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Into the Breach |OT| FTL: Fighting Tactical Leviathans
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Judoka, Blitzkrieg, and Frozen Primes all together is a ton of fun to get that '3 of one class' medal. The Judoka's armored and the Frozen Prime can pop a shield any time you want, so they both make great Lightning Whip chain pieces. I went with the repair-push pilot on the Judoka to give him some extra utility (plus he's repairing a lot from Lightning Chain/blocking anyway), but I like it with the pilot that lets you move through enemies too. The one that gets a move after an attack is always great with Lightning Whip also. It can get dicey if you don't get some additional mobility or range before moving onto the second island, but with so many options the odds are in your favor.
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There's a secret squad for all the coins?
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I'm a huge FTL fan and I am having a wonderful time with Into the Breach. I actually had no idea it was releasing anytime soon so it was quite a pleasant surprise. I'm still just on my first run (on the third island) but I've already had some thrilling turns. The only way I could get an acid spitter out of range of a town was to use my artillery guy to simultaneously push another enemy and my biped mech, giving my biped just enough movement to allow my biped and tank to surround the acid spitter and then consecutively knock him against each of my allies, killing the spitter and leaving my mechs at 1HP each, winning me the map.
This is one of those games that puts a stupid grin on your face. I can tell I'm gonna sink a lot of time into this game. And I am super happy to hear that the other mech teams play very differently, like FTL.
This is one of those games that puts a stupid grin on your face. I can tell I'm gonna sink a lot of time into this game. And I am super happy to hear that the other mech teams play very differently, like FTL.
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Could try this https://www.reddit.com/r/IntoTheBre...ve_successfully_installed_into_the_breach_on/
YMMV I guess, but people have got it working.
Fun fact: freezing an airborne mech above a tile that's going to turn into a chasm will kill the mech. Dunno if that applies to airborne units over chasms, but I'd assume so.
oh nice didn't notice this was out
guess my time over the next couple months is gonna be dominated by mech stuff between this and battletech
guess my time over the next couple months is gonna be dominated by mech stuff between this and battletech
Completed with OG riftwalkers for the first time today.
It's a really difficult game, but playing more and learning the layers of gameplay does help immensely.
In some ways it's a deeper game than FTL, although it isn't as creative in gameplay. It's an 8x8 map with 3 agents (sometimes with NPC) and it's very compact. Every single decision has to be weighed across multiple layers of consideration from positioning, order of attack, environmental effects and also learning to make compromises with mech health, power grid and also non-star secondary objectives.
I wouldn't play it many times if it were just the rift walker team, so seeing all those new mech teams lined up is really intriguing. Will keep playing over the next few months or years.
10/10 and great value for money
It's a really difficult game, but playing more and learning the layers of gameplay does help immensely.
In some ways it's a deeper game than FTL, although it isn't as creative in gameplay. It's an 8x8 map with 3 agents (sometimes with NPC) and it's very compact. Every single decision has to be weighed across multiple layers of consideration from positioning, order of attack, environmental effects and also learning to make compromises with mech health, power grid and also non-star secondary objectives.
I wouldn't play it many times if it were just the rift walker team, so seeing all those new mech teams lined up is really intriguing. Will keep playing over the next few months or years.
10/10 and great value for money
Oh really, I thought those described randomly generated dungeon crawlers like Spelunky or Darkest Dungeon.
I agree so far, though I think ItB forces a different sort of creativity. FTL, while difficult, became a very "zen" experience for me. I could just totally zone out and play for hours. So far, this game almost feels like it's working a different part of my brain. There's no second-by-second micromanagement, and changes to your team and loadout come slower and feel more precious.
I can't get over how good this game is.
Has anyone played Fidel: Dungeon Rescue? ItB reminds me of Fidel in some ways, mainly in the smart visual presentation of all the elements and the economy of movement.
Edit: Damn, got a game over on my first run! Normal, halfway through the fourth island. Not too bad for my first game, maybe.
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My only complaint is that upgrades or improvements to a team don't seem commensurate with your progress. I cleared two islands nearly perfectly and had barely upgraded my team a few times. The third island wrecked us. That was due to my poor choices, but I still feel like upgrades are too expensive generally. "Two reactor cores for a new weapon?" Uh yeah, thanks I still have two health on my tank.
Even if they had to increase the difficulty overall, I rather they lower the requirements so I can play around with a few upgrades every attempt. It would just increase the variety on each try.
Even if they had to increase the difficulty overall, I rather they lower the requirements so I can play around with a few upgrades every attempt. It would just increase the variety on each try.
Yeah, Fidel is fantastic and definitely came to mind as I was playing. The way you search for optimal solutions and set up combos feels surprisingly familiar.
Same for me. smacked the first two islands and then got killed really hard on the frozen island.
Then, I tried the two new squads I've onlocked and I can't seem to get a grip on them at all.
Then, I tried the two new squads I've onlocked and I can't seem to get a grip on them at all.
When they're dead, they're dead. You can only choose one among the living pilots for the next run.
Me too, smoke with damage is incredible, stopping an attack with smoke seems easier than pushing an attack away. Once I started taking advantage of the rocket mech's exaust things went much better.
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Just FYI, I'm playing the game via Wine right now and it's pretty much working perfectly fine.
Awesome! Good to know.
I stopped using Wine, though, because I got paranoid at some point. It would crash from time to time and so I didn't install it when I did a clean install a few weeks ago.
Well, dang. I guess I'll just wait for a better pilot, then.
Don't remember the name but the "Ignore webbing and smoke" pilot is clutch if you play Rusting Hulks
game's really good and fun.
I think I got 4 or 5 victories now and unlocked most squads. I tried going for the final mission after 2, 3 and 4 islands completed but I was kind of disappointed on that front,
I guess they could add something with an expansion later on
I think I got 4 or 5 victories now and unlocked most squads. I tried going for the final mission after 2, 3 and 4 islands completed but I was kind of disappointed on that front,
whether you clear 2 or 4 islands nothing changes besides difficulty and it lacks a proper final boss like FTL had, they just recycle the same enemies you fought before.
The main things I consider are if I can create choke points and giving any unit that has a volley type shot plenty of space to move.
Eventually you have to take enemy position into account. It's pretty annoying when you have two or even three units locked down by a web, or being forced to deal with a those timed bombs in a way that it damages buildings when you take it out.
Arty in the back that gives it the best lines of sigh, especially when it you factor in how it's shells displace units. Does it only knock back? Does it damage one square, then push out the other four units next to it?
Same sort of applies to the science guys. Push or pull.
All apply to level layout too when there's water, acid tiles, chasms, etc. There are times when you can clear the board because they'll line up in easy kill spots, or right along a broken dam.
Don't want all your guys to spawn next to each other, and realize you don't move far enough if an enemy is unreachable in turn 1.
Hmm, I don't have experience with all the squads but my golden rule is: always be aware of the enemy movement range. Nothing worse than starting a turn webbed without options of freeing yourself or not having a unit capable of dealing with an enemy that has strayed too far. Once you place your units, you can hover over and see their movement range to see if you are happy with it.
From there, it depends on your tools and enemy variety. Artillery in the back or sides where they get a good lane to cover your objectives (they are your rooks in the board), science and utility types towards the center of the board, or where they can best use environmental tiles like chasms and water, high HP or punchy types towards the front either to block or bait attacks. Against enemies like tunnelers I find better to cluster up and try not to leave units or buildings where I can't reach them with direct damage. The spiky beetles that create mountains are a pain if allowed to immediately isolate themselves in front of a building so I take special care against them too.
I know it sounds wishy washy, but every map and every combination will demand a different approach, and even then, it only takes one Vek doing something unpredictable to make it all go wrong. I feel there is only much you can do to get a good start. Just avoid putting yourself in a position where you can be pinned down and limit your options (which boil down to move + attack), like starting inside a water tile. And even then, sometimes that might be the right call.
Beat it with the smoke bros. It scratches that FTL itch of trying to hunt for synergies in your equipment, and I basically built my team around dropping smoke on everything all the time, which did 2 damage per turn in addition to disabling attacks. It's really remarkable how well balanced it is. So many turns that I spent minutes puzzling through for the perfect solution that would prevent any successful attacks on civilians or my soldiers. This is a good one.
Finally completed 4 island hard with every squad. Here's my rough impressions on the order of their power:
Frozen Titans
Rusting Hulks
Rift Walkers
Hazardous Mechs
Flame Behemoths
Blitzkrieg
gap because I hate these squads
Zenith Guard
Steel Judoka
I'm really only confident about the top 3, and the rest could use more playthroughs, but the time it took me to beat the game with Judoka or Zenith was easily about 5x that of the top 3.
Other tidbits: some of my best performing weapons are wind propeller, summon (light/freeze) tanks, raining death volley, missile barrage, and then to a lesser extent, melee rocket punch and ranged defense strike. The pilots I tend to value the most are Archimedes (move again for 1core), Silica (attack again for 2 if haven't moved, lategame at least), Prospero (flying for 1 core), Camila Vera (anti-webbing) and Abe (armored)
Frozen Titans
Rusting Hulks
Rift Walkers
Hazardous Mechs
Flame Behemoths
Blitzkrieg
gap because I hate these squads
Zenith Guard
Steel Judoka
I'm really only confident about the top 3, and the rest could use more playthroughs, but the time it took me to beat the game with Judoka or Zenith was easily about 5x that of the top 3.
Other tidbits: some of my best performing weapons are wind propeller, summon (light/freeze) tanks, raining death volley, missile barrage, and then to a lesser extent, melee rocket punch and ranged defense strike. The pilots I tend to value the most are Archimedes (move again for 1core), Silica (attack again for 2 if haven't moved, lategame at least), Prospero (flying for 1 core), Camila Vera (anti-webbing) and Abe (armored)
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Look in your saved game folder. The game always makes a backup save as long as you haven't overwritten it. It's also possible you're using the wrong profile or something, but it could be related to some of the early version save problems they mentioned.
There's a pilot that attacks twice? O_o
For the record there's at least two other robot pilots. :)
The game has two types of pilots, which for nomenclature's purpose I'll call unique and generic. Unique pilots have a, well, unique skill from the start, in addition to the generic abilities like health +2, reactor +1, etc that both types of pilots unlock as they level up.
The pilot select screen has all the unique pilots you've unlocked; you pick one, and the other two mecha get generic pilots. I believe every pilot you get during the game (from pods and perfect islands) are unique, and you also unlock them when you get them.
Normally all pilots start at level 1, but here's where the "reuse pilot" option from the end of a run comes in; it allows you to save one pilot to the "last pilot" slot, which will then start the game with the same level, experience and skills that he/she had. You can actually save a generic pilot this way, so you'd start the next run with three unique pilots; needless to say, this is quite suboptimal.
If you're using the "last pilot" option, sure. If you're selecting a new pilot, once you unlock them you can use them anytime, no matter if they died the previous run.
Spelunky is a pure roguelite, you do start from the beginning every time. Darkest Dungeon has roguish dungeons, but has a lot more permanence.
Has anyone encountered a unique pilot in one timeline that you've already reused from the previous/picked at the beginning? In other words, had a pilot meet themselves? I thought of this when I was opening a time pod and Bethany Jones wondered if she'd meet herself inside.
I would assume the game tries to avoid that for variety's sake, even if there's no plot reason why they wouldn't. :) I believe I've always got pilots I didn't have, anyway, but obviously that won't be possible anymore once I unlock them all.
Also PSA: I guess it's obvious, but fire instantly melts ice tiles. I mean the ground ones that you hit twice and they turn into water: when you set them on fire, they melt into water instantly, without waiting for the "fire damage" phase.
Boy, the Frozen Titans require some time to get into.
Still no idea how I can effectively use the Cryo Launcher
I don't think I'll ever get used to some of the Squads but they are weird enough that I want to wait for a month and then type "Into the Breach Zenith Guard Hard" into Youtube and watch somebody ace it.
Still no idea how I can effectively use the Cryo Launcher
I don't think I'll ever get used to some of the Squads but they are weird enough that I want to wait for a month and then type "Into the Breach Zenith Guard Hard" into Youtube and watch somebody ace it.
Yeah, this happened to me. But I was on the last turn of the final mission, so all good.
PSA 2: The train doesn't catch fire, feel free to set all tiles in its path on flames.
PSA 3: Mountains can be set on fire, although whether this does anything except to count for achievements, remains to be seen (perhaps the fire remains if the mountain is destroyed).
PSA 3: Mountains can be set on fire, although whether this does anything except to count for achievements, remains to be seen (perhaps the fire remains if the mountain is destroyed).
Yeah, that's what I figured since the game does prioritize finding pilots you haven't unlocked. Though I think it would be a fun little scene to get now and then once you've unlocked all the pilots.
Once you obtain a pilot, it removes its "class" from the available pool. It would probably be trivial for a modder to add this, but the bottleneck would be additional lines of dialogue and tooltips and such.