This need to be repeated. Or we will just end up with antivaxxers and "cancer cure exist they just don't put it out" people running the show.
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Inventor of Oxycontin knew how addictive it was; Pharma execs didn't care
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This need to be repeated. Or we will just end up with antivaxxers and "cancer cure exist they just don't put it out" people running the show.
Thank you for clarifying. I confess I don't know much about it.
The opioid crisis is likely driven entirely by the pharmaceutical industry and any solution that doesn't involve bringing these execs to heel is no solution at all. Republicans are a lost cause. The moral test of Dems will be whether they can reject their Pharma donors and lobbyists.
LOL at the Adderall=Meth descriptions. Some of us actually need it and we don't need people like you stigmatizing out treatment further.
This. These fucking pieces of shit should rot in prison for the rest of their lives.
Bruh it's meth and btw I got a prescription for it myself and used to take it regularly for adhd. Stuff is basically meth molecules.
yeah this is pretty old. I remember hearing this like two years ago.
even crazier IIRC was that it was originally marketed to hospitals BECAUSE of its "low levels of addictiveness". WHICH they KNEW was a lie.
fucking crazy. The FDA fucking failed on this at every point. and that people aren't in prison over it is insane. we'll throw addicts in prison, but not people who are knowingly creating and marketing legally addictive drugs under false pretense.
even crazier IIRC was that it was originally marketed to hospitals BECAUSE of its "low levels of addictiveness". WHICH they KNEW was a lie.
fucking crazy. The FDA fucking failed on this at every point. and that people aren't in prison over it is insane. we'll throw addicts in prison, but not people who are knowingly creating and marketing legally addictive drugs under false pretense.
Of course they didn't care, I'm sure they liked how addictive it was. They can use it to profit off people's addictions. Total scum.
I know that Rep. Elijah Cummings wants to launch an investigation into Big Pharma in terms of drug pricing. Would be great if he could expand the investigation.
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you might be thinking of a similar case, but this is new - the material comes from recently unredacted documents in a lawsuit MA filed against Perdue in June. as others have said, this is probably pretty standard banter for pharma execs, but it's still kinda shocking to me how flippant these guys talk about a drug that would make a major contribution to a nationwide health crisis. just a callous disregard for anything but the maximum possible profits while being presented with and willfully ignoring the detrimental effects of the product they're selling.
it was definitely this. I might have been mixing up when I heard it (last year instead of two years).
I am on their medicine and have been for almost 13 years. I remember the first time I was given a prescription, my surgeon made it very clear that it wasn't like the other opioids and that it was impossible to become addicted to the drug. For whatever reason I was incredibly lucky that I don't have a disposition towards addiction. Been on the same dose for the majority of those years. I was also incredibly lucky that my surgeon didn't believe their 12 hour dose claim. Told me every 8 hours with a break through pill at night.
I can't imagine the hell those patients went through that were told to take it every 12 hours. I know for me I barely make it to the 8 hours. The worst part of it all is not the pain that these patients had to endure to make it to the 12 hour time frame but that their doctors didn't listen to them and instead went with the pharma execs marketing materials and just increased the dosage to ensure they were so full of the drug they could make it to the 12 hour interval. Slowly being turned into addicts without any idea and constantly being told it's safe and non-habit forming.
And now because of their carelessness and greed people who are in need of medications have a hard time getting any. Even with my dosage being the same for almost a decade I am still treated by new doctors as a drug addict and need to be tapered off with no cause. The medical community got so stung by what happened they have gone the other way now and everyone that is on them is a possible addict.
I can't imagine the hell those patients went through that were told to take it every 12 hours. I know for me I barely make it to the 8 hours. The worst part of it all is not the pain that these patients had to endure to make it to the 12 hour time frame but that their doctors didn't listen to them and instead went with the pharma execs marketing materials and just increased the dosage to ensure they were so full of the drug they could make it to the 12 hour interval. Slowly being turned into addicts without any idea and constantly being told it's safe and non-habit forming.
And now because of their carelessness and greed people who are in need of medications have a hard time getting any. Even with my dosage being the same for almost a decade I am still treated by new doctors as a drug addict and need to be tapered off with no cause. The medical community got so stung by what happened they have gone the other way now and everyone that is on them is a possible addict.
If you think Adderall is meth you should take a pharmacology class. Turns out what might look to the uninformed to be a small difference, say a single CH3, can cause massive changes in how chemicals work especially with regards to a system as complex as the human body.
Just give me the comfort of knowing you'll never run for public office.
The fuck is this adderall=meth non-sense? If you mean that adderall can be abused, yes that's true, just as many prescription drugs have the potential for abuse. But to compare it to meth is either completely misunderstanding the issue or being disingenuous.
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there was a heavily redacted version that came out at the end of last month, but most of this document was only made public three days ago. unless the Sackler family CC'd you on these email chains, i think you are unfortunately mistaken.
I've done meth several times and it feels just like doing like 180mg of my adderall. I get that there is a difference but it feels the same.
Bet they'd suddenly develop consciences if the crimes they commit as a corporation mean they personally are held accountable.
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i guess at this point nothing is really shocking, but turns out Perdue also wanted in on the opiod addiction treament market too.
Im not anti vax but as someone whos had horrific luck with prescription med side effects it does make me wonder.
So many peoples lives ruined over this shit. These assholes deserve to be rotting in jail. If it was up to me I'd be rounding all them up right now.
Yes because people are prescribed 180mg of Adderall.
LOL of course normal dose of stimulant x9 felt like Crystal Meth crazy pants.
On a side note, these sick fucks need to rot in a prison cell.