Notice the use of the conjunction "or" in my post and notice the lack of the conjunction "and".Wtf is this? Wasteland 3 won GOTY PC awards, Obsidian made the best Fallout game ever, Ninja Theory made Hellblade, which again won awards (hey I loved Heavenly sword too...), PG has been pumping out 90+ racing games for years now. State of Decay was a smash hit last gen with millions of copies sold.
If you aren't impressed with the studios they acquired I'm not sure you ever had any intent to be fair on this point.
Microsoft didn't invest in first party when the Xbox One was released. It's partially responsible for the drought of games they have now.
Bigger specs didn't help Sony much at the start of this gen. Graphically most games were the same to the naked eye to most casuals. You could argue a few games had framerate issues or were lower resolution but casuals couldn't tell a difference.
Well said.Wtf is this? Wasteland 3 won GOTY PC awards, Obsidian made the best Fallout game ever, Ninja Theory made Hellblade, which again won awards (hey I loved Heavenly sword too...), PG has been pumping out 90+ racing games for years now. State of Decay was a smash hit last gen with millions of copies sold.
If you aren't impressed with the studios they acquired I'm not sure you ever had any intent to be fair on this point.
Lol. Next gen is definitely going to be interesting.
MS HQ meeting : ok good we got the Hardware , now where are the games ?!
*everyone gets up and leave quietly*
Bigger specs didn't help Sony much at the start of this gen. Graphically most games were the same to the naked eye to most casuals. You could argue a few games had framerate issues or were lower resolution but casuals couldn't tell a difference.
Yeah MS has some work to do for me tooThis is where i'm at with this whole debate. Power means jack shit if there isn't a solid reason to utilize it. I say this as I sit on my couch and stare at my X1X sitting next to my Pro. Also I have played every 1st party game and actually defended the likes of Sea of Thieves (me and my wife love it) and even State of Decay 2 to an extent (game is shitty, deserves more love from Microsoft).
But Microsoft really needs to hit A LOT of homeruns for me to be excited about much of anything concerning Xbox. I still very much look forward to Geras 5 (one of my favorite franchises ever) and Forza is fun for what it is, but I want something NEW from Microsoft, similar to how Sony takes risk and allows their development teams to experiment. It's risky but damn Microsoft needs to be bold next gen and make drastic changes.
Imagine if the next Xbox released this year and was more powerful than the ps5. MS gotta know that a huge advantage the 360 had was releasing a full year a head of the PS3 and having a 10 million install base before it even launched.
My personal opinion is that MS can't compete in a direct battle. They either gotta release early or buy off major 3rd party games at the start. Doing both would be a guranteed win
Confusing post they doubled the amount of studios they have in the last year and will be adding more at e3. I dont think games will be the problem going forwardMS HQ meeting : ok good we got the Hardware , now where are the games ?!
*everyone gets up and leave quietly*
Then Panay talking the leadership of the hw team came and you got the s and the x ...Which console are you talking about?! One x came a year after with $100 more price than PS4pro. if you wanna compare both companies in terms of R&D enginieering ability you've to compare them in the fair/same situation which is PS4 and XB1 situation for sure. They both came in the same time frame and PS4 was significantly more powerfull, smaller without PB and One hundred dollars cheaper! This is what i'm talking about!
Then Panay talking the leadership of the hw team came and you got the s and the x ...
The s .....I'm talking also about the s look how that console is builtYou got the XBX a year later and with +100€ price increase. You won't be getting a more powerful system with a more expensive cooling solution at the same date and price as the competition.
The s .....I'm talking also about the s look how that console is built
I'm sure the 13 Xbox Studios stood up and showed the projects they are working on.MS HQ meeting : ok good we got the Hardware , now where are the games ?!
*everyone gets up and leave quietly*
You got the XBX a year later and with +100€ price increase. You won't be getting a more powerful system with a more expensive cooling solution at the same date and price as the competition.
Notice the use of the conjunction "or" in my post and notice the lack of the conjunction "and".
Plus if you want to be serious only Compulsion, Ninja Theory, and Obsidian are actual acquisitions. The rest were defacto first party already.
We have no way of knowing if they can or can't. It's possible they could, especially based on some of the stuff that is getting posted recently in other threads with regards to what the solutions for the Anaconda and Lockhart are.
How exactly could they make a more powerful system with XBX-like cooling, and sell it at the same price and date as a less powerful competitor with a cheaper cooling solution? The year between the Pro and XBX, and the 100€ price difference made that possible. The cost would be even greater, if they tried to replicate that for a simultaneous launch. Even if it was possible to reach such a power gap on the same date, and stay within the console wattage limits.
Microsoft, unlike Sony, actually has money they can burn to beat down the competition. They have the pockets to release a system at a loss and be fine with it. It's just that last gen they thought they'd get away with an all-in-one box no one asked for.
I personally have no problem paying $600 plus for the most powerful system next gen.
Microsoft, unlike Sony, actually has money they can burn to beat down the competition. They have the pockets to release a system at a loss and be fine with it.
Microsoft, unlike Sony, actually has money they can burn to beat down the competition. They have the pockets to release a system at a loss and be fine with it. It's just that last gen they thought they'd get away with an all-in-one box no one asked for.
I personally have no problem paying $600 plus for the most powerful system next gen.
Lol
lol, Sony is just as capable of selling the PS5 at a loss if they choose to. The PS4 was sold at a roughly $60 loss when the company as a whole wasn't doing too hot, and these days they're pulling in record profits.
Also, I have yet to see any evidence that Xbox has unlimited access to Microsoft's infinite warchest. There have to be limits on what they can spend and how much they can lose before shareholders start taking notice.
Its the same tired old excuse from diehard MS fans that have no basis in reality.lol, Sony is just as capable of selling the PS5 at a loss if they choose to. The PS4 was sold at a roughly $60 loss when the company as a whole wasn't doing too hot, and these days they're pulling in record profits.
Also, I have yet to see any evidence that Xbox has unlimited access to Microsoft's infinite warchest. There have to be limits on what they can spend and how much they can lose before shareholders start taking notice.
While Sony can take a loss, the PlayStation brand and all the stuff involved with it are /is Sony's most profitable division. Them taking a loss on the PS5 would be very hard for Sony as a whole to do. While they can do it, it would be a big strain on Sony as whole to take a loss on each PS5 sold. MS on the other hand has a big warchest and they have other divisions that are very profitable which would allow them an easier way to take a loss on each Next Xbox. Just looking at each company, it is MS that is financially in a better position. Will this all translate into one or both taking a loss, who really knows, but just looking at the numbers, MS is better positioned to do it and not take as much of a hit on the company as a whole.
I don't think Xbox Anaconda will be priced the same as PS5. I'm expecting it to cost more. And Lockheart less.How exactly could they make a more powerful system with XBX-like cooling, and sell it at the same price and date as a less powerful competitor with a cheaper cooling solution? The year between the Pro and XBX, and the 100€ price difference made that possible. The cost would be even greater, if they tried to replicate that for a simultaneous launch. Even if it was possible to reach such a power gap on the same date, and stay within the console wattage limits.
What? No they weren't, no more than Insomniac is for Sony. 100% independent.Plus if you want to be serious only Compulsion, Ninja Theory, and Obsidian are actual acquisitions. The rest were defacto first party already.
While Sony can take a loss, the PlayStation brand and all the stuff involved with it are /is Sony's most profitable division. Them taking a loss on the PS5 would be very hard for Sony as a whole to do. While they can do it, it would be a big strain on Sony as whole to take a loss on each PS5 sold. MS on the other hand has a big warchest and they have other divisions that are very profitable which would allow them an easier way to take a loss on each Next Xbox. Just looking at each company, it is MS that is financially in a better position. Will this all translate into one or both taking a loss, who really knows, but just looking at the numbers, MS is better positioned to do it and not take as much of a hit on the company as a whole.
Lol, how can a post be this wrong?None of the studios they acquired are particularly impressive or successful or won't have a first party game ready for years.
Their best acquisition, Obsidian, is still putting out a third party game first.
Aren't we long past the days of companies selling hardware at a loss?
Aren't we long past the days of companies selling hardware at a loss?
Aren't we long past the days of companies selling hardware at a loss?
I don't think Xbox Anaconda will be priced the same as PS5. I'm expecting it to cost more. And Lockheart less.
Aren't we long past the days of companies selling hardware at a loss?
Then it'll cost more than 499I don't think Xbox Anaconda will be priced the same as PS5. I'm expecting it to cost more. And Lockheart less.
Microsoft, unlike Sony, actually has money they can burn to beat down the competition. They have the pockets to release a system at a loss and be fine with it. It's just that last gen they thought they'd get away with an all-in-one box no one asked for.
I personally have no problem paying $600 plus for the most powerful system next gen.
If MS is at all serious about an elite sku, don't make it a penny less than $699. Put actual components in there worthy of that price tag & "elite status." Your diehards will save up for it & buy it eventually or get the cheaper $299 sku available at launch. But I gotta say, I really don't want them to drop the console baseline too much again next gen. Make the base sku at least decent & not total shite because I want better quality 3rd party games next gen, thanks.I don't think Xbox Anaconda will be priced the same as PS5. I'm expecting it to cost more. And Lockheart less.