathe the paramilitary unit, viewing it as an occupying force recruited from across India to suppress them," the report added.

It also noted that the attack had "prompted new questions about how tenable (Prime Minister Narendra) Modi's hard-line strategy" in Kashmir was.

India has about 250,000 armed forces in Kashmir, making it one of the most militarised corners of the world
 
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Yup thats what India has been doing for years in Kashmir without any shame since they are using their own national army to do it. Mumbai attack is rightly termed as terrorist attack because innocent civilians died in that. But I wouldn't term retaliation from the locals fighting for freedom against Indian troops as terrorism. in the eyes of kashmiri people Its war for freedom

And in the eyes of normal Indians (and the rest of the world), that's terrorism 101. If India want's it can use extreme prejudice to kill any terrorist sympathizer it wants. But it's largely holding back, unlike China. Don't forget Kashmir is highly militarized zone with state of the art weapon systems.

To be fair, the Pulwama incident was an intelligence failure and attack like that are incredibly rare. For the majority of time, Kashmir valley is largely peaceful. Most of the top home grown terrorists are eliminated anyway.

It's unfortunate that this event has increased the hatred between ordinary Indians and Pakistanis.
 

malik180

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And in the eyes of normal Indians (and the rest of the world), that's terrorism 101. If India want's it can use extreme prejudice to kill any terrorist sympathizer it wants. But it's largely holding back, unlike China. Don't forget Kashmir is highly militarized zone with state of the art weapon systems.

To be fair, the Pulwama incident was an intelligence failure and attack like that are incredibly rare. For the majority of time, Kashmir valley is largely peaceful. Most of the top home grown terrorists are eliminated anyway.

It's unfortunate that this event has increased the hatred between ordinary Indians and Pakistanis.
Kashmiris don't want to live as part of India. Allow referendum to take place then. I can bet 90% would vote for independence. If its so safe then why are 250,000 troops deployed in the region?
 

_Karooo

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Kashmiris don't want to live as part of India. Allow referendum to take place then. I can bet 90% would vote for independence. If its so safe then why are 250,000 troops deployed in the region?
Because of constant Pakistani brainwashing and radicalization. They sure loved Indian army's help to save them from floods. Kashmir belongs to India with or without Kashmiris. Troops are deployed in the region to stop Pakistan and daddy China from stealing the land like they did with POK. India should repeal article 370 and do a demographic replacement. You should worry about your ally China putting muslims in concentration camps rather than poking your nose in Kashmir.
 

ImTheresaMay

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Because of constant Pakistani brainwashing and radicalization. They sure loved Indian army's help to save them from floods. Kashmir belongs to India with or without Kashmiris. Troops are deployed in the region to stop Pakistan and daddy China from stealing the land like they did with POK. India should repeal article 370 and do a demographic replacement. You should worry about your ally China putting muslims in concentration camps rather than poking your nose in Kashmir.

^This is going to be an underappreciated post since this guy is literally arguing for fascism and genocide in Kashmir but since it's outside of American context no one will call it out for what it is.
 

chandoog

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Kashmiris don't want to live as part of India. Allow referendum to take place then. I can bet 90% would vote for independence. If its so safe then why are 250,000 troops deployed in the region?

India has been opposed to a referendum since the 50's despite the UN urging them, pretty sure they're not gonna agree to one any time soon. Considering the majority demographic, it's more likely they (the Kashmiri residents) will choose Pakistan over India.

Because of constant Pakistani brainwashing and radicalization. They sure loved Indian army's help to save them from floods. Kashmir belongs to India with or without Kashmiris. Troops are deployed in the region to stop Pakistan and daddy China from stealing the land like they did with POK. India should repeal article 370 and do a demographic replacement. You should worry about your ally China putting muslims in concentration camps rather than poking your nose in Kashmir.

Tell us how you really feel though.
 
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Badcoo

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Remember when Trump started touting the caravan during the elections to get people riled up. This is exactly what Modi is doing and it's working. It's ridiculous how much these countries hate each other. If you ask one or the other why they say "b/c we just do."
 

Ushay

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40 Indians were killed by a Pakistani funded organisation.

This is whole on Pakistan and how they openly sponsee terrorists

Do you have any idea what actually happens to the Kashmiri natives in the Indian occupied zone? I will never condone what happened to those Indian Security personnel. But the Mass graves, mass rape, mutilation and much, much more.. Look it up. Give your sympathy to the truly oppressed.
Indian plane crashed killing the pilot, Indian media calling it a 'technical glitch'.

https://twitter.com/CNNnews18/status/1100625587171774464?s=19

'Technical Glitch' .. riiiiight.
 

_Karooo

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^This is going to be an underappreciated post since this guy is literally arguing for fascism and genocide in Kashmir but since it's outside of American context no one will call it out for what it is.
What? Learn what article 370 is. Indians can't buy property in Kashmir. Fascism and genocide happened to Kashmiri pandits.
 

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Apparently 3 pakistani F16s entered Indian occupied Kashmir. Indian airforce responded . Pakistani fighters shoot down Indian MIG29. Twitter is lit with this
 

OozeMan

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India should repeal article 370 and do a demographic replacement. You should worry about your ally China putting muslims in concentration camps rather than poking your nose in Kashmir.
You know what? Modi might actually move forward with this in his second term.He has already stoked the fires of Hindu nationalism to unprecedented levels. And sadly, he will actually get away with it on the world stage considering India's an emerging superpower and what not...............
 

Ruthless

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Because of constant Pakistani brainwashing and radicalization. They sure loved Indian army's help to save them from floods. Kashmir belongs to India with or without Kashmiris. Troops are deployed in the region to stop Pakistan and daddy China from stealing the land like they did with POK. India should repeal article 370 and do a demographic replacement. You should worry about your ally China putting muslims in concentration camps rather than poking your nose in Kashmir.

Poor choice of words. Both countries want Kashmir, and neither will give it up.

No one cares what the people who actually live there want.
 

Sabretooth

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Good lord, you guys don't know the half of it. Hell, I don't know the half of it, given how much I'm avoiding the Indian television media.

At this point, Pakistan and 'terrorism' have practically become synonyms. The fight against terror in India is essentially a fight against Pakistan. There is a narrative being spun that India has been hobbled by liberals and "anti-nationals", and that Modi is the true Hindu champion who will end both them and Pakistan.

The BJP and the RSS' long-standing propaganda has pretty much seeped into the Indian mainstream thanks to a rapid rise of social media. The notion is that for thousands of years, "India" has suffered at the hands of foreign powers, particularly Muslims. The continued terrorist attacks in India are seen as a continuation of that victimhood, of a foreign Muslim power killing Indians.

There is a very strong narrative being spun that Modi's election has heralded a "New India" that is badass and prepared to take no shit from anyone. This falls well in line with the RSS' vision for a "Hindu awakening" with which to avenge India's history. Indians are thirsty for clout and power. They don't just have imperialistic sentiments at this point, but don't even see anything wrong with imperialism. There's a desperate desire to become a superpower at all costs, and if that means trampling on others, then that's fine because "China, US, Russia, UK did that too".

Images, complete with dramatic background songs, of fallen Indian security personnel have been playing on TV. There's a lot of supposed sympathy for the soldiers, which is really a mask for India's pride and ego being hurt. That's really all it boils down to, the question of "How could they do this to us and get away with it?"

Indian movies for the past half-decade or so have become intensely nationalistic, depicting an India that is prepared to restore its fallen pride by taking out terrorists (that is to say, Pakistan).

News channels are baying for blood. I've seen people compare them to Fox News, but I honestly find that comparison laughable given how utterly tame Fox News is. Saying that Indian news channels are Fox News on "steroids" is like saying a crocodile is basically a big gecko. News reporters (not even analysts) are laughing and celebrating with the locals, repeating slogans from a recent war film, casually commenting on how Pakistan should be broken up into four.

The scariest part is the India is not an authoritarian state with state-controlled media. It's a democracy with free speech, and despite that, this propaganda is running wild and free thanks to greedy news channels out for television ratings. The government is giving them a pass, no doubt, but the thirst for war and 'revenge' is definitely coming out of the people itself.
 

Sabretooth

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Apparently 3 pakistani F16s entered Indian occupied Kashmir. Indian airforce responded . Pakistani fighters shoot down Indian MIG29. Twitter is lit with this
Indian press confirms F16s entering Indian airspace. A MiG did crash 200 kilometres away, but at the moment the cause is stated to be "unknown". That will probably remain the case, because if India confirms it was shot down, that could escalate the situation.
 

malik180

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Now indian media saying technical fault. Well according to Pakistani channels 2 Indian fighter planes were successfully brought down after they violated Pakistan's airspace. 2 pilots dead. 1 captured. 1 on the flee apparently. They are showing a dead body as well.
 
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