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IOS 13: some leaked feature info

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Contemplating buying a new phone (iphone x) but might wait for WWDC and iOS 13 info before deciding on that vs. Android. Not sure exactly what I'm hoping to see but one minor thing would be an expansion of some services. News STILL being available only in 4 countries is a total embarrassment.
 
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Windrunner said:
If I could have a MS Surface Pro-like type cover with an Apple quality trackpad for use on an iPad along with proper file system access then an iPad Pro could replace my Macbook.
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Facts. Shit gets more use than my xps simply due to how portable and quiet it is. But typing on this cardboard keyboard they call a smart cover is not doing the trick. Especially at night w/ no backlit keyboard support.
 
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I still want to see the XR's portrait mode (on the wide lens), to make it over to the XS. hoping iOS 13 rectifies that.

There is no reason that the $1000 phone shouldn't be able to do something that the $750 phone can do unless it's a hardware limitation (eg different physical sizes, so larger battery).
 
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This concept is getting posted some places. Nothing really outrageous or overly interesting though - https://www.behance.net/gallery/80675205/iOS-13-Concept-by-Alvaro-Pabesio

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Hopefully the new email app means better junk mail filtering. My iCloud email, which thankfully I don't use, is the only email of mine that gets constant, obvious spam in the inbox via the default Mail app. I don't even know how, as I've never used that address for anything.

I mean sure, I get spam on Gmail, but it does a good job of filtering it so I never have to see it.
 
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Uno Venova said:
These concepts literally make my experience using iOS worse because I know it will never be this good.
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Not sure about the iPad stuff but the iPhone ones seem pretty safe. They seem based on rumoured features (dark mode, new reminders app, etc.) so I could see this being close to reality.
 
Nihilistic Monk

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If they don't put PiP video on the iPhone I swear to god, I fucking riot...
It's the one Android feature I'm truly jealous of.
 
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Aliens will visit Earth and people will be living on Mars before Apple gives us split screen multitasking on iPhone :-(
 
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I just want dark mode to be actual dark mode meaning black/true dark. It will help with the battery immensely esp with iPhone X and Xs
 
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8ish days or so?

Kind of hoping it looks terrible because I'm feeling priced out of iPhones lately so it would make a switch to android easier lol.
 
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all these concepts look so tacky, not saying everything Apple makes is a hit but these look like cheap knockoffs by some junior designers.
 
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Hope the "dark mode" is predominantly actual black instead of the greys of the concept images (and of Era's dark theme).

If you're making a mode for OLEDs, going with grey defeats the point.
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it doesn't. and going all black causes smearing on scroll. it's also my aesthetic choice but technically we're not there yet.

 
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mescalineeyes said:
it doesn't. and going all black causes smearing on scroll. it's also my aesthetic choice but technically we're not there yet.

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This is a big issue, but it's also not a good idea to use pure black because it's just too contrasty for UI. There's a reason Photoshop and other programs have grey themes, it overwhelms the content. Dark grey themes are much better than pure black.
 
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Dark mode isn't for battery consumption, it's for your eyes at night. While a pure black does I prove battery use, it won't be as effective as you may believe when doing your usual day to day stuff, and will look like ass with it. So hopefully it's a dark grey dark mode, as pure black looks shit, design wise.
 

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I have all my websites and apps permanently in dark mode, so honestly anything is fine with me. The apps that offer dark grey versus pure black I always go pure black and love it
 
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o'dium said:
Dark mode isn't for battery consumption, it's for your eyes at night. While a pure black does I prove battery use, it won't be as effective as you may believe when doing your usual day to day stuff, and will look like ass with it. So hopefully it's a dark grey dark mode, as pure black looks shit, design wise.
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It'll look like the macOS dark theme, which is dark grey.
 
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o'dium said:
Dark mode isn't for battery consumption, it's for your eyes at night. While a pure black does I prove battery use, it won't be as effective as you may believe when doing your usual day to day stuff, and will look like ass with it. So hopefully it's a dark grey dark mode, as pure black looks shit, design wise.
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Both Tweetbot and FB Messenger have gorgeous almost all-black modes.
 

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Yeah pure black is idiotic and just creates smearing on OLED screens. I hope Apple has more sense than that.
 
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Where's all this courage Apple likes to tout when it comes time to work on a new iOS version. I look forward to dark mode but something that should have been there 2 or 3 years ago is hardly enough to excite me.
 
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o'dium said:
Dark mode isn't for battery consumption, it's for your eyes at night. While a pure black does I prove battery use, it won't be as effective as you may believe when doing your usual day to day stuff, and will look like ass with it. So hopefully it's a dark grey dark mode, as pure black looks shit, design wise.
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Seems to be plenty of battery consumption to be won by having it on.

 

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No way it'll be pure black dark mode. Too extreme for most people, looks ugly in a lot of places and doesn't fit with the usual Apple style.

The best features:
- System wide Dark Mode
- True desktop like multitasking on iPad
- email app upgraded to similar to outlook email app
- Siri will open up more to developers for search, media playback, voice calling etc

This should be a nice update. A new UI refresh would have been nice but dark mode will suffice. Lets hope it's not saved for 13.1 or some bs like that.
 
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I hope alongside dark mode, they update the currently "forced" dark mode apps like Books (no way to toggle light mode if you're in too dim of an area), Stocks, Clock, etc.

My astigmatism makes light-on-dark migraine triggering, since it creates halo effects around the letters. Haven't been able to use the Books app since the latest refresh (iOS 12 I think?) because of that. x_x
 
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Scheris said:
I hope alongside dark mode, they update the currently "forced" dark mode apps like Books (no way to toggle light mode if you're in too dim of an area), Stocks, Clock, etc.

My astigmatism makes light-on-dark migraine triggering, since it creates halo effects around the letters. Haven't been able to use the Books app since the latest refresh (iOS 12 I think?) because of that. x_x
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Have you tried the screen invert accessibility feature for these apps? Its kinda mind boggling they don't offer light themes for those apps but better than nothing I guess
 
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Vuze said:
Have you tried the screen invert accessibility feature for these apps? Its kinda mind boggling they don't offer light themes for those apps but better than nothing I guess
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Yeah, that works alright enough, but kind of a pain to have to remember to do it each time, since I don't want light apps dark mode'ing themselves.

It's funny with Stocks in particular, since there is a light mode as macOS 10.14 uses it, they just didn't want to enable it on iOS.

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Books has a light mode and you can toggle automatic night mode off, I just checked.
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Are you talking about the app or the book reading view? I know the latter is there (I have it set to be forced light mode), but AFAIK the UI is forced based on the lighting in the room for the actual app/store/non-book sections.

(Unless I missed something completely and there is a toggle for the app part.)
 
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Are you talking about the app or the book reading view? I know the latter is there (I have it set to be forced light mode), but AFAIK the UI is forced based on the lighting in the room for the actual app/store/non-book sections.

(Unless I missed something completely and there is a toggle for the app part.)
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just talking about the reading mode.
 
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Exclusive: Screenshots reveal iOS 13 Dark Mode, new Reminders app, more

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We're less than a week away from WWDC, when Apple is expected to unveil the new versions of all its operating systems, including iOS 13. We've talked about what to expect in detail, with information from sources familiar with the development of Apple's operating systems. Today, we have screenshots from iOS 13, shared exclusively with 9to5Mac, that show some of its new features.

Dark Mode can be enabled in the Settings app or with an option in Control Center, for quick access to the feature. On the Home screen, the only noticeable change is the Dock, which adopts a vibrant dark background instead of the light one. It's possible that Apple will be including new wallpapers that work better in Dark Mode with the new OS.

When looking at an app such as Music in Dark Mode, it's possible to see that Apple is using a true black background, which looks great on an OLED device. The change may also affect battery life since the OLED display doesn't have to use power to light up the black pixels.
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Yep that's iOS alright. Not sure if it's accurate but it claims true black which some people here were discussing. And new reminders app is similar to https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/memento-modern-reminders/id1200227397?mt=8
 
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- email app upgraded to similar to outlook email app

I wish they'd do this with the desktop Apple Mail. I just want to be able to attach jpegs within the header instead of in the body of the email.
 
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I really hope this is finally the year when they finally choose to decouple the built-in apps from the OS, and give the ability to set default apps. Especially if they want to push iPad Pro as a laptop replacement.
 
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