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Indigenous Women Coerced into Sterilizations Across Canada
- Thread starter Caz
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I'd also recommend the podcast Thunder Bay, which while not about this specifically, does a good job giving a sense of the issue of racism in Canada.
The article in the OP mentions various actions being taken which could no doubt use support.
This one by Amnesty International may be helpful in bringing justice and stopping those that are guilty of coercion and performing these sterilizations.
The study the Senator wants to start would be helpful in uncovering how widespread and who else may be involved. This will take time and a consistent government focus.
I expect that Health Canada will issue a guidance along these lines in the next few weeks, now that this issue is picking up some attention. The change to the Criminal Code is also something that the Liberals would probably be open to doing, and they'd put it on the docket, but it'd probably take some public pressure to get it prioritized and passed in a timely manner (probably still months at best but before the next election should still be possible). That said the Criminal Code changes probably wouldn't happen until after an investigative committee and a report and that sort of rigmarole.
There are currently Senate vacancies for Yukon, the Northwest Territories, Ontario and Nova Scotia. If you know of anyone who would be a good Senator on this issue from one of those places consider nominating them for a Senate appointment. I think this article is a good example of the good things good Senators can do.
Latin Americans don't treat their indigenous populations well at all. Many Latin Americans are taught to be ashamed of indigenous people or their indigenous heritage (which many of them do). They are still perpetually marginalized and discriminated against. The only reason you don't hear about it is because Latin Americans like to pretend they don't exist, so their problems/representation are hardly ever heard.
This may differ slightly in few countries like Peru, Bolivia and Guatemala, where they make up a larger portion of the population/national/cultural identity, but the same cannot be said elsewhere.
Yeah the senator taking it up and the lawsuit are heartening. Hope this is able to change things.
Amazing. I was reading this thread and recalled some dude with an inferiority complex toward Canada frequenting such threads might might show up and..... well, hello! I can only hope our apparent superiority complex dovetails with your inferiority complex and we all experience complete harmony.
I started a new job a few months ago where I work directly and indirectly with First Nations in BC. Virtually every new provincial policy now has indigenous people at the forefront (particularly w/r/t rural communities, working with the FNHA, etc) and every government employee gets hours of training related to indigenous people. That said, despite high-level and ground-level efforts, the cycle of poverty and abuse in rural communities is still so prevalent and will take generations to break. Inclusion is what is most important, but the communities where most indigenous people live are highly segregated along class lines, not to mention ethnic.
Institutional discrimination can be removed and government can be rehabilitated, but the roots in the communities are hard to repair. BC isn't specified in this article, but it still suffers from the exact same legacy as other provinces.
I'm curious if/how the Senator has approached the federal government with this (ie, incidences of forced sterilization). There needs to be a full investigation and I'm not sure how the government could justify any other response. Truth & Reconciliation is made so hollow without consistent action on every front.
who does Canada think they are America, Australia, England? (i'm only certain about the american doings of that)
Despicable. I see a lot of Canadian users here (well, I assume that's what they are), complaining that people bring up the Indigineous stuff to "smear" Canada, but honestly, reading this story, Canada deserves people flinging shit on them for this. How can an otherwise liberal society ignore this Nazi bullshit?
You must be thinking of someone else. I love Canada and think it's superior to the US in almost every way that actually matters to the average citizen. What I don't love is the few small minded posters on here that have zero ability or interest in having rational conversations about Canada or Canadian US relations.
I'm glad I saw this thread, and glad that it's a few pages long because normally threads on Native Americans' plights hardly get any attention. Fucking horrible.
Without being given any concrete examples, I'd have to imagine the issue here is lack of completely informed consent rather than "forced" sterilizations. This topic is probably substantially more nuanced than the reactions here make it out to be. But again, we don't have any concrete examples.
Hate is irrelevant when there is something to gain from their lands.
From what I recall from previous topic on the previous site, it had to do with people consistently got pregnant while unable to raise them, depositing them into the social services. Doctors ''highly suggested" that if they didn't want to repeat the problem of having unwanted children, they proceed with sterilization.
This coercion is wrong. If they didn't understand the procedure or ramifications fully, then it shouldn't have happened.
There's not really enough information, which is why I think it's important to proceed with the study. Make sure that if it is still happening that it must immediately stop.
This is sickening to hear. It's one sign of many in my view of how far our civilizations are from being anywhere close to just, with how we've continued to mistreat and/or neglect our native populations. If any of you out west have ever been to a Najavo reservation for example, you can probably attest to how much of a wake up call it is.
The bigger question is why is this only 4 pages? Why is this not one of those massive race related threads. Are these people not good enough to fall on people's radar here? They were here before all of us. It's like a damn silent agreement to sweep them under the rug.
What does this photoshop have to do with the issue?
Cuzzin Saganash spreading the truth
Do you think this subject is something to use as a platform for your ridicule?
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Absolutely disgusting.
The sad truth is that almost no one gives a shit about indigenous people in Canada.
This popped up on the news feed on my phone today.
Photography student sends message about MMIWG using Canadian flag
Photography student sends message about MMIWG using Canadian flag
That's unfortunately the truth. Often the only support many publicly display for indigenous people is really only for themselves and their interests. They use indigenous people and their issues to attack their political opponents. The truth of who is helping indigenous people often getting buried in the lies and appeals to emotion.Often bringing up tangential issues to distract from the one at hand.
However, there are some who are out there making genuine efforts to help and they shouldn't be forgotten. Their number is slowly growing with awareness and some government efforts and is helping give indigenous people a stronger voice.
I'm not convinced if more people knew it was happening, that they'd care. Same with the forced sterilizations in the United States, I think a lot of people think it's okay because there's a theater of consent. Or they're just straight up eugenicists. I hope Canadians will fight for policies that leave absolutely no room for coercion. And all those doctors and professionals who did this shit are never allowed to practice again.
In Mexico this also happens, specially in rural areas. Honestly, all of the America continent should be ashamed of the treatment of indigenous people.
And from the people of Canada, Canadian mining companies (with the full collaboration of the Mexican government) are deplorable for their treatment of indigenous people in Mexico and the rest of America:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/canad...s-and-campesino-communities-in-mexico/5613567
Mexico for the first time in their democratic history elected a president slightly to the left and promised changes it that issue. We will see.
And from the people of Canada, Canadian mining companies (with the full collaboration of the Mexican government) are deplorable for their treatment of indigenous people in Mexico and the rest of America:
https://www.globalresearch.ca/canad...s-and-campesino-communities-in-mexico/5613567
Mexico for the first time in their democratic history elected a president slightly to the left and promised changes it that issue. We will see.
That's fucking horrible and disgusting. I don't even know what else to say. Just awful. Human beings can be so damn terrible to one another.
I dunno honestly. I'm not saying there's somebody better who could take his place, I'm saying it would just be nice if we had somebody better.
True, but if you want to really look deeper into the treatment of indigenous people on a more general level, every single country now and in history who has or has had indigenous people has treated them badly. Some of course way worse than others but altogether this is a huge global issue that I unfortunately do not see fixed soon if not ever. Progress has been made, of course, but not a single country is on a level where you could honestly say indigenous people have the same possibilities as the majority.
The solution is to run the pipes through white neighborhoods and land plots.
North Americans of European descent have no chill. Y'all won, chill the fuck out.
And with the whole missing women thing, the implication is non-natives are going rape and kidnap happy right? Disgusting, same people on their moral high horse about how good their governments are.
And with the whole missing women thing, the implication is non-natives are going rape and kidnap happy right? Disgusting, same people on their moral high horse about how good their governments are.
It''s disgusting that you think it is appropriate to use this tragedy as a platform to voice this petty personal issue.
Lead Now is trying to begin a petition to pressure Justin into taking action.
Please sign if you are Canadian:
https://act.leadnow.ca/coerced-ster...5S1mHlk1CZ6FQkFhH1pj8f_3qV0cADXc0S0qkc26v7tu8
Please sign if you are Canadian:
https://act.leadnow.ca/coerced-ster...5S1mHlk1CZ6FQkFhH1pj8f_3qV0cADXc0S0qkc26v7tu8
It's good to see Sinclair is adding his voice. He`s another Senate nominee by Trudeau.
Hopefully, the federal government acts on this soon.
Platform for what? US and Canada are constantly chastising countries overseas as being backwards. Violence against non-white ethnic groups gets swept under the rug 24/7. How y'all treat the lowest of the low is the real you, miss me with the performative wokeness.
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Holy fuck it's still happening?
This makes me fucking sick Canada just went on the pile of shit countries.
This makes me fucking sick Canada just went on the pile of shit countries.
It`s basic human rights and body autonomy against medical justifications. Sinclair's statement seems to imply that he trusted(at the time) the reports he'd seen from social workers overseeing some of these sterilizations that crossed his desk. It may mean those cases met the thresholds of law at the time. However, he did think there should be an evaluation then. That he is pushing for the investigation now is significant. If their is any indication of abuse of the system due to suspicious activity an investigation should be started quickly.
It really shouldn't happen at all, there has got to be a better way, but before that, if there is suspicion of a covert criminal race related forced sterilization program being run within provincial jurisdictions it needs to be investigated and stopped.