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Inside Xbox Next-Gen Games Showcase, May 7th
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They probably had all the graphics, gameplay (Halo is very consistent in this department), and most of the world down, they just revamped the story.
This what Julien Chièze said for quite some time now according to his sources.
Thanks for all the info bro, keep em' coming when you can :)
Rocky development for me is actually good news, every good Halo game for many had rocky development, Halo CE repetitive arenas, multiplayer was rushed, Halo 2 was rebooted several times with the infamous E3 demo not being in the final game. Halo 3 story being Halo 2 part 2 and the list goes on and on. 343i is very talented, I trust them, however I would prefer a Spring 2021 launch due the world situation atm.
It's not meant as a complaint and you're right. More like an observation as many people seem to have pretty gigantic expectations about Valhalla and crossgen period in general.
It definitely won't be a game that will break 90+ IMO, or put Halo on the stage it used to be. Expectations are very low for me.
As another user already put it "They can't even re-release the old games without fucking them up, let alone making sequels true to the franchise."
Oh ok, sorry. However with the streamlining of PC and Console development and the massive resources poured into these major "crossgen" games, they're in position to take more advantage of next gen features compared to previous generations.
Im really bummed with this halo news. I hoped infinite was going to be special but now it just sounds like another undercooked halo game rushed to meet a deadline like halo 5 was
If the rumor is true it means the opposite. If it was just being rushed it probably would have already released, but them being given lots of time and being allowed to reboot development shows they want to get it right.
No need to be bummed about anything. The only thing that will matter is the final product.
This is my takeaway as well. It shows Microsoft is willing to give the TLC needed to deliver something worthy of the Halo name. Keep ya hopes up.
Sorry, the 343 info you heard wasn't true? Is there some semblance of truth there though?
yeah, but if it was rebooted in 2018 that means they only had two years or leas to work on the rebooted game
A reboot doesn't mean that all previous work was tossed out.
Rebooting development can mean anything considering how much time and money was spent on developing the engine. I doubt any voice/mocap was that far in advance
Guys, looks like the info isn't true. Nothing to see here I guess?
They rebooted development in 2018, how are 2 years enough for a game this big
A reboot doesn't mean the entirety of previous work is automatically adandoned or disused. I'm sure many of the assets, tools, models, levels, design work etc prior to the reboot, will still make its way into the final game, even if in an adapted fashion.
Look above lol, doesn't look like that info is true at all.
it took bungie something like 8 months to make Halo
it was a third person shooter when MS bought them...
on top of that, my spidey sense tells me this is false.
Wouldn't be the first time something like this has happened. Rebooting doesn't necessarily mean that threw everything away and started from scratch. Also we don't know when in 2018 the supposed reboot happened, it could have been early in the year giving it closer to 3 years.
Halo 1 and 2 rebooted development a year before release and those are the most loved games in the series for many.
It looks like that's not true, and even if it was we don't know what reboot means or what the current situation is.
I think Halo 1 was more like 9 months, not that that is a big difference.
Also Halo 2 in December 2003 was basically a CE mod in terms of gameplay and weapon functionality.
They've had 5 years to work on Infinite. I'm not worried. Itll actually be the most ambitious Halo title yet by far.
I said the same thing a couple of weeks ago. S is typically a mid Gen refresh with a speed bump. I wouldn't be surprised to see Series D or E.Ill be surprised if its not Series S.
At most Series E, Xbox has used E before but S is just a much nicer Series brand imo
What a fucked up thing that would be if Sony just asked for exclusivity. lol wtf.
Besides, I don't think there's any reason to think Capcom isn't working closely with everyone. RE goes with PlayStation. Monster Hunter World was Sony (and yet was the first entry to even COME to Xbox PLUS it came to Game Pass as one of the earliest adopters and has stayed there for years). But all other recent games were mainly tied to other platforms (mostly Switch). Megaman 11 was everywhere. And DMC5 and Dead Rising 4 were both MS. Just saying, I wouldn't be surprised either way - Capcom goes where it makes sense for them.
Sure, but that certainly doesn't mean that games can't blow us away in visual ways. Microsoft Flight Simulator takes advantage of every one of those things - and we've been seeing it for over a year now - STILL INCREDIBLE. Halo and TLOU2 both looks amazing and neither is next gen exclusive. The reality is that we'll see some current gen late-gen games that are significantly better looking than "next gen exclusives". I agree that the industry can't keep leaning on graphics forever, but I also don't think we've actually hit the peak of that yet either.
Oo interesting information. This has been a push for MS for a long time. I hope it works out better than things like UWP and Xamarin. Xbox has built such a cool ecosystem where everything CAN be interoperable, but it doesn't work if devs don't take advantage of it. But it seems like MS is putting the pieces in place to make it happen. Imagine using the same box to seamlessly "port" your game between 2 consoles, PC, and phones. I doubt it's that simple, but if so, that would help explain why Smart Delivery is something MS can talk about so freely (granted, most people care about One -> Series crossbuy, which wouldn't be covered? But eh.)
They probably had a lot of the graphics and moment to moment gameplay. But my guess is that they've made the overall gameplay much larger and involved, which involves probably quite a few risks and gambles. It wouldn't surprise me if that takes SIGNIFICANT effort and dev time to get right, and probably went through many iterations and forms. If anything, I'm not convinced the main beats of the story changed much at all between 2016, 2018, and 2020. (Entirely possible that it has, mind you, but who knows.)
Either way, 2018 was the reveal of the in-engine trailer, so I do think they'd nailed a general feeling and artstyle by then. 2019 was the opening cinematic, so they had probably locked down most if not all of the story by then. Hope they're on track, but always willing to wait for a good game that takes the time to explore its characters and relationships.
Microsoft is likely going to avoid offering both the SeX and the D
No worries. But yeah, I hope that's the case. I'm just imagining the outcry if Valhalla doesn't look like "next-gen" to some, as to me it still looks pretty much like a current gen game judging by the screenshots released, and I wouldn't even expect it to look really that different because of crossgen and Ubisoft. Of course I might be just wrong.
Halo Infinite has very clearly not had a smooth development cycle, regardless of today's info being false. I think 343i can take its lessons from Halo 4 and 5 and MCC and produce a quality product, but I don't blame people for being skeptical.
And this is how rumors get started :p (Or already have started. loll) Maybe re-edit your original post with what you put in, but cross it out and say sorry mistake. Just so we know what WAS there and we can point to it later if it crops up again? Just a thought. Thanks for telling us info
What most important for Microsoft right now is to make sure GameCore works properly. The idea is to allow for games to be easily contained, and therefore fully compatible across the board with Windows 10X, Xbox consoles and xCloud. It's really the evolution of UWP, but a lot better this time.
Me too. In theory it comes out this year and we've hardly seen anything. Very little information
The alternate color editions of the SeX will be peach orange and eggplant purple
Its a next gen launch game. Its always tight to the console launch info in the end.
It just depends what the persons expectations are. Native or better checkerboarded 4k/locked 60fps at ultra graphical details across the board seem very possible for these cross gen games on next gen systems along with a basic or shallow use of ray tracing.
I get it. But it also comes out in this generation and such a big project where there is the greatest investment $ in a videogame ... I think we should know more
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