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Insider: "Xbox Anaconda aims to be the clearly better performing device" compared to PS5
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What leaks state anaconda is going to be more expensive than the ps5? It can be more powerful and same price.
The lower spec box is rumored to be an X+ level machine that's meant to stream games and run apps locally + whatever new hook the machine has. But yeah, internals are not the selling point. It's risky, and it would honestly take one hell of a price to get people to commit to that considering the internet necessary for it to work
Compared tot the size of their businesses? What are you even talking about.
The branding didnt seem to help the vita, ps3 or psp
xbox one had an incredibly poor start. If the xbox next comes out strong next gen should be very interesting
people also forget how poor sony's first party was for the first few years. Microsoft now have a stable of first party developers just as good. Nintendo are on a completely different level.
All we need to know is, it's more advanced!
Seriously though, even a dev working with both kits won't know everything. Specs change. Based on what Sony is doing with PS5, to noticably top it will be in high end desktop PC territory and be very expensive.
To me the only stat you could boost to definitely beat ps5 is RAM. Other than that they won't really know other final spec early. But yeah if Nextbox has 64GB of RAM that's likely more than PS5. PS5 has that crazy SSD though so I'm no sure RAM is as important.
Satya allows Phil to access unlimited chest war for Xbox division
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The branding did help PSP and PS3. PSP was the second most successful handheld brand. Nothing ever came close to the PSP. Only Nintendo handhelds sold better. PS3 sold 90 million at its worst when Xbox at its best sold the same.
No, not in particular, but those kind of comments tend to backfire ...
this. it's one thing having your own studios. it's another thing attempting to wish away or ignore the existence of the already well established studios of your competitors. no matter what lineup of games microsoft comes up with, they'll still be competing with those of 'the other guys' :) ...
Maybe in 5-10 years. The acquisitions are a start, but they are clearly playing the long game. They are certainly not on equal footing right now.
You don't know what smoked means. PS3 certainly didn't and the PSP was a massive success either way.
Which shows
and it also shows how the most powerful doesn't always win lmao. Wii smoked both Xbox and PS3, DS smoked PSP, and 3DS smoked PSvita.
Handheld sales were traditionally Japanese loaded, not global. So when the Japanese audience stopped buying Sony handhelds, they tanked. The PSP sold 80 million largely off the back of Japan.
As for PS3, the brand allowed Sony to overcome a year head start from the 360, 600 dollar price point and countless other pitfalls to finish virtually even with 360, on top of games not running as well on PS3 a lot of the time. The PS3 is one of the biggest showcases for Sony's brand that they were able to come back and beat MS's momentum globally despite being destroyed 2:1 in the US and the UK.
Not relevant to the console business comparison, and Sony as a corp has been highly successful under Kaz Hirai's reform.
I think they are fully behind it and this E3 is when we see the scale
I dont know if they call pull one year ahead also with advanced power
I am sure MS are fully behind it but I swear I hear this like every year
Only Wii smoked everyone. MS came in last at the end in every generation so far. If being out for a year previous and being beaten by a late console with a higher price and less great looking/running third-party games is a plus...meh. Ms always falters near the end of life for their consoles. Sony never has, which keeps people coming back. MS hasn't been close to winning yet. They're selling enough to keep fans, but it doesn't seem to be bringing in more people than it's losing lately. Their new strategy may change things, but that remains to be seen. Talk is cheap.
Yah but the power would have to match the price. Say the PS5 is 100$ more than Lockheart, I can't imagine it being so much more powerful to be noticable difference. I don't expect the if the Anaconda is more powerful than the PS5 unless a publisher/dev really takes advantage of the power difference.
2 Games that noticbly looked better on the X than the Pro this past year were Far Cry 5 and RDR2.
There's other factors involved too, how easy is it to develop for is an example. That's why games like Bayonetta ran awful on the PS3 but ran like gold on the 360, because the PS3 was ass for the development side of things.
Oh yeah but this gen was already a lost cause and PS4 solidified itself as the go to console back in 2013. Next gen will be a fresh start and the launch will most likely dictate how the gen will play out
Don't get me wrong, I still think the PS5 will sell more for that reason, the brand is too strong but having a cheaper console that's still powerful and has a respectable game lineup gives Xbox a chance to at least take back certain regions, the most important being NA.
C'mon let me say what I think...If still ..after a change for x86 architecture and mid gen iteration ..and everyone going for digital library ...BC is a "big thing".... well I don't know what to say...I EXPECT Ms and Sony to have BC or it would be a "shame" for them..not a "big thing"
They have the potential to be better
343, coalition turn 10 and playground, ninja theory, inxile and obsidian are great
The initiative could be amazing
Rare, compulsion and undead labs i'm less sure on but hopefully they turn out great. I also hope microsoft purchases relic
That's what I'm thinking. Guess that's where the cheaper model will come in. Let the mass market buy the cheap console at launch and the enthusiast market buy the premium model. Microsoft has both bases covered on launch day. Now all they need is the games.
Can't wait for e3.
It's a big thing due to the massive growth of digital and services games this and some having their doubts. I agree it 100% should have been expected though, no PS4 BC would have been monumentally stupid.
True, everything about the 360 turned out perfectly for MS in North America and Europe. Amazing first party catalog with some great third party partnerships, Sony completely screwing up so many things with the PS3... combined with the head start. They should try for at least 3-6 month head start if they can.
They'll do just fine one way or another but I wonder if they will ever reach that peak they were at with the 360 from 2006-2010ish. Completely dropped the ball with horrible first party management especially with the focus on the garbage Kinect.
I don't think it's as obvious as some are making it out to be. The reality is that both Sony and Microsoft have certain price points to work with and there's no way around those constraints. If Microsoft isn't worried about price for anaconda then they will most likely have the power advantage but realistically both know $499 is probably the max they could charge and at that point it'll be whose willing to take a bigger loss with each console sold. They'll most likely end up being very close in power even if Sony decides to go the $399 route which would probably give a tflop or two power advantage to Microsoft.
Isnt PS5 already at 500$ if based on revealed components so far? If MS aim to be better then it has to be 599$
edit: im dumb. my reading skill sucks
PS3 was the best selling hd console of that gen and sold more than the 360 in less time.
The leaks that say anaconda is going to be a "premium" console at the opposite end of the spectrum compared to lockhart. I fully expect anaconda to cost about $100 more than the ps5. It'll be marketed towards core gamers who are willing to pay more for extra power.
i don't think having the "most powerful console" means all that much these days, in context, because
A) Most powerful = most expensive. it's power that's passed along at a premium. it's a business strategy, and we don't know if it's a good one yet because there's a lot we still don't know about the next-gen consoles. if MS also has a budget SKU, and is less powerful than PS5, technically they also have "the least powerful console." these titles they're trying to own come with caveats, and imo, having one SKU that delivers a true next-gen upgrade at reasonable price is a much more sound strategy.
B) with mid-cycle refreshes, the initial dick measuring becomes less and less important, especially when it's apples and oranges comparisons. these devices aren't locked for 5-6 years anymore - having the most powerful option at launch doesn't guarantee they always have the most powerful option 2-3 years in
C) if PS5 has some cerny-sauce in proprietary SSD tech that Xbox isn't going to have, like say M.2 SSD speeds vs SATA SSD speeds. PS5 can still have less GPU/CPU power and still be more impressive in many ways
A) Most powerful = most expensive. it's power that's passed along at a premium. it's a business strategy, and we don't know if it's a good one yet because there's a lot we still don't know about the next-gen consoles. if MS also has a budget SKU, and is less powerful than PS5, technically they also have "the least powerful console." these titles they're trying to own come with caveats, and imo, having one SKU that delivers a true next-gen upgrade at reasonable price is a much more sound strategy.
B) with mid-cycle refreshes, the initial dick measuring becomes less and less important, especially when it's apples and oranges comparisons. these devices aren't locked for 5-6 years anymore - having the most powerful option at launch doesn't guarantee they always have the most powerful option 2-3 years in
C) if PS5 has some cerny-sauce in proprietary SSD tech that Xbox isn't going to have, like say M.2 SSD speeds vs SATA SSD speeds. PS5 can still have less GPU/CPU power and still be more impressive in many ways
If sony were smart rebrand PS4 pro as PS5 light. Cheapo budget for cheap as fuck people.
These people would be so cheap they wouldnt care if it plays worse.
Just make it 199 in 3 years and be done with it lol.
You're talking about post spec leak discussion, prior to the leaks nearly all of the rumours hinted at the Xbox One being more powerful.
Hell, some of the Insiders even made it seem like the Xbox One would have some sort of secret sauce to bridge the power gap even after the specs were known or rumoured via leaks.
I don't have specific links off hand, because it was donkeys ago, but I followed it all closely and would often respond to the Insiders myself, hence remember the discussions being had.
Here's a few snippets that sort of highlight or infer as much, found from a quick googling. Though these aren't the specific posts where these Insiders spoke about how the Insider murmors were of the 'Nextbox' being more powerful.
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Just curious how do you know it's not helping?
I mean if one were to solely look at from a "who is selling more" perspective I could see that statement but in reality there is more To it than that
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