Introducing the $750 plastic bag from Celine (Paris)
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that bag is fucking ugly and one of the reasons why celine is an unknown "luxury fashion brand" in its tier
On what planet is Céline an unknown brand “in its tier”? What does that even mean?
celine is a luxury fashion house but nowhere on earth is it as heavily respected or sought after in comparison to louis vuitton, balenciaga, gucci, burberry, hermes, etc.
I must be a low brow ignoramus because from where I stand, this looks like a really fucking stupid idea for really fucking stupid people who don’t care about money.
luxury fashion houses' ready-to-wear lines are typically sustainable and lowkey in ways that fast fashion brands aren't, but celine is clearly going for the fast fashion crowd but without its price tag. even typically bold houses like moschino are dialing and refining their designs away from the fast fashion connotation
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Please. Phoebe Philo absolutely made Céline relevant not only in prête-a-porter, but in accessory design as well. There’s a reason every designer under the sun has copied her loose fitting, “London” colored garments over the last several years.
Furthermore, you couldn’t be more off base in your comparisons. Céline not having the historicity LV or Gucci has doesn’t make them “unknown”; Céline is a crown jewel at LVMH and pulls almost a billion annually. Does that sound unknown to you? Let’s not even get into the Balenciaga comparison, which had absolutely no public mind share until the Moto bag. Judging houses by this metric is really silly.
"Fucking weird'? Oh. Okay. I see. You think this has nothing to do with you. You go to your closet and you select... I don't know... that lumpy blue sweater, for instance because you're trying to tell the world that you take yourself too seriously to care about what you put on your back. But what you don't know is that that sweater is not just blue, it's not turquoise. It's not lapis. It's actually cerulean. And you're also blithely unaware of the fact that in 2002, Oscar de la Renta did a collection of cerulean gowns. And then I think it was Yves Saint Laurent... wasn't it who showed cerulean military jackets? And then cerulean quickly showed up in the collections of eight different designers. And then it, uh, filtered down through the department stores and then trickled on down into some tragic Casual Corner where you, no doubt, fished it out of some clearance bin. However, that blue represents millions of dollars and countless jobs and it's sort of comical how you think that you've made a choice that exempts you from the fashion industry when, in fact, you're wearing the sweater that was selected for you by the people in this room from a pile of things you consider fucking weird.
accessory design and ready-to-wear are the same thing so your putting them in different categories is something i find odd but i wont be overly pedantic here
i need the receipts on celine being a "crown jewel" at LVMH when dior, marc jacobs, and givency specialize in the same categories that celine does
LVMH doesn’t release breakdowns, but analysts estimate the brand to have made 950m last year, which puts it under Dior and and toe to toe with Marc Jacobs (a house that is actually in the red) and above Givenchy. Do you think it’s a coincidence that Arnault sought out someone as renowned as Hedi Slimane to take over the entire House? It’s obviously a brand that is incredibly important to them.
oh girl i don't put much clout into putting revered or up-and-comings being leads in a house when ms donatella versace absolutely ran versace into the ground this past decade with their outrageously tacky designs and lack of quality output
high fashion in general is going to the reds and it's sad because fast fashion is both not sustainable and lowers the industry as a whole down. as a whole though, i dont see celiné advancing very much because i dont see their runways getting much coverage in comparison to the houses above but we'll see
My love, don’t be dense. Hedi Slimane goes beyond being revered. He catapulted YSL into the billion dollar annual revenue range and ushered in the current expanding wardrobebased collections Gucci is doing right now. Slimane was hired to take Céline even further.
but why are we speculating about silmane taking celine into the upper echelon when he's a recent hire and the bag in the op was made under his discretion; yves saint laurent has been a pretty prolific brand prior to silmane as well
do you know who's leading the pack here nowadays?
is it still supreme or did stone island/a bathing ape/fear of god/etc. take over
edit: asking because i just bought a duffle bag from supreme this morning because i liked the lowkeyness of it compared to prior bags
Sweetness, Hedi Slimane is not designing anything for current Céline. They have their own design team to handle both clothing and accessories during the transitionary period between Philo to him. Slimane is expected to make Céline even more prolific because his job is literally to expand the brand. He’s making both menswear and fragrance lines. He’s pretty much as proven as a fashion designer can be.
okay... idk why a font is trying to change the discourse into stanning silmane when the topic at hand is about celine, as a house, who remains an unknown in mindshare. their pioneering of certain styles didn’t ricochet the house into something like a “crowl jewel” as you said because, to many, their designs were appropriated and thus popularized by the bigger houses
Bape's made a big comeback. Just opened a new store in LA, etc etc. Not really my thing but they've definitely returned to relevancy.
